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johnmustang
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From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 04-15-2003 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did the under-dash wiring today on the 65 fastback, what a sh!tty job that is, you have to be a contortionist to get up into it. I am not built for that kind of work, I am 6 foot 4 inch`s tall and a hefty 260 pounds, I hate to admit it but I got stuck. I was just finishing the last of the re-wiring on the harness and shoved my right arm up into the underside of the dash and shifted myself to the left a little bit and that was it, jammed tighter than bourbon street during Mardi Gras. I was on my back and could not move anything from my waist up all I could do was move my legs. Fortunately my buddy was there and helped me get out, but he had to pull the shifter out of the car so I could shift a bit and finally wiggle out. The next time I have to do any wiring under the dash on a mustang, I will 100% refuse to do it. Yes even if I lose a bunch of weight I will still refuse to do it.

JOHN

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V8 Thumper
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From: Arizona
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posted 04-15-2003 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel your pain John

At 6'2"/220, I find the under-dash confines of an early Mustang to be no fun at all

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mustangs68
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posted 04-15-2003 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL..see my comments about under dash work

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009744.html

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Fastback68
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From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
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posted 04-15-2003 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if anyone ever got stuck while doing that job alone, and died in there
What an embarrassing way to go!

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Fastymz
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posted 04-16-2003 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stuck under the dash pinned between my seat and my steering wheel.
My son had to help pull me out.It is alot more easy to work under the dash,if I remove the front seats 1st.

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aGreenAgent
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From: Orange County, CA
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posted 04-16-2003 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aGreenAgent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't have TOO much trouble, but I'm 6'4"/180. It is a little cramped in there though. I got a nice scratch on the back of my hand from getting it stuck and ripping it out.

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BlueMule
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posted 04-16-2003 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule   Click Here to Email BlueMule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although not a Mustang, I finally gave up and removed the entire dash from the Ranchero to re-wire and re-hose. Not fun.

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skips69
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From: Catlin, IL USA
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posted 04-16-2003 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for skips69   Click Here to Email skips69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After some past experiences with running down bad grounds, tracing wires, making repairs, etc, I have now concluded it is much easier to get at and work on the wiring with as much removed as possible. It is hard to get in the mood though when you have to spend more time removing things, then the actual work itself will require once there. It's all part of the ownership responsibilities though, gotta do it......

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indyphil
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From: Senoia, G.A. USA
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posted 04-16-2003 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I replaced my main harness I found it hard work (but im only 5'10)
I think removing the steering wheel would help but I dont have the required puller.

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70SportsRoof
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From: Orange County, CA
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posted 04-16-2003 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always found wiring cars to be easy. But I'm probably one of the shortest ones here, I'm 5'8" and weigh about 150. Hmmm....maybe I should get into the Mustang re-wire business.

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1970 Mustang Deluxe SportsRoof (daily driver), 1946 Ford pickup, 1947 Ford pickup, 1957 Ford Fairlane 500 Town Vic

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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-16-2003 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary you should theres good money in it.
Us fat guys,or big guys sorry dont like to get stuck all the time.
I'm only 5'11 and 220 I think it's the 220 part that makes me get stuck.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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dark_pony37
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From: Albq., NM 87111
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posted 05-01-2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dark_pony37   Click Here to Email dark_pony37     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys, I just got ahold of a beat up '65 pony, and am in the process of restoration. However, despite my best research I've gotten snagged on the interior dash wiring. Of the books I've got, none show anything in this area! Any info or comments would be appreciated!

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Steve-UK
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From: Wickford, Essex, England
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posted 05-01-2004 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve-UK   Click Here to Email Steve-UK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just finished re-wiring my 66 coupe, I must admit I did remove both front seats, the steering wheel, and the clocks. It was still a pain in the butt, and the scares have almost healed

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adragon8u
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From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003

posted 05-01-2004 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dark_pony37:
Guys, I just got ahold of a beat up '65 pony, and am in the process of restoration. However, despite my best research I've gotten snagged on the interior dash wiring. Of the books I've got, none show anything in this area! Any info or comments would be appreciated!


There is a site that someone posted not to long ago with an excellent wiring diagram.
Anyone out here remember? I used to have a link to the diagrams on my hard drive from my webpage. I need to put it back.

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mellowyellow
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posted 05-02-2004 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have all my wiring out-66 cv. . Will put it all back in when I have the column out and of course, seats and shifter. I built a platform one time that allowed me to lie flat. Worked good. An advantage to taking it out is that it can be worked on in comfort. Have a magnifying reader that is on a pedestal. Having the backside of dash painted white helps a bit, also, when putting it back in. Not liking electrical, purchased the Osborn electrical assembly manual for 66 Mustang. The engineering drawings, in addition to full schematics, makes the job a lot easier.

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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 05-02-2004 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dark_pony37:
Guys, I just got ahold of a beat up '65 pony, and am in the process of restoration. However, despite my best research I've gotten snagged on the interior dash wiring. Of the books I've got, none show anything in this area! Any info or comments would be appreciated!

This site as some good info,

http://www.ukstang.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/wire.htm

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SCOOP

oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc.

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65darkhorse
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From: Northern NJ
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posted 05-02-2004 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65darkhorse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
try this site as well:

wiring

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