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Topic: Lowering 60'
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FiveOFastback
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: Bethlehem, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted 03-30-2004 01:51 PM
   
Just the other day my father and I changed the 67'stang over to a 255/50/R16 BFG Drag Radial from a 205/70/R14. Last fall our 60' with the 205's was 2.26. I am hoping that we can lower this into the 1.8's with the new rubber. My question is, on a low budget, how can we get these 60' times into the 1.8's with minor mods, with these drag radials?Modifications Include:
Gt-40 345hp FRPP Crate Motor
T-5 (Cable Clutch)
New 5-leaf springs
SSM Lift Bars
4.11 9" Mini Spool (3.89 trac-lok on street)
Stock Shocks on front and rear
Stock front springs Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
Tj
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Fastymz
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Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-30-2004 02:53 PM
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1740
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 03-30-2004 04:46 PM
I think I'd:1) Look to see where you can remove any more weight out of the car; 2) Change the front shocks to 90/10s; 3) Change the rear shocks to adjustable Ranchos; 4) Sell off the SSM bars and install a pair of Slide-a-Link CE traction bars (Cal-tracs would work better, but aren't as "friendly" on the street); 5) Weld in a pair of subframe connectors; 6) Replace the front springs with 6-cylinder springs. Just my 2 cents,
Ryan 
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FiveOFastback
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: Bethlehem, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted 03-30-2004 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:
I think I'd:1) Look to see where you can remove any more weight out of the car; 2) Change the front shocks to 90/10s; 3) Change the rear shocks to adjustable Ranchos; 4) Sell off the SSM bars and install a pair of Slide-a-Link CE traction bars (Cal-tracs would work better, but aren't as "friendly" on the street); 5) Weld in a pair of subframe connectors; 6) Replace the front springs with 6-cylinder springs. Just my 2 cents,
Ryan
Sounds good but, I would kind of like the car to be street friendly and have some handling characteristics. 6 cyl springs and 90/10 shocks would definatly kill the handling. Maybe those adjustable front shocks with the 50/50 70/30 and 90/10 settings.
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-30-2004 06:07 PM
On my 65 adding adjustable 90/10 shocks and removing the sway bar 'I leave them on 90/10 setting' didn't hurt the handling at all. But both sure made the front end come up higher and a lot more easy. Also the clamped rear leafs and playing with the rear tire pressure until I got full contact from both rear tires.
Lubing the front end, maxing out the front tire pressure. Putting the battery in the truck.All helped a lot too. ------------------
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 7383
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-30-2004 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by FiveOFastback:
Sounds good but, I would kind of like the car to be street friendly and have some handling characteristics. Maybe those adjustable front shocks with the 50/50 70/30 and 90/10 settings.
Sure, You want it all. LOL Back when the '66 had a mild 351w it would spank ZO6 Vettes on the strip. Why? They had more power, ran faster MPH's but were limited by a great handling suspension.  Sure they were/are geared for 160 mph too, but their downfall on the strip was their compromises. Do not compromise, it's much easier that way.  A street/strip car set up for drag racing with only 400+ h.p. will easily defeat a NASCAR stock car on the strip. Fact not fiction, SteveW
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-30-2004 10:25 PM
Good advice Steve
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 7383
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-01-2004 01:01 AM
And,Those adjustable shocks are crap. You have to take them out of the car to adjust them. And when you do it's guess work whether you have them set on 90-10 or 70-30. It's about an hour project to change the setting, not something you would do at the track.  SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 04-01-2004 01:07 AM
Thats why I just leave them at 90-10.------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1164
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-01-2004 01:13 AM
are there any adjustable on the car shocks?and what would you use for a road race stang?
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 14676
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-01-2004 01:21 AM
Dubz the QA1 are easy to adjust on the car but cost a lot more.------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1164
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-01-2004 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Dubz the QA1 are easy to adjust on the car but cost a lot more.
i thought the QA1 were coilover shocks...
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 7383
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-01-2004 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Thats why I just leave them at 90-10.
Me too. SteveW
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 14676
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-01-2004 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by Dubz:
i thought the QA1 were coilover shocks...
They make both coil and non coil over shocks. That have a small dial you turn to the setting you want it set to. ------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1164
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-01-2004 01:48 AM
hmm
now i need to save even more $$.139 each, that's a big BEND OVER
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 14676
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-01-2004 01:51 AM
Yeah the price is shocking
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1164
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-01-2004 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Yeah the price is shocking
that was horrible, but still had me laughing seeing as the summits are a ton less i guess an hour worth or wrenching might be allright if i want to change the setup
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-01-2004 02:01 AM
Dubz the summit shocks are priced right. Just get your car on the road and enjoy it. Then later when you have the money get the better parts. ------------------
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wildfire466
Gearhead Posts: 116
From: Cali
Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 04-01-2004 02:36 AM
Run the tires @ 10 psi. If you can find someone to buy em go for it and switch to MT ET Drag or Street.The Goodrich tires have a stiff sidewall. Good luck getting any info from the Goodrich Drag Radial forum! The MT tires say run inner tubes, this is not nessary so $ for $ MT is better.
Les
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CometGT1974
Gearhead Posts: 306
From: Asheville, NC USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 04-01-2004 12:32 PM
That's nothing, AFCO wants $350 per shock.....and then there are some electronically controlled shocks that you don't even want to know the price of. Pat Musi and alot of the Pro Street guys run the electronic shocks, they adjust automatically "on the fly".[This message has been edited by CometGT1974 (edited 04-01-2004).]
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FiveOFastback
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: Bethlehem, PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted 04-02-2004 01:05 PM
Thanks for the info guys. I think its time for some SUMMIT adjustables!
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1164
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-02-2004 02:23 PM
both my front and rears are 50/50 what difference would i notice on the street with 90/10's on the front?
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-02-2004 02:25 PM
Dubz the 90/10 will allow the front to raise more easy and lower at a slower rate.------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1164
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-02-2004 02:30 PM
allright, so under hard braking it's not gonna slam down and scrape
k good
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-02-2004 02:44 PM
Whats real fun is going over little hills in the road at 70 mph or so ------------------
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