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Tim Cash
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From: Clarksville, TN, U.S.A.
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posted 12-23-2001 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Cash   Click Here to Email Tim Cash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know I am a newby I have been looking at an H-Pipe on EBay and know not whether I have one, or for that matter need one.

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MustangRdr68
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From: Bensalem, PA, USA
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posted 12-23-2001 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MustangRdr68   Click Here to Email MustangRdr68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The H-pipe is what connects the exhaust manifolds to the remaining exhaust tubing. Its in the shape of an H . Hope that helps.

P.S. If im wrong someone please correct me

Mike

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capri man
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posted 12-23-2001 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are exactly right mike. but personally i prefer the X pipe for performance and quality of sound.

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Fastymz
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posted 12-23-2001 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike every one knows that the H-pipe is better. J/K

The X -pipe is said to give better top end and the H- pipe for low end.And if you ask Alex,or SteveW they will both tell you not to do neither.

SCOOP

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wythors
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posted 12-23-2001 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wythors   Click Here to Email wythors     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Cash:
...know not whether I have one, or for that matter need one.

If your '88 has a stock exhaust then yes, you have one. It's the pipe that has the catalytic converters on it. Called an "H" pipe because it has a crossover tube to balance the exhaust. It can be replaced with either a higher flowing cat-equipped pipe or an "off-road" (yeah, right ) pipe without converters.

By the way, welcome aboard soldier.

Dave

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Tim Cash
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posted 12-23-2001 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Cash   Click Here to Email Tim Cash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See, I am learning more each and every day. Airborne! As we like to say.

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capri man
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posted 12-23-2001 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im glad to hear that SCOOP because if i didnt have my X pipe i wouldnt have any high end!

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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv
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posted 12-23-2001 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Mike thats one sweet capri you have.And those are great 60f times.What gears do you run.

SCOOP

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capri man
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posted 12-23-2001 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4.10 t i am going to try to paste something here that will give you a little more info, dont know if it will work or not!

http://www.prestage.com/site/site_display.asp?SiteID=141

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mike r
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Fastymz
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posted 12-23-2001 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike thanks that worked great.
Nice set up have you ever ran the 1/4 in it.It seems like it would a run around a low 13's 1/4.Do you drive it on the street ever.And do have a 8.8 rear with or with mods for those slicks.

SCOOP

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capri man
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posted 12-24-2001 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCOOP, i beleive it or not i run a 7.5 rear end with the spider gears welded up in the carrier. it takes a long time to do it right though. weld alitle, let it cool for a long time then weld a little lrt it cool for a long time and repeat for about 2 days.

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racing is real
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Stewart
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posted 12-24-2001 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
i prefer the X pipe for performance and quality of sound.


Well, just for a little controversy, I have a buddy who installed an X-Pipe on his '91 vert 5.0 5-speed because he loved the way my 5.0 sounded with an H-Pipe. Problem is, his doesn't sound anywhere NEAR as good as mine! There isn't too much difference between his Mustang and mine, either! We both have almost the exact same performance upgrades, as well as the same stock stuff with one minor difference (throttle body size).

So, after he got his X-Pipe and revved it up to 6000 rpms and the sound produced was barely a hollow imitation of the sound produced by my H-pipe and Mustang when I revved it to 6000 rpm's, well, he was a weee bit jealous!

Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way saying ALL H-Pipes are better than X-Pipes! Not at all. Not even close! I'm just saying that my buddy's X doesn't sound nearly as good as my H!

Stewart

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capri man
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posted 12-25-2001 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey stewart, are you sure that you had your hearing aid tuned the same???? hee hee
merry CHRISTmas. mike

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mike r
racing is real
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81 capri-7.56 @88mph 1/8
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-25-2001 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a dyno comparison in a 5.0 magazine that shows a pretty healthy improvement with a x pipe vs an h pipe. It was throughout the rpm range, too.

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Stewart
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posted 12-25-2001 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
hey stewart, are you sure that you had your hearing aid tuned the same???? hee hee
merry CHRISTmas. mike


LOL!

Well, like I said, I sure as heck wasn't implying all H-pipes are better than all X-pipes! Especially because I recently learned a little bit about the physics involved with exhaust gasses and the different effects between the X and H, and how the X is more efficient when properly set up.

I just remember the look on my buddy's face when he realized his didn't sound as good as mine!!

And it was even sweeter because he paid to have someone swap out his pipes. Renee and I swapped out the pipes on the Silver Fox ourselves! (WEG)

Stewart

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The Iceman
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posted 12-26-2001 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Iceman   Click Here to Email The Iceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from what IVE noticed, it seems that on 5.0s, H-Pipes give more of a "roar" where as xpipes give more of a rumbly drone

maybe Im biased with my bros 89 but hey, I like how his Stang sounds with the x

they DO sound different though

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