Brought to you in part by:

.

Tools & Supplies by Eastwood

  Mustangsandmore Forums
  '79 to '93 -- The Fox Mustang & Capri
  Electrical Gremlins

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Electrical Gremlins
GTRocks
Gearhead

Posts: 1489
From: Lusby, MD, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-26-2001 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, yesterday it was my speakers. Today, my right turn signal. When I turn it on, they sound like they are flashing, but the green turn signal on the dash doesn't come on. I got out and the external lights are indeed flashing. The left turn signal works fine. Burned out dash bulb???

Sigh....

How the heck do you open this dash up?


Dave
'93 GT convertible
'66 Coupe

IP: Logged

Stewart
Moderator

Posts: 6904
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 09-26-2001 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it doesn't blink faster, correct? It's normal in every way, it's just the dash light that doesn't come on, right?

What happens when you activate your emergency flashers?

Stewart

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 09-26-2001 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the flashers are on a seperate circut stew. The turn signals run through the multi switch. Have you checked your fuses? Does your horn/cig lighter work? When did it start? Give me some info dude.....I can probably help you out.

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 09-27-2001 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I forgot....Opening the dash is a cinch. But kinda a pain in the keester. Here goes....the knee panel has to be removed first. Depening on your year, it will vary slightly. Ok, having just read your sig, here's what you do(shut up!). There are a series of screws/bolts along the bottom of the panel by teh pedals. You have to remove these first. once they aer out, just pull the panel, it's snapped in. There are two screws in the steering column cover....remove them. They cover the multi switch, and this is the first place you have to look. To get the rest of the dash off is also straight forward. There are two screws on top of teh gauge pod, and I believe 3 more along the bottom. One of these goes through a metal rod to help support everything. Before you pull it off though, you'll need to take both the head/fog light switch and the hazard/defrost switch out. You do this by way of a small flat head screwdriver. There are clips(2 per side) on the switch that you must depress while you pull. After you get them off just snake the pod cover out. Now you'll have a few screws to remove for the actual gauges, and then two wireing harnesses into the back of the gauge pod, and one spedo cable....not too hard. You can check the bulbs from there. If you need help, let me know.

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

Stewart
Moderator

Posts: 6904
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 09-27-2001 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FISHTAIL:
I think the flashers are on a seperate circut stew. The turn signals run through the multi switch.

I kinda thought they were on their own circuit, and that was one reason I asked him what happens when he activates his flashers...figuring if the dash light lit up with the flashers, then the gremlin would probably be in his multi-switch.

Heh...now it's time for me to post my problem!

Stewart

IP: Logged

GTRocks
Gearhead

Posts: 1489
From: Lusby, MD, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-08-2001 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry guys, I've been outta town for a while. I gets weirder still. On my way home, they started working again. Now it's a sporadic problem. I'd say 50/50. It's just the dash light that isn't coming on. I haven't check the emergency flashers, I'll do that. I'm guessing I have a loose wire to that bulb.

Question though....when you put your blinker on, which lights on the front of your car come on? Shouldn't the side corner light blink also? Mine doesn't. Just the one on the front of the car to the inside of the headlight comes on. Is that right?

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-08-2001 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that's right.....just the inside light blinks. All that ouside light does is glow....

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

GTRocks
Gearhead

Posts: 1489
From: Lusby, MD, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-09-2001 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that's good I guess. Gotta keep these Gremlins to a minimum.

Damned tranny is on its last leg. I've been milking it. I was running about 70-75 last night and it started a smoke screen on me. If you remember, I've got a blown OD position (clutch packs) and I want to get a T5 in there. I called my buddy that potentially has some free parts off of another buddy's donor car, and he's going into the hospital Friday for a growth in his lungs. Doctors think it might be lung cancer, so I'm the least of his problems. I felt guilty just calling him after I heard that news. Damn! Guy's only like 38 too.

IP: Logged

Stewart
Moderator

Posts: 6904
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 10-09-2001 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh man, that sucks! I hope everything turns out ok for your friend.

As for the tranny, yotta save up and get a Z spec T-5, and put some 4.10's in that rear-end!

Stewart

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-09-2001 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4.10's!? Damn stew you really don't fear the gear! LOL, i'm really happy with my 3.73's I'm not sure if I'd like 4.10's w/ the 5spd...but after the t-56 goes in...heh heh heh. Dave, If you need a trans I have a few suggestions. The first thing I would try is calling ELD, Excessive motorsports east and hp by herman. All of them are relatively local, and often have take out parts from customers cars. I got a tremec from a 93 cobra from hp by herman for 700 bucks. It had less than 15k on it, and it has a 3.35 first gear . If you don't have any luck on that front, I know a few local "parts dealers" who could probably find you a transmission relativly cheeply. I had two spares, but I sold them to cooper for 100 bucks. As far as the other nessisary parts go(that is the clutch/brake pedals, cable, quadrant etc..) your best bet is to get the parts from a donor car. If you try to pick them up individually your likely to miss something. I would call a junk yard as a last resort only. There are ads in mustang mags for conversion kits I would buy way before calling a yard. If you have any other questions feel free to email me. I have an open door emailing policy lol.

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

Stewart
Moderator

Posts: 6904
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 10-09-2001 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FISHTAIL:
4.10's!? Damn stew you really don't fear the gear! LOL, i'm really happy with my 3.73's I'm not sure if I'd like 4.10's w/ the 5spd...

T5 Z spec bud! 2.95 first, and a .63 final drive!! Oh yeah, aint no fear of the 4.10's here!!

Stewart

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-09-2001 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't remeber for certian, but I dont think my final drive is very far from a .63...going with 4.10's would realy depend on the kind of driving you do. I mainly stick to hwy driving, and I'm almost positive that dave doesn't have a choice there either(there are no citys down here ). The only cars I've ridden in with more gear than 3.73 have been cobras with 4.30's and 4.56's. They do fine, but they also have a much larger range to play with on the tach. Which gears are you running? 3.55's?

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

GTRocks
Gearhead

Posts: 1489
From: Lusby, MD, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-10-2001 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GTRocks   Click Here to Email GTRocks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually have the tranny. That's one of the few things I do have. I need about everything else. I have a donor car in mind, but I have to set up a time to go see it. Hopefully it'll be one stop shopping. I'll let you know if there are any parts that I do need. Trouble is just getting together with this guy. I'm keeping my eye on the local paper for donor stuff, but no luck yet.

Mike is right, there are no cities down here. I go about 15 miles to work and there are 8 lights, and they are timed so you really only hit about 3 red. I'm thinking of 3.73's down the road, but first things first.

I have been saving to repaint my '66. I really don't want to dip into that money, but I may have to in the end. We'll see.

IP: Logged

Stewart
Moderator

Posts: 6904
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 10-10-2001 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FISHTAIL:
I don't remeber for certain, but I dont think my final drive is very far from a .63...

I would bet your 5th gear is probably .68. Unless I'm mistaken, all stock T5's except the T5-Z has a .68 final drive. Not a big difference from .63, but it's a little diffence. And it's that little bit that won me over from 3.73's to 4.10's.

Right now I'm running with stock 3.08's.

Stewart

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-10-2001 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did I type .63? Ugh.....I can't read the print on the sun machines sometimes...I couldn't tell if you had a .68 or a .63 down. All I know is that all of the ratios in my trans are the same as a stock t-5 except for first which is a 3.35 compared to a 2.95 I believe? with the 3.73's in the rear my car is pushing 2200rpm at 65mph. I wouldn't want the extra revs from the 4.10's. Man..3.08's...I don't know why I thought you have 3.55's in the back. Your car flies for the gears that are in it...just wait till you give her some more to play with. Your not going to know what to do with yourself

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

Stewart
Moderator

Posts: 6904
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 10-10-2001 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure that only the T5Z has the 2.95 first. All the other stock, non-custom T5's are 3.35 ratio. That's another reason I like the Z spec tranny.

I looked into the 6 speed tranny's, but the final gear ratio wasn't any better than the Z spec, and they cost tons more.

Besides, I want to drop an E cam in and from what I've been reading, an E cam responds better to 4.10's when powering through third and fourth gears, as opposed to 3.73's.

Stewart

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-11-2001 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I"m going to have to put some learning time in on gear ratios on transmissions. I had a zspec in the car before this and it died. I noticed a huge difference going to the tremec, since first gear winds out really fast. I figured it was another step up... As I told you last night though, I understand why you want the 4.10's now...cams to tend to rob the car of low end and the 4.10's should make up for that with nooo problem .

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

I65Stang
Moderator

Posts: 3811
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-11-2001 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, this sure did change topics didnt it? When my AOD blows I think I am just gonna replace it with a build C4, screw overdrive .

------------------
Tim

M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
http://all.at/mustang
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-11-2001 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It did? What kinda trans do you have? Last time I checked my transmission and rear gear controlled every electrical system in the car. I think your mistaken mr, there has been no change of subject here .

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.stangbirds.com

IP: Logged

I65Stang
Moderator

Posts: 3811
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 10-13-2001 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I65Stang   Click Here to Email I65Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, I dont remember that being on the A6 (electrical/electronics) ASE tests .

------------------
Tim

M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
http://all.at/mustang
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html

IP: Logged

FISHTAIL
Gearhead

Posts: 310
From: Waldorf MD USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-15-2001 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FISHTAIL   Click Here to Email FISHTAIL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm....that's weird, I remember it being on mine. Maybe that would explain a few things? LOL

------------------
-FISHTAIL
92GT "The Ghetto Sled"
CMPS major @ University of MD college park
Best ET/MPH thus far: 14.40/100.67mph....damn wheel spin.
VP and co-founder of CMTC www.cmntc.com

IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Mustangsandmore Front Page

Copyright 2001, Steve LaRiviere


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47d

Amazon Honor System Click Here to Pay Learn More

[About M&M][Acronym Guide][Calendar of Events][Chat Room][Classified Ads] [Links]

[Members' Photos] [Restoration Info][Tech Tips] [ Technical Articles][Ford Technical Data

[ Mustangsandmore.com Bookstore] [Advertise on Mustangsandmore.com] [Mustangsandmore.com T-Shirts]