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Topic: 69 coupe drag/street suspension?
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MrWesson22
Esteemed Member Posts: 199
From:Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-03-2000 12:34 AM
   
With over 350rwhp and 4.11s (when I get them), what would yall suggest for getting this thing to hook? The suspension is completely stock right now. When it gets back on the road, it will have a detroit locker, so that will help. I was thinking SSM lift bars (to help with my current wheelhop problems) and comp. engineering adj drag shocks set to 70/30 and 50/50 for the street. I'd change em to 90/10 at the strip. Will subframe connectors make a big difference? Also, what front springs should I go with? If possible, I'd like it to be 1" lower in the front but still have a drag biased spring. Sorry for the long post and so many questions here. I don't know much about suspension. Please help me out here. Thanks!------------------
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Nos351C
Esteemed Member Posts: 1350
From:Rohnert Park, CA USA M&M member#591
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 10-03-2000 01:27 AM
With a drag biased suspension, I would say the moroso fronts would work pretty well. As for subframes, do it your unibody will like you for it.------------------
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MrWesson22
Esteemed Member Posts: 199
From:Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-03-2000 01:43 AM
Would the moroso fronts allow me to lower the front an inch? Thanks.------------------
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Nos351C
Esteemed Member Posts: 1350
From:Rohnert Park, CA USA M&M member#591
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posted 10-03-2000 02:13 AM
not sure, I don't have them in yet. They are only 242 lb per inch so I would assume so..
They are quite long, I am assuming to help store energy for weight transfer. The catalog's all say you can trim them to get a proper stance if you like.
hth------------------
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MrWesson22
Esteemed Member Posts: 199
From:Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-03-2000 02:36 AM
Great, thanks!------------------
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Earle Holt
New to M&M Posts: 52
From:Camden, Maine
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 10-03-2000 09:15 AM
Mr Wesson,As far as the rear suspension, I've had good experinces with both lift bars and OEM-type straight bars. Alot of it depends on what kind of weight transfer you get from the mods you make to the front suspension. Obviously, lift bars will lift the rear end and straight bars will cause the rear to squat. From what I have seen, the lift bars seem to help cars that don't transfer weight to the rear that well. I run an automatic, so there may be other considerations with a stick car that I am not aware of. Whatever choice you make, I would strongly recommend reinforcing the torque boxes and the upper control arm mounts! It's much easier to reinforce them before something happens than to fix them after you tear them apart. IP: Logged |
Moneymaker
Super Kahuna Posts: 5491
From:Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-03-2000 11:37 AM
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT use the Moroso front springs in a Mustang with a small block. You will not be happy with the results. They were designed for use in conjunction with the 428 CJ. I don't care what the cataloge says, just trust me on this one. They are for big block use only.  Alex------------------
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Nos351C
Esteemed Member Posts: 1350
From:Rohnert Park, CA USA M&M member#591
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posted 10-03-2000 11:45 AM
Arrggh!!! Really Alex?  ------------------
Marcus
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MrWesson22
Esteemed Member Posts: 199
From:Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-03-2000 11:53 PM
Ok, Alex. Thanks for saving me the money on that one. Have an alternative suggestion?------------------
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ASTIKHOSSW
New to M&M Posts: 26
From:UPLAND CA SAN BERNARDINO
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-04-2000 12:55 AM
MRWESSON22,HOSS HERE I HAVE 1969 MUSTANG MACH 1 428SCJ THAT I BRACKET RACE.I DO'NT DRIVE IT ON THE STREET.BUT I HAVE THE MOROSO FRONT SPRINGS AND I TOOK ABOUT A 3/4 COIL OUT TO DROP IT LESS THAN INCH,I RUN THE 3 WAY ADJUSTABLE SHOCKS ALL AROUND,I HAVE ALUMINUM BUSHING INSTALLED IN THE LEAF SPRING EYELETS,
AND JUST SOME COMMON OLD SLAPPER BARS.AND I MANAGE TO GET 12.40 AT 112 MPH IN THE 1/4.I HAVE NO FRAME STIFFING AND MANAGE TO GET 1.8
.60 FT TIMES.SO IF THIS HELPS ANY TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.IP: Logged |
MrWesson22
Esteemed Member Posts: 199
From:Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-04-2000 01:22 AM
Thanks guys. I also just looked at the price of lakewood traction bars vs. lift bars... $36 vs. $126!! I hadnt really thought about it that much before. I think the traction bars would work better on my car, and the cost difference definately doesn't hurt. So, what should I do for springs?------------------
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Moneymaker
Super Kahuna Posts: 5491
From:Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-04-2000 11:22 AM
Go to your local NAPA or parts store of your choice. Look up OEM replacement springs for a 69 Mustang with a 250 six cylinder engine and no A/C. With A/C will work also. Those springs will give you the desired front end travel with the small block weight. Alex------------------
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Ryan Wilke
New to M&M Posts: 46
From:Stanton, MI
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-08-2000 07:00 PM
MrWesson22, I installed a pair of MaierRacing Enterprises subframe connectors on my SBF w/4spd, '69FB and they do a GREAT JOB of keeping it straight down the track. Sure, you can find cheaper ones, but I feel they were one of my better investments! Take a look @ www.maierracing.com IP: Logged |
Moneymaker
Super Kahuna Posts: 5491
From:Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-09-2000 12:23 PM
Welcome to M&M Ryan  !!! Nice to have you join us. Alex------------------
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Ryan Wilke
New to M&M Posts: 46
From:Stanton, MI
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-10-2000 12:06 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome to M&M, Alex !By the way, I was wondering if you recieved my fax I sent you (yesterday) or not? Ryan IP: Logged |
Moneymaker
Super Kahuna Posts: 5491
From:Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-10-2000 12:47 PM
Yes I did Ryan and I replyed on the "traction" thread. I got you covered. Alex------------------
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