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tedster
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posted 09-24-2000 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tedster   Click Here to Email tedster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have noticed a difference of almost a half second between open headers and a complete 2 1/2 exhaust system. However, with the exhaust in place the bottom end felt stronger.

I'm looking for some opinions on running open headers on your SB with the reducers bolted on and without.

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Earle Holt
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posted 09-24-2000 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earle Holt   Click Here to Email Earle Holt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What headers are you running? If you were running your long-tubes open, try adding 3"x18" long collector extensions. This will give you back the torque you lost. -- You can fine-tune the extensions by drawing a crayon mark from the header to the end of the collector extension. Make a good hard run, then check your crayon mark. Cut the extension near where the crayon mark is melted away. Leave yourself an inch or so leeway. Remember, it's easier to cut more of the collector extension off later than to add a piece. Does this answer your question?

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tedster
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posted 09-24-2000 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tedster   Click Here to Email tedster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks,

Thats what I was looking for. I am using Hooker competition headers.

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camachinist
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posted 09-24-2000 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for camachinist   Click Here to Email camachinist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's quite impressive...would you care to share your et's and 60' times?

I like running the race car corked up so much I've never even tried running open headers with the latest combination...I also like the abundance of torque leaving the line; combined with the silence of a full system, it can be intimidating to opponents, especially those who are at the faster end of the bracket, since I run in the 11.40's and get to leave on them...

As an aside, when I used to run open headers on my 289, I put a 2 1/2" (that's right) x 18" collector extension on and it made the enigne sound so sweet, especially in the top end, when it was spinning 7300 or so going through the lights...almost sounded like 180 degree headers...

Much more fun than being corked up but I must say I've won much more money with the current combination...go figure..*G*

Pat

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Earle Holt
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posted 09-25-2000 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earle Holt   Click Here to Email Earle Holt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's nothing like the sound of open headers!

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jkilroy
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posted 09-25-2000 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkilroy   Click Here to Email jkilroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I favor the sweet whine of a turbo (or two) while flying down the track!

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steve'66
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posted 09-25-2000 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ted,

This isn't very scientific, but we did get back to back runs a few weeks ago.

The first pass corked up was 13.123 @ 108.246, 2.5" 2 chamber flows w/turn-downs.

The second run with open headers and exhaust removed 12.916 @ 110.112, no collectors.
Third run w/headers removed was 12.83 @ 110.3 (the next morning)

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-25-2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Open headers will always run quicker and faster when the engine is tuned with the maximum jetting and timing. Alex

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