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posted 10-11-2002 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earlier this week I watched Drag Racing Today, I'm not sure of the show title but it was on ESPN2. They were covering a Thursday night "run what ya brung" meet at Bristol Tennessee. What I found interesting was looking at the cars in the staging lanes it appeared that about 80% of them were fox Mustangs. I was wondering if that is the case other places.

The first racer they interviewed had just bought a brand new Mustang Cobra and took it and his slicks straight to the drag strip. Reminded me of myself in years past.

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posted 10-11-2002 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Test and Tune on Friday night at the local strip is about 90% fox body Mustangs.

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65_302
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posted 10-11-2002 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_302   Click Here to Email 65_302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's my next project. A 90 - 93 Fox body. Hope to start it in about 18 mos. I really like the realtive low $$$$/speed ratio. Seems like you can get them to go fast for less $$$$. Around here, its still the Chebbie crowd. We have some fox bodies, but its mostly GMs. Maybe we can get 2 Fords to the track within the next 2 yrs.

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posted 10-11-2002 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wireman   Click Here to Email Wireman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel your pain on the Chevy thing.
Most of my friends run Chevy products. I do have have to say that none of them have much luck tangling with me stock suspension for stock suspension.

Hands down the FOx Mustang is one of the best for true 10.5 racing.

The picture the other day was of my car on a motor pass.
Here is some with the fogger turned on.

Needless to say I changed the suspension around and it no longer does it this bad..

The car will carry the wheels like that for at least 400'

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posted 10-11-2002 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YO!


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posted 10-11-2002 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrWesson22   Click Here to Email MrWesson22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wheelstands are way .

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posted 10-11-2002 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CometGT1974   Click Here to Email CometGT1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AWESOME!!!!!!

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posted 10-11-2002 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW,they should give you a count down.
Thats a heck of a wheel stand.
Around here there are plenty of 5.0's at the track.But it's better the seeing chevys every where.
The 5.0's seem like the best bang for the buck,right now.

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posted 10-11-2002 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_302   Click Here to Email 65_302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
D_ _ m, wireman, better ground that thing or NASA will be coming to get you

That's kinda what I have in mind, when I can afford to do it. Not quite that drastic, but a low 12 or high 11 sec. fox body is what I would like to have. I know you probably have already posted the engine specs, but I don't remember seeing them. Would like to know, if you don't mind posting them. And, how do you get it to hook up?

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posted 10-11-2002 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wireman   Click Here to Email Wireman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 65_302:
D_ _ m, wireman, better ground that thing or NASA will be coming to get you

That's kinda what I have in mind, when I can afford to do it. Not quite that drastic, but a low 12 or high 11 sec. fox body is what I would like to have. I know you probably have already posted the engine specs, but I don't remember seeing them. Would like to know, if you don't mind posting them. And, how do you get it to hook up?


The motor is somewhere around 500" with an aluminum CJ head, Coan C6 and a 9". Those pictures were of the car on a 225 tune up in the fogger foot braking. People do not believe there is no trans brake in the car.
I have since taken delivery of a new JPT power glide and converter. Hopefully it will leave a little harder. Not that it needs to do that.
As far as suspesnion is concerned, it is all Wolfe in the rear. I have the double adjustable lowers and uppers along with their anti roll bar.
It also has a Wolfe cage with through floor subframe connectors.
The front is all stock, for now..
That is changing this weekend. I am doing the AJE moly K-member and A frames along with all light weight brakes. It still has the stock tank with a sump. I am moving the fuel system to the front and only going to use a 3 gallon cell. No more street driving. Yes, the car is "street legal" and is driven out to the local cruise spots on Saturday nights.

Right now it weighs 3420 with me in it. At the time those pictures were taken the car weighed 3550 with me in it.
I am hoping to get it down to 3200.

So far my best time to date is an 8.87 @ 157 back in August. If you know what the TX summers are like you can figure what the air was, BAD!

I have a few more pics here and a video of a low 9 pass clicky clicky


So in a nutshell, that is the car.
I have a few pics of the cage and such if anyone is interested.

rd


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posted 10-11-2002 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But of course we are interested Randy.

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posted 10-11-2002 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
But of course we are interested Randy.


I'll 2nd that,

SCOOP

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Wireman
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posted 10-11-2002 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wireman   Click Here to Email Wireman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote





This one is before I changed the fogger. It looks a little different now.

And one to show the under powered pull truck.

I will have new pictures of the K-Member install next week.
The car has been a labor of love.

rd

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posted 10-11-2002 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And....no sissy shifter either!

Real men don't use no stinkin' sissy shifters!

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posted 10-11-2002 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice real nice work,and that "pull truck" is awsome too.

SCOOP

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posted 10-11-2002 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We need to put some FLAMES on the BAD BOY..

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posted 10-12-2002 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wireman, what does it run on just motor?
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posted 10-12-2002 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_302   Click Here to Email 65_302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. I will get my fox body some day. Will never get to where you are though. It sure is a nice set up.

I'm interested to know the N/A times as well. I'm not much on power adders. Just tweak the ole Holley's to get the best you can and let her rip. But that launch attitude is wild. Is it scary not seeing the track for the first 100 ft?

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posted 10-12-2002 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wireman   Click Here to Email Wireman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 65_302:
Thanks for the info. I will get my fox body some day. Will never get to where you are though. It sure is a nice set up.

I'm interested to know the N/A times as well. I'm not much on power adders. Just tweak the ole Holley's to get the best you can and let her rip. But that launch attitude is wild. Is it scary not seeing the track for the first 100 ft?


As long as the car goes straight, it doesn't bother me to leave the front wheels dangling.

It went a 9.76 @ 140 NA.

I am in the process of finishing up the new motor as we speak.

The new power plant is a C460 headed beast. They flow close to 200 more CFM on the intake and 150 on the exhaust more than my CJ heads. The new combo will be bigger and still run a single 4.
I am hoping for an 8 second time slip on motor.

Hopefully I will be able to take care of some of those pesky turbo cars that I run against.

rd

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posted 10-12-2002 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW!!

That's too cool.

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posted 10-12-2002 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_302   Click Here to Email 65_302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great numbers. If I can just get to my goal I will be happy. Who am I kidding.......once you reach one goal you start looking to the next. Speed is addictive.

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posted 10-12-2002 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Hard core!

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WoW... too cool!!!

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Very cool car.
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Wireman's Mustang is so HOT,, I just had to put it in the HALL OF FLAMES..

CHECK IT OUT..
http://pub39.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=3336742731

Welcome to M&M Randy..

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posted 10-14-2002 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hell,, I didn't mean to chase everyone off.. Just hoped Randy liked the FLAMES..

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Don the flames look good on Randys car.

SCOOP

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posted 10-14-2002 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did somebody say flames?

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I Like the flames...
But I like to keep my cars plain looking so I can sneak up on unsuspecting chevies...

Around here, if you have a fancy paint job it scares all of those guys.. Heck, I like the sleeper look of a refrigerator white car..

I have had so many people tell me that before they saw my car make a pass, they were guessing maybe an 11 second ride..
Then I rip an 8 second pass and the crowds swarm..

Just about finished with the K-Memeber and transmission swap.. Waiting on my gears and drive shaft.

I hope to test this weekend. I will let you guys know how it worked.

rd

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Any Mustang that runs that quick,, looks good in any color.. Especially plane old White..

Glad you liked the flames..

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posted 10-20-2002 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dusty Kiser   Click Here to Email Dusty Kiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wireman:
I Like the flames...
But I like to keep my cars plain looking so I can sneak up on unsuspecting chevies...

Around here, if you have a fancy paint job it scares all of those guys.. Heck, I like the sleeper look of a refrigerator white car..

I have had so many people tell me that before they saw my car make a pass, they were guessing maybe an 11 second ride..
Then I rip an 8 second pass and the crowds swarm..

Just about finished with the K-Memeber and transmission swap.. Waiting on my gears and drive shaft.

I hope to test this weekend. I will let you guys know how it worked.

rd

[This message has been edited by Wireman (edited 10-15-2002).]


I agree Wireman, I love the stock look with all that potential. I have a question. What are the two vertical links and the attatched crossbar on your rear end housing? Is that just for towing or am I missing something?

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What are the two vertical links and the attatched crossbar on your rear end housing? Is that just for towing or am I missing something?


Looks like an anti-roll bar to me.

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Yeah, I think it's one of those lame Alston anti roll bar deals. We never had any luck with them on Fox cars, high or low powered ones.

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Yes, that is an anti-roll bar.

Before I put it on the car, it would corkscrew badly. ie, lift the left front about 8" higher than the right.
Once I added that piece, it now leaves with both tires level.

I finished up the AJE k-member last week and went testing Sunday.
I really like the way the car feels now.
It did have the stock k-member and brakes. It now has the AJE moly k-member, a arms and struts along with the Wilwood brakes. The car lost 159 pounds.
At the track the numbers were most pleasing.

The last pass of the night yielded a 9.51 @
143.
The car actually ran the first 60' better NA than it ever has on the nitrous. Should be very interesting when I turn the bottle on.

I have a big true 10.5 race this weekend and will keep you guys posted.

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posted 10-21-2002 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kwazykat:
Looks like an anti-roll bar to me.



Oops.

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