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H��an
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Posts: 12
From: Rimbo, Sweden
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 10-07-2002 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for H¡¦an   Click Here to Email H¡¦an     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

Been lurking on and off here at Mustangsand more for a while and as I saw that my website was mentioned in a post I might as well join in.

My name is H��an ��tlund and I live in place called Rimbo ~30 miles northeast of Stockholm, Sweden and that�� in northern Europe.

I have a ��7 Mustang coupe undergoing restomodding, I owned it for two years, previous owners converted it from sixcylinder to 289, C4 and a N-case nineinch. I have fixed a lot of rust, rebuilt the engine and converted it to EFI and I have a lot of future plans for it.


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H��an
Rimbo, Sweden
��7 coupe 289 EFI

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I65Stang
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Posts: 5950
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-07-2002 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me be the first to welcome you to M&M! Try not to get addicted .

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Tim

M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html

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mustangs68
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Posts: 18183
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99

posted 10-07-2002 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H��an,
Welcome to M&M!!
Sam

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johnmustang
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Posts: 4504
From: Vancouver Island , British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 10-07-2002 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M.

JOHN

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65 2+2 FASTBACK
68 COUPE
87 TAURUS WAGON
98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
MyPhotoPage
MY TRUCK

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Ken
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From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-07-2002 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to a unique corner of the internet H��an !!! Post often, theres no international postage charge .

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Conciousness - that annoying time between naps.

Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 5spd - Coupe

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kid vishus
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Posts: 4736
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000

posted 10-07-2002 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M.

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Rob Hetzler
member #773
'69 mustang, 351C, 9.97 @ 133 mph 1/4, 6.27 @ 108 1/8, 1.344 60'
'70 mustang, flintstone power
'93 F150 Lightning 15.33 @ 87 mph, completely stock with 159k miles
'99 Pro Et track champion
'00 Mod ET R-up (with new car)
'01 5th place Top ET, 7th place Mod ET

My Photo Page

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Fastymz
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Posts: 12015
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 10-07-2002 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to MM this is a great site.
It's good to have people from all over the world on here.The internet is just to cool so times.

SCOOP

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2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

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Moneymaker
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Posts: 19751
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99

posted 10-07-2002 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M Hakan !

Got any good pics of nakkid blonde Swedish women hanging around your car???

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA/MCA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"

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SteveLaRiviere
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Posts: 33988
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99

posted 10-07-2002 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, H��an!

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150

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Moneymaker
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Posts: 19751
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99

posted 10-07-2002 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOw do you guys do that?

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA/MCA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"

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Ken
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Posts: 3981
From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-07-2002 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
HOw do you guys do that?

Copy and Paste

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Conciousness - that annoying time between naps.

Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 5spd - Coupe

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SteveLaRiviere
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Posts: 33988
From: Saco, Maine
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posted 10-07-2002 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a secret...

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150

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Ken
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Posts: 3981
From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-07-2002 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
It's a secret...

Oooooop's, sorry Steve

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Conciousness - that annoying time between naps.

Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 5spd - Coupe

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SteveLaRiviere
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Posts: 33988
From: Saco, Maine
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posted 10-07-2002 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blabbermouth!

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150

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Moneymaker
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Posts: 19751
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99

posted 10-07-2002 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha ha, >>>> H��an!See I did it. Thanks Ken, you're OK even if you are a baseball fan.

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA/MCA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"

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66bluefb
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Posts: 456
From: Okla.City,Okla.
Registered: May 2002

posted 10-07-2002 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bluefb   Click Here to Email 66bluefb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M don`t tell anyone but I like BASEBALL and the Oklahoma Sooners.BEAT TEXAS

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http://ourworld.cs.com/blagintony/myhomepage/auto.html>

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capri man
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Posts: 3600
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 10-07-2002 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
welcome H��an, hey look even i did it but the question is. how did
H��an do it?????????

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mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.
http://prestage.com/site/site_display.asp?SiteID=141

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Ken
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Posts: 3981
From: Prospect, Ct. M&M Member No. 31 MCA Member 49299
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-07-2002 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
Welcome H��an, hey look even I did it but the question is. How did H��an do it ??

Swedish keyboards !!!

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Conciousness - that annoying time between naps.

Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 5spd - Coupe

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jsracingbbf
Gearhead

Posts: 1853
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 10-07-2002 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M & M H��an! Do you know anyone else in Sweden that has an Early Model Mustang? The reason I ask is a friend of mine I met is from Sweden His first name is Torre'. I will have to look on one of his cards for his last name. Can't spell it or say it! he works for a company called Wartsilla they make large compressors for the company I work for. Any way he has a cool 67. Says he goes to allot of your Rallys? whatever that is. He says it is sorta like a car meet.

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Jerry Smith
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag
70 Mustang retired former footbrake car
"If You can't Run with the Big Dogs Stay on the Porch!"

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ewokeric
Gearhead

Posts: 174
From: woodbridge, va united states
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 10-07-2002 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M & M

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68 mustang coupe(california special)not real though but looks it(will be nice) 351w/c4
My 68 Coupe
[url=http://mustangsamdmore.50megs.com/ewokeric.html]

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71RESTO
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Posts: 1288
From: Oregon, USA
Registered: Oct 2000

posted 10-08-2002 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 71RESTO   Click Here to Email 71RESTO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M H��an!! Hope you enjoy our little slice of the internet.

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Duane
71 Fastback (his) under resto (351C-4V C6 auto)
73 Mach 1 (hers) (351CJ 4 speed)
66 289/2V coupe (daughter Ashley's)
89 LX 2.3 convertible (daughter Amanda's)
M & M Member #730

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Keahi73
Gearhead

Posts: 432
From: San Carlos, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 10-08-2002 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keahi73   Click Here to Email Keahi73     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, welcome, welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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68 Mustang Fastback GT
66 Mustang Coupe- proudly owned by my 14 year old sister now!
55 Ford F100-Pickup
55 Ford F100- Panel-is it a 56 if I sold it's frame and used 56 frame with IFS???
Pictures of the GT project!

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H��an
Journeyman

Posts: 12
From: Rimbo, Sweden
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 10-08-2002 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for H¡¦an   Click Here to Email H¡¦an     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks all!

Yes, the letter ��in my first name is a letter in the Swedish alphabeth together with ��and ��and the ralated keys can be found on Swedish and Finnish keyboards. To write ��you can write "alt+0229" using the numeric part of the keyboard, you can also use "Charmap" if you��e using Windows.

My name is pronounced "Hawk-an".

jsracingbbf:

Yes, I know a lot of other Swedish Classic Mustangers, I��e been in the car hobby for 25 years but the ��7 is my first Mustang. I think your Swedish friends name is Tore, I�� not sure what he means with rallys. There is a motorsport called rally that is big over here in Europe and in some other places, but I�� of course not sure if that is what he means.

The American branch of the Swedish car hobby is big, we have cruisings, drag racing and a lot of big meets organized by the Swedish Hot Rod magazines and different clubs.

The Classic Mustang Club of Sweden has around 1300 members, the club is open for Mustangs from all years but the Mustang haven�� been imported by Swedish Ford dealers since the seventies :-( and there�� mostly Classic Mustangs in the club.

Moneymaker:

I�� sorry, I have no such pictures but I got a blond wife and daughter, but they have their clothes on as it�� getting cold up here in northern Europe at this time of the year.

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H��an
Rimbo, Sweden
��7 coupe 289 EFI

This is a test to see if this image comes up:
http://www.ultrastang.com/Images/Hocke/Thumbs-up.jpg

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ccode67
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Posts: 1697
From: douglasville,ga,usa
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 10-08-2002 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Hakan, your link did work, nice car.

Enjoy.

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Stuart MCA #48902
M&M #1091
67 stang 5 speed, 351W,
Edelbrock Performer RPM package

Artificial Intelligence is no replacement for Natural Stupidity.

http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/ccode67.html

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rockafellz
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Posts: 1312
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001

posted 10-08-2002 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by H��an:
The Classic Mustang Club of Sweden has around 1300 members, the club is open for Mustangs from all years but the Mustang haven�� been imported by Swedish Ford dealers since the seventies :-( and there�� mostly Classic Mustangs in the club.

Hey H��an,

That is GREAT to hear!! 1300 Mustangs just in SWEDEN and ALL CLASSICS!!

Do you guys have a Mustang registry?

Also, it would be great to hear about some drag racing cars and events out there. I wonder if they set them up any different out there?

WELCOME TO M&M H��an!! This is a GREAT place for info and just hanging out!!

Erik

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1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress

1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored

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bibbs68
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From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-08-2002 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibbs68   Click Here to Email bibbs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome H��an! I believe we have met through the die-cast/model section of the M&M site. These are a great bunch of individuals here. I'm sure you will have a great time.

For those who haven't seen it, H��an has a great site to pick out your new wheels on your favorite Mustang. Great job H��an!

Here is a link: http://mustang.webhostme.com/wheels.htm

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Jeremy
'68 Coupe
M&M Member #685
MCA Member #49134
Help make the world a better place, drive a Ford and race a slot car!

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Moneymaker
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Posts: 19751
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99

posted 10-08-2002 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool car H��an

Bummmer on the cold and clothes.
I thought that women snow skied nakkid in Sweden?
Or, maybe that was Switzerland?


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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA/MCA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"

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H��an
Journeyman

Posts: 12
From: Rimbo, Sweden
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 10-08-2002 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for H¡¦an   Click Here to Email H¡¦an     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again all!

Makes me feel real good to have a welcome like this!

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rockafellz:

The Swedish club got a website but everything there is obviously in Swedish, the url is: http://www.mustangclub.com you can at least go there and check out some of the pictures. Unfortunately the design quality of that website ain�� the highest but that�� another story.

There�� a Swedish Shelby registry @ http://shelby.nu/ and if you check it out you will find that the Swedish King has two Shelbys! I��e seen them both in His Majestys own garage (believe it or not) when I was in charge of the guard force at the Royal Castle. I�� a retired Swedish Army Captain, working with IT today.

Swedish Drag Racing goes back to 1968 when the first official drag race was held. I�� actually a Swedish Drag Racing Champion myself as a Crew Chief/Mechanic in 1992 when we won the Top Fuel Dragbike series. Have a lot of friends that is or has been active drag racers. It�� pretty much over here like as I understand how the sport works in the US with the exception of some really special vehicles like the "Carbon Fibre Hunchback Racing Volvo" and some others. Here�� a page with a lot of links to European drag racing pages: http://www.cascadeurs-stunts.com/fr/extrem-drag.htm "Suede" is the Swedish (and largest) section.

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bibbs68:

Thanks!
Yes, that was me that dropped a note about the resin 1/24 scale ��7 coupe I found.


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Moneymaker:

I��l se what can be arranged, ha ha. I was on a business trip to Zurich, Switzerland earlier this year but all I saw was the airport, taxis, conference rooms, the hotel and it was raining the whole time I was there :-(


Catch you��l later.

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Mustang66
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Posts: 48
From: Tuttle Okla
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 10-08-2002 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mustang66   Click Here to Email Mustang66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M you will love the sight.Very good info on here.

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66 coupe 351W C-6 100hp NO2

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Big D
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From: WELLS, NEVADA
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posted 10-08-2002 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H��an,,

Welcome to M&M.. This is a great site.. Don't hesitate to ask lots of questions,, these guys are good..

You'll have to excuse Alex,, it's getting towards the end of Racing Season and he has been around tooooo many Racing Fuels..

Did you develope the site on "WHEELS".. If so,, Very .. I think I ran into it checking out links from here or MustangSteve's site..

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Don
'66 Fastback
302 with 5 speed
Royal Blue Metallic w/Ghost Flames

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/BigD.html
We Will Never Forget
Keep The Faith America

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kcode
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Posts: 2623
From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-09-2002 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome,
I do have a question for you relating to Swedens drag racing. Speed channel carries it occasionally. Relating to the USA 1/4 mile racing, what is the distance and units of time and speed. I get all confused while watching, I'm old and it doesn't take much to confuse me. Again welcome.

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Mike Golliver
MCA Gold Card Judge-Modifieds
65 Kcode coupe 347 stroker modified 5-speed MCA Retired
66 convertible-3 dueces and a 5-speed with a 289
89 T-Bird Super coupe
01 Mustang GT Convt

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Dave Gibson
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From: Norfolk, Virginia, USA M&M#166 MCA#47921
Registered: Aug 99

posted 10-09-2002 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M! Check out all the forums, post often and have a great time. Be warned that this web site is very addictive and we have a tendency to wander off from the original topic.

Dave & Terri

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Poison Ivy (Dave's)
'65 Fastback Modified 289 4V, C-4, dual exhaust, styled steel wheels, rally pac, A/C
'02 Explorer XLT, Black, 3.73:1 limited slip, class III tow package!

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H��an
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From: Rimbo, Sweden
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 10-09-2002 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for H¡¦an   Click Here to Email H¡¦an     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big D:

Thanks!
Yep, I�� the guy behind that wheels page. It started with that I wanted to check out my own ��tang with different wheels and then it got a little carried away...

I bought Weld Wheels Draglites for my ��7 last weekend, kind of a rescue mission since they were used on a ��8 Chevelle.
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kcode:

1/8 mile racing is also very common over here, but all the major events is over the 1/4 mile. Time is of course maesured the same way here as in the rest of the world but speed is measured in kilometers per hour. One Kilometer is 0.621371 Mile. A great place to convert measures of different kinds is this: http://www.onlineconversion.com

A couple of days ago I measured the nine-inch rearend on my Mustang together with my 8-year old son and I tried to explain how to measure using inches and fractions of inches and there you can talk about creating confusion, ha ha!

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H��an
Rimbo, Sweden
��7 coupe 289 EFI

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Big D
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From: WELLS, NEVADA
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posted 10-09-2002 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H��an,,

You're just full of good information.. The site on conversions is very useful.. I like the story of teaching your son.. We have the same problems.. It's not understanding one system or the other,, It's understanding the conversions..

I have sent the conversion site to several of my friends,, they are inthe Energy Business..

Don

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