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1974 Gran Torino, 351W
1970 Mustang Grande, 289

Man, we were bad boys. Sometimes I wonder how we survived.

...Since we're confessing...

The scariest thing I ever experienced was one time when that same friend and I were cruising around on this road that has a very long hill that used to bottom out at this green metal bridge that went over a river and what we though was fun was to go down this hill with the speedometer pegged and go through this bridge which seems incredibly narrow at that high a speed then the suspension would bottom out as you hit the hit the hill climbing out of the river basin then you climb this hill until you crested it and at speed you would almost be airborn! What a rush! It was like a rollercoaster ride! This was a good place to take a guy who claimed "He never got scared of anything." You could then introduce them to 'Jelly Knees.'

Anyway, one hot summer day we hit this road, come barreling down the hill, through the bridge, up the hill, over the crest, {still over 100 mph} AND SEE A FARMER ON A TRACTOR WITH A WAGON FULL OF HAY IN THE ROAD GOING ABOUT 5 MPH!!! I had what seems like a millisecond to react and I twitched the wheel over to the other side of the road {luckily there was nobody there!!!} and the left wheels went off the shoulder {big drop} and I manaaged to get it back on the road, it shot across to the other shoulder, {another big drop} and I still managed to get it back on the road and I straighten it out. I looked in the mirror and all I saw was a huge dust cloud and a farmer standing on his tractor waving his fist at me. We went up the road a bit and stopped at a country store because the car started feeling real funny and I found I had a front tire going down. We changed it and later on when I took the tire down there was so much gravel between the tire bead and rim some had even gotten into the wheel.

I often think that if there would have been someone coming the other way that day I would have freight trained him into oblivion. That day charged my life because it was honestly the last time I ever did anything that stupid on the streets. I came to realize that having fun was one thing, but I did not have the right to put other people's live in jeopardy.

Too any young people reading this please remember it is not cool to be stupid, or dead.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150

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Alex Denysenko
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SCOOP
We had 12" wide rear tires and still had a ton of wheel spin.

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2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

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Originally posted by Moneymaker:

3)NEVER spot ANYBODY 10 car lenghts on the street!

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Well... That's not really true.

Sometimes, when I was racing a car that I wanted to make money on, I would tell them they could have a 5-10 car length head start...

And they could just watch me in their rearview mirror, and when I left, they could go.

Sure, they were still plenty far ahead when I'd leave, but the time it took for #1 them to notice in their mirror that my car had moved AND #2 react to it and set their car into motion the time differential was more than made up!

That 3/4 second at the starting line was only around a 1/2 to 1 car length (so I was still WAY behind off the line), but at the finish line travelling over 100mph, that 3/4 second is around 8-10 car lengths. (just think how far a car travels in 3/4 second @ 100+ mph)

(pay attention in physics class, it relates to racing REALLY well!)

memories...

Both of these stories were back before I was using nitrous.

I was fairly unfamilear with the area we were racing, and agreed to line up (heads up) with a 440 Six Pack Roadrunner that had the 6-pack replaced with a single four and nitrous. He was beating about everyone around there at the time. He had a 4.10 gear, I had a 3.89. (I INSISTED we run on radials) Low torque 302 vs. nitroused big block... starting line advantage, mustang!

This dude took us to a LONG stretch of wide straight concrete that went on for a couple miles. We did our burnouts and lined up. I didn't know exactly where the finish line was... (big mistake) It turns out, he figured I might get him off the line, but his nitroused big block would reel me in once we got moving. This must have been the longest race in the world! I bet it went for a half mile or more!!! At the end, even with a 3.89 gear and no bottle, my car was cranked out to 6800 rpm in high gear!!! Crossing the guys at the finish line felt like a jet plane fly-by! Oh yea, how it turned out... On the start, I pulled him about a carlength (just as expected), but that nitroused mopar just didn't have enough Wheaties, as the mustang kept that carlength advantage all the way to the finish line.

Some time later (no bottle) I took some money from a nitroused big block Chevelle, and he sold the car less than a week later.

Fun fun fun...

n2oMike, I bet he bought a FORD!!

Erik

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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I shouldn't post this because we don't want to encourage street racing, but a friend and I used to work at a gas station and we would close it at midnight then he would hop into his metallic green '72 Sportroof and I'd hop into my Sprint and we would go racing down this road that ran by the beach and through a heavily wooded area and we would draft each other so close I still have marks on my urethane bumper from getting too close. We'd be blasting through the curves so hard we'd almost spin out then we'd park in this church parking lot and listen for the cops to come looking for us after the people in the neighborhood called them.

Man, we were bad boys. Sometimes I wonder how we survived.

...Since we're confessing...

The scariest thing I ever experienced was one time when that same friend and I were cruising around on this road that has a very long hill that used to bottom out at this green metal bridge that went over a river and what we though was fun was to go down this hill with the speedometer pegged and go through this bridge which seems incredibly narrow at that high a speed then the suspension would bottom out as you hit the hit the hill climbing out of the river basin then you climb this hill until you crested it and at speed you would almost be airborn! What a rush! It was like a rollercoaster ride! This was a good place to take a guy who claimed "He never got scared of anything." You could then introduce them to 'Jelly Knees.'

Anyway, one hot summer day we hit this road, come barreling down the hill, through the bridge, up the hill, over the crest, {still over 100 mph} AND SEE A FARMER ON A TRACTOR WITH A WAGON FULL OF HAY IN THE ROAD GOING ABOUT 5 MPH!!! I had what seems like a millisecond to react and I twitched the wheel over to the other side of the road {luckily there was nobody there!!!} and the left wheels went off the shoulder {big drop} and I manaaged to get it back on the road, it shot across to the other shoulder, {another big drop} and I still managed to get it back on the road and I straighten it out. I looked in the mirror and all I saw was a huge dust cloud and a farmer standing on his tractor waving his fist at me. We went up the road a bit and stopped at a country store because the car started feeling real funny and I found I had a front tire going down. We changed it and later on when I took the tire down there was so much gravel between the tire bead and rim some had even gotten into the wheel.

I often think that if there would have been someone coming the other way that day I would have freight trained him into oblivion. That day charged my life because it was honestly the last time I ever did anything that stupid on the streets. I came to realize that having fun was one thing, but I did not have the right to put other people's live in jeopardy.

Too any young people reading this please remember it is not cool to be stupid, or dead.

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Whew!!

SteveL, drafting?? WOW!! And barreling down a hill?? hehehe I would've $h!t my pants if you took me on a ride like that!!

Erik

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1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress

Whatever happened to "no replacement for displacement"? <-- Is that right?

The 283, 327, 350, 396 & 454 are the chevy motors i've heard of. Which motors are the choice of chevy racers?

I know for Fords, the 302-347 and 351C/W-427W are the displacements that most people choose other than the stroked 460-557BBFs.

Erik

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1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150

I street raced that car and won more that I lost. There was this pesky 69 Mustang that would race me every week thinkin his 302 could beat me. He never did. He tried every little trick he could. One day he removed his front sway bar.

I was on my way home from my little grocery store job at around 10:00 pm when he found me. He pulls up next to me and revs his motor. I of course punch the 442 going around a slight curve. He punches his too and can't make the curve (no sway bar)... clips my drivers side qtr panel. My bias ply tires don't hold. I go over the curb into the mud at 50-60 MPH take out a fence row and got t-boned by a telephone pole. The car is totalled. I am in the middle of the country and the guy in the Mustang does not stop.

I passer by picked me up and took me home. My Dad is fit to be tied. The Police want to arrest me for racing. I have Liability insurance and guy in the Mustang has no insurance. Say bye bye to the 442. And hello to a heartbroken 17 yr old.

My next car was a 67 AMC rambler with 6cyl 3 on the tree. Thanks Dad

My street racing career was ended. The next fast car I had (72 Cuda)only raced at the track.

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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
The 396 wasn't the optimal chevy engine, they were just very common. The bad boy was the 427, they had balls, but you didn't see them often. The LS5, LS6, and LS7 454 got alot of respect, too. Most guys I knew had small blocks, though.

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Hey SteveL, the LS5, LS6, and LS7 are all late model motors right? Used in the late camaros and Z06 Corvettes?

Erik

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1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress

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Originally posted by 64FalconF-16:
My first car was a 69 442. I was 13 when it was brought home. It was a basket case. blown motor dents etc. This was 1977. ...

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Have mercy on me, man. Now I really feel like I should be in the geriatric ward. 13 in '77.

anyway... not many old time runs for me. I get my jollys slappin around kids in their Dakota R/Ts and Z/28 Sled-maros with the Lightning. No real smack-down stuff (isn't that what they say?). Just little signal to signal sprints...

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70 Mach1
79 Ranchero GT
97 Expedition XLT
00 SVT f150 Lightning 4149 of 4966 Born on: 06/26/2000

In the mid 80's, I was riding shotgun in my buddy's 455 Cutlass one night, when a lumpety-lump '68 Chevelle pulled up alongside at a stoplight light. Cutlass left lane, Chevelle in the right. This was on a four-lane road heading out of town, so what better place for a race, huh? The light changed, and the race was on. Once my friend was comfortably into high gear, we took a look back to see the Chevelle at about 4 lengths behind, and decided that this would be a good time to shut down, and call it a race.

Unfortunately, the Chevelle driver had a different idea, and decided to do a "fly by", as we were cresting a slight hill. There was a crossroad just beyond the crest, and you guessed it, a vehicle turning into the path of the Chevelle. We had front row seats for the Chevelle's impact at 120+ mph into the back of a van full of elderly people. Amazingly, there were only minor injuries to the occupants, but one very dead '68 Chevelle.

It put a scare in me that will forever haunt me. My buddy and I both vowed at that time to take our racing to the track only, and both of us took up NHRA class racing.

On a lighter note, I learned some very important lessons during my street racing days.

1. Firestone 26 x 6.5 slicks mounted on Supertrick wheels are the hot setup. You must groove the sidewall slightly to apply a painted whitewall to it, and attach factory wheel covers to the Supertricks.

2. The ingenuity of some people to hide their nitrous is truly amazing.

3. Cars can actually do wheelies on the street.

4. A 468 must have been a factory option in any year Chevelle.

5. Propane powered cop cars are slow.

6. Police helicopters with spotlights are fast.

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Originally posted by rockafellz:
Hey SteveL, the LS5, LS6, and LS7 are all late model motors right? Used in the late camaros and Z06 Corvettes?

Erik

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Nope, Chevy re-used the LS-6 name.
The LS-5 (390hp) and LS-6 (450 hp)were factory installed High performance 454s. The LS-7 was a hotter "Crate motor" that probably made about 530hp with headers.
BTW I think Alex had more problems with the '68 - '69 Chevelles Versus the 70-72 models have to do with weight I bet. I think the increasing safety and emissions standards made the later Chevelles heavier.

My Pace Car has made a few good kills since I modded it up this spring. 2002 GT, 1967 Nova with a nice sounding 350 and a few ricers that thought they could hang. Got my butt handed to me by my roommmate's 1970 Boss 302 though (definitely NOT stock). Gotta take the lumps with the trophies!

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'79 Mustang Indy 500 Pace Car
Ian's Pace Car Website
Vancouver Island Mustang Association Website
Indy Pace Car Registry of Mustangs Official Website

Next was with the Mazda again, but lined up against an SN95 GT in Tucson. I smoked him off the line and we raced to the speed limit. He must not have been able to drive very well, because he never did get ahead of me.

I was a passenger when one of my high school buddies with a 350 powered Vega decided to race the hillbilly he bought the car from through town. The hillbilly was driving a late 60's Chivvy longbed 2wd. We were on the four lane going through town in the middle of the day (stupid) and we came up behind two cars at about 100 in a 35mph zone, so my buddy takes the turning lane and the hillbilly takes the ditch!!! He wasn't about to let traffic get in his way. Luckily there were no casualties.

But sometimes street racing doesn't come out so well. A couple guys I went to school with were racing home. One in a 455 powered Olds and the other in a mid 60's F-100. The guy in the F truck got squirrely, rolled, was ejected through the windshield, and was crushed between the door (that came open on the first roll) and the fender. It was a closed coffin funeral.

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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
We're not condoning anything Steve, we're just telling stories.

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Originally posted by Mario428:
Sorry but yes you are, I got into this on another forum for objecting to glorifying street racing and got called a lot of things. But you senior members of these forums do not realize the impact you have on the beginners and younger people who read these messages.
And I have never street raced and am comfortable objecting to the glorification of it.

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Hey Mario, it can go either way depending on how you look at it. When someone reading this thread gets all excited and wants to do the same thing, it's not like we pointed a gun to his head to do it. It's his/her choice and DECISION. But I and a few others in some cases have never witnessed or experienced these type of events and to ME it's great to read stories of days gone by. History of street racing and how it was and will never be again. Reading this thread isn't any different from a group of kids talking about street racing at the local McDonalds. In any case, it's harmless compared to a couple of local kids talking about street racing cause you know what, they'll hop right in their car and instigate a race. GUARANTEED!!

It's the readers choice whether or not he chooses to street race due to reading the content of this thread. As many stories as there has been posted, there is equally as many warnings about NOT doing it!!

Just me...

Erik

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1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress

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But you senior members of these forums do not realize the impact you have on the beginners and younger people who read these messages.

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Liberal BS, blah blah blah. Reading about street racing doesn't cause anyone to street race. If I make a post about seeing someone hold up a liquor store, am I influencing the beginners and younger people who read these messages to buy a gun and run to the local 7-11 for some easy money? C'mon. You know better than that. People can make up their own minds. Youth does not automatically revoke decision making rights and abilities. Lighten up. They're just stories. Besides, I haven't heard anyone on here talk about how great street racing is or encourage it on today's roads.

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Neal

My son has 2 fast cars at his disposal. He knows the possible consequences of street racing. He has made the choice that ALL racing is done at the track. Until recently I seemed to want to regain the glory days of light to light street racing. Well, let it be known that those days are long gone. At least in this town they are. This and other threads about street racing are just ways to dream about "the good ole days" and the days when driving a fast car was more a right of passage than any thing else.

I hope no one takes anything said here as condoning street racing because that was never the intent.

Sorry for the long post, but I just had to say my peace.

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Originally posted by Mario428:
Sorry but yes you are, I got into this on another forum for objecting to glorifying street racing and got called a lot of things. But you senior members of these forums do not realize the impact you have on the beginners and younger people who read these messages.
And I have never street raced and am comfortable objecting to the glorification of it.

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You are right, and I worry that we may be glorifying this to our younger readers. All I can say is that this was our past and I hope the younger members are smart enough to realize how stupid it was then and is now.

I had a classmate in high school that rolled his Challenger during a race and a passenger was ejected and the car came to rest on him, killing him. My former classmate has to live with that on his heart.

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150

One thing though that was scary though that kinda scares me about the rain is that one nights 2 of my friends and i were getting on the freeway with a windy on ramp on the way to the cruise night, my 2nd gear on my 3 speed was gone so i got into 3rd from 1st, but it wasnt getting up to speed like i wanted so i double clutched it, next thing i know my car starts fish tailing on me, to my right a 40 or so foot drop, to the left traffic, i was fighting it, then just when i though it was under control it just went completly around on me, sliding over a curb (with sparks flying everywhere) seperating me from the same moving traffic which ended up putting me facing the oncoming traffic that i was supposed to be moving with. Since we were all ok, i began flashing my highs so people would realize where i was, it took my friends and i a couple of seconds to figure out how to get going the right way again, I just ended up backing up and turning the car around, started going the right way and the car felt fine to my surprise, didnt even pull to anysides, or vibrate. I just put new rims though 3 days before so i was all bummed out, expecting them to be all messed up. When we got to the hang out spot, nothing was wrong with the car, just a bent traction bar (probably was what saved my exaust system). Man, did i have a smile.

The crazy part is that all 3 of us in the car were all laughing about it when we were still facing the wrong way of traffic, it wasnt till i got home and ready for bed that i realized what really happened and that anything, even death could have been the result that night. Man, my car and i have been through a lot, it kills me that i cant drive her now (finishing up a new engine for her), hopfully one more week and she will come roaring to life!

Even my friends miss that car, especially since they havent seen her for like 3-4 months since she is in my garage.

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Under Construction 66 Coupe

289 V8 - 600cfm Holley - Tri-Y Headers - Flowmaster 2.5 dual exaust - Centerforce Dual Friction

Installing balanced 306, 10.2 compression, 66 heads w/port work, waiting on cam, manifold, & carb

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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You are right, and I worry that we may be glorifying this to our younger readers. All I can say is that this was our past and I hope the younger members are smart enough to realize how stupid it was then and is now.

I had a classmate in high school that rolled his Challenger during a race and a passenger was ejected and the car came to rest on him, killing him. My former classmate has to live with that on his heart.

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Having worked for 2 years for Reno PD.I have been on both sides of the fence of this issue.I hope the younger group are old enough to know right from worng already.Racing on the street is a large risk,not only to yourself but to many others too.I have never had the fun racing that I had at the Track this last year.
I'd like to think we all can handle the FACT the street racing is as big apart of Hotrodding,and fast cars as a motor is.
I would not be happy to find my son was out racing on the street anymore then my dad was.

SCOOP

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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

And I never INHALED EITHER..

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Don
'66 Fastback
302 with 5 speed
Royal Blue Metallic w/Ghost Flames
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/BigD.html

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Originally posted by Mario428:
Sorry but yes you are, I got into this on another forum for objecting to glorifying street racing and got called a lot of things. But you senior members of these forums do not realize the impact you have on the beginners and younger people who read these messages.
And I have never street raced and am comfortable objecting to the glorification of it.

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Yeah, you're right Mario. I suppose Davey Crockett caught a bunch of sh*t from some "group" or another when he told all of those indian a$$ whoopin' stories too.

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NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

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Co-Administrator and Moderator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

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The best rule is safety first, when it doubt shut it down, never go over 100MPH. [/B]

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One of the best times I have had at the track was this past year. The Track I normally raced at decided to stay open for street racers. On Friday and Saturdays they would stay open from 12:00 AM till 4:00 AM for street racers. $5.00 a car.

They would run immediate green on the tree. Stage then....Green. No times were displayed. There were rumors of a sub 5 sec street car that the track folks timed.

The night I went there had to have been 200 cars show up some on trailers, some were legends in the Dallas Street racing scene that never raced at a normal track event.

Tons and Tons of Laughing gas. N20 heaven.

There was gambling going on.... Like normal. There were some real fast cars there too. I ran my Falcon a couple of times. Won 1 lost 1. All of the street racers behaved themselves. Denton County PD was onsite and did not hassle them unless they got out of hand. They also had an EMT onsite that the track paid for.

The main thing was it was fun and it was safe.
I did not realize there was such a large sub-culture in Dallas. I had seen them before, late at night racing on a remote stretch of road several times.

I believe they still have this program going at the Denton Raceway. Not sure since I have moved. It is a great idea. Wish more tracks took the time out to do this. It is almost a community service. And it was BYOB. Standing rule. You drink you don't race. If they caught you that is.

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That's a really good idea about Denton's racetrack. If only the local CA tracks did the same thing. "Stage then Green" is true stoplight street racing too.

What are the chances of proposing this to Sears or Sacramento raceway and having it approved? To me it sounds like a great idea!!

For some odd reason in my head, I doubt it would pass. I think the Bay Area, CA police earn more $$$ by handing out tickets to the local street racers. To me, I really think the local police don't mind since they can hit their quota more easily with all the rice rockets racing on the streets and freeways.

Erik

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1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress

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Originally posted by Glens67:
I think that Sears Point Might do instant green. They do it at Las Vegas

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Morning Glen, COOL!! I may have to invest in a car trailer soon!! Either that or just rent a trailer when I plan to take it to the track.

Erik

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1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress

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Originally posted by steve'66:
Sacramento has "grudge" nights. If you don't want your time displayed, you just write "no time" on your window and they will keep it a secret. It's a fun time with losts of fast street cars, like 8 sec 1/4 milers.

SteveW

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I need to go there,I'd like to keep my times a secret too.

SCOOP

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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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Neal

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Originally posted by MrWesson22:
I've come to believe the biggest problem with getting street racers to the track is the safety requirements after talking to some of the local guys. Most of them don't meet the standards for the time they're running.

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That's just it. No times are displayed. NHRA and IHRA rules are not in effect. The cars don't go through an inspection. However every person that comes through the gates has to sign a waiver form Not holding the track liable for any accidents.

The main thing is to get the kids off the street and to the track to race. It also promotes drag racing as I have seen some of these guys get their cars up to standards and race in a program as well.

At Denton, quite a few of the regulars stay after their programs to race the street racers. They see a real Legal race car and I think it peaks their interest.

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Originally posted by 64FalconF-16:
That's just it. No times are displayed. NHRA and IHRA rules are not in effect. The cars don't go through an inspection. However every person that comes through the gates has to sign a waiver form Not holding the track liable for any accidents.

The main thing is to get the kids off the street and to the track to race. It also promotes drag racing as I have seen some of these guys get their cars up to standards and race in a program as well.

At Denton, quite a few of the regulars stay after their programs to race the street racers. They see a real Legal race car and I think it peaks their interest.

Rick

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Okay, I didn't understand that. Commerce will refrain from posting your time if you wish (as all street racers do), but they still know what you run - you still get a timeslip. And they still hold you to the standards. Don't all tracks always make you sign a waiver freeing them from responsibility? I know Commerce does even for spectators. If they don't make you fit the safety standards, I think that would be quite effective in getting the racers off the streets and onto the tracks.

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Neal

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Co-Administrator and Moderator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Your storys are just too cool.
SCOOP

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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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Originally posted by Mario428:
Sorry but yes you are, I got into this on another forum for objecting to glorifying street racing and got called a lot of things. But you senior members of these forums do not realize the impact you have on the beginners and younger people who read these messages.
And I have never street raced and am comfortable objecting to the glorification of it.

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i probably should be saying this on the newer post but just because the older members are talking about the good old days of street racing doe not mean us younger members are going to go out and have planned street races. yes i probably will do a little light to light racing but exactly what is wrong with that. and i am not doing it cause i read this topic i am doing it cause it is a decision I made