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Topic: Good ol' tire question...
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-27-2001 03:04 PM
   
I need to get some new tires for the '88 for street driving. I have heard 245/50r15s and 245/60r15s are the widest you can go with turbines and no rubbing. I dont know how stupid the 50 series will look with a stock suspension, anyone ever seen any on a stock car? I think the taller sidewall of the 60 may look better.Now I also need to decide what tires, I want something cheapish that lasts a while. Anyone ever used the Radial T/As? I know my best bet would be a set of Michelins but they are pretty pricey. I wont need these for the track as I have a spare set of rims waiting for some M/T street slicks  . These will be strictly street tires and the worst we get here is some rain in the winter . I know what I would recommend when I use to work at Sears but what do you all run and recommend? Thanks. ------------------
Tim
M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 ci w/ a Holley 2300, Clifford header, and true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, totally stock for now, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% bone stock with no traction
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wythors
Gearhead Posts: 2408
From: Ferrari of Seattle. HOW 'BOUT THOSE MARINERS?!?!?
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 05-27-2001 03:23 PM
If I remember correctly, the OE tire size on your car is 225/60VR15. A 245/50 is going to be a full inch shorter than the correct size and a 245/60 will be an inch taller. Either tire is going to play havoc with your speedometer reading unless you change the drive gear. That, IMHO, is much more trouble than it's worth. Why don't ya look around for some used 16" Pony rims and upgrade the whole thing? I've seen 'em for a couple of hundred bucks around here.Dave
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-27-2001 03:34 PM
Good point Dave, I wasnt even thinking about the speedo . I think I may just stick with the stock size as like I said, they wont be used for racing. Plus the stock size are nice and cheap . As for another set of rims (lol, my parents would love 6 turbines on the side of the house :>), the '88 is far from a show car and looks isnt the purpose for it (money for looks takes away from money for power) . People around here think the 16" Pony's are gold, we have a LOT of 5.0 owners around here that I dont want to be associated (I cant stand them). Thus, I am ordering a "My other car is a classic Mustang" sticker .------------------
Tim
M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 ci w/ a Holley 2300, Clifford header, and true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, totally stock for now, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% bone stock with no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, everyone needs more toys
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ragtopjr
Gearhead Posts: 1859
From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 05-28-2001 12:37 AM
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65Cyclone
Gearhead Posts: 205
From: Orlando,FL
Registered: Sep 99
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posted 05-28-2001 07:33 AM
Im running 255/60's on my stock turbines in the rear, without any probs.------------------
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Gearhead
Gearhead Posts: 1156
From: Look up... waaaaay up!! No, no, no... not that far.
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-28-2001 02:11 PM
I ran 245/50 ZR15s (BFGs) on my 89 GT with the turbines and had no rubbing problem at all. The speedo was off a tiny bit due to the height change, but it wasn't enough to cause any problems or require a speedo gear change (IMHO). I was very happy with the tire combo.Here's a pic of the car with those tires (not the best, but it'll give you an idea). Oh yeah, the suspension on the car was completely stock otherwise.
http://79indypace.stangnet.com/cgi-bin/i/images/my89gt.jpg ------------------
Cheers,
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DidgeyTrucker
Gearhead Posts: 496
From: Nashville, TN USA
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 05-29-2001 12:38 PM
I've got the 15x7 10 hole wheels on my '88 and I have 245/60-15 T/A radials. The fronts rub on sharp turns, but that's only in parking lots at parking lot speeds. These fat tires look AWESOME.Tracy ------------------
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jimb
Gearhead Posts: 134
From: s. holland, il usa
Registered: Nov 99
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posted 05-30-2001 03:38 PM
That size tire is wider then recomended by most MFGs. A 235/50 or 235/60 would fit better and work better. I would bet the edges or corners of the tire tread of the 245's curve up from being mounted on to narrow a rim.
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Stewart
Moderator Posts: 6748
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 05-30-2001 05:52 PM
I have 245/45/16's without any rubbing. Speedo is off by 4MPH though because the tire is a smaller diameter.But that's okay...it helps me keep my speed down. Stewart
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-06-2001 08:11 PM
Thanks guys, I am thinking of going with 235/60R15 or 235/50R15 Radial T/As as it would mess less with the speedo and definitely fit on the rim but I am still not sure. I am not sure about running a 245 on a 7" rim. Do any of you guys have wear problems or do they look bubbled out? The 245/50R15s are not common so I think the 245/60R15s would be the choice if 245 is used. I know my '86 5.0 had 235s on the 10 holes. Sooo... 245 or 235 and if 235 then 50 or 60 (my tires are gonna be pretty bad soon :>)? Thanks again guys!------------------
Tim
M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 ci w/ a Holley 2300, Clifford header, and true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, totally stock for now, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% bone stock with no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, everyone needs more toys
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 2963
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 06-06-2001 09:23 PM
Tim,You need a pair of "skinnies" on the front! Can't you use the "space saver" spare rims for skinnies? Not for everyday driving of course, for that just get the cheapest tires with a good wear rating 350+. Good luck, and we'll see you at Sac Raceway in a few weeks, most likely. SteveW
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Gearhead
Gearhead Posts: 1156
From: Look up... waaaaay up!! No, no, no... not that far.
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 06-07-2001 11:23 AM
Hey Tim, I'm putting a set of 235/60R15 BFG Radial TAs on a set of turbines this weekend for my 79. I'll let you know how they look once I have them on the car Saturday.  ------------------
Cheers,
Ian
M&M Member #395
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-09-2001 11:08 AM
Please do Ian .------------------
Tim
M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 ci w/ a Holley 2300, Clifford header, and true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, totally stock for now, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% bone stock with no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, everyone needs more toys
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Gearhead
Gearhead Posts: 1156
From: Look up... waaaaay up!! No, no, no... not that far.
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 06-10-2001 11:58 PM
Ok Tim here's my first impressions... nice tires!! The BFGs look great and ride really smooth. The traction is light years ahead of my old TRX tires, that's for sure. As for fit I find that the 235/60R15 fill up the wheelwells nicely, and look well matched to the turbine rims. I am getting slight interference between the front wheels and the ground effects at the front of the wheel arch at full lock. The rub is slight, and only seems to happen at near-full lock at low speeds. I am going to trim the ground effects piece and that should take care of it.Now, as a note on this the 79 Pace car (and 82 GT) ground effects intrude into the wheel arch about 1/2" when compared to a non-ground effects equiped car. I am pretty sure that these older ground effects intrude much more than the 87-93 GT effects. I would be surprised if the later models had any rubbing of this manner with the 235/60R15 tires. LIke I said, it's only going to take a bit of minor trimming to eliminate the rubbing that I have, so I don't see it as a problem at all. There is no rubbing at all with the rear wheels, even under heavy load (2 people in the rear seats). There ya go... a happy customer here!! Drop me a line if you have any questions reagrding this tire/rim combo and how it has workedout on my car ok. Keep us posted on what your decision is!! Cheers,
Ian
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-07-2001 11:11 PM
I just realized I never thanked you Ian! Thanks! Looks like I am going to go with 255/60R15s in the rear and 225/60R15s in the front (Radial T/As). The 255 fit a 6.5-10" rim accoarding to BFGoodrich so it will work on stock turbines. I need the taller tire for when I install the 4.10 gears plus wider is better right? ------------------
Tim
M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 ci w/ a Holley 2300, Clifford header, and true duals w/ 26" Smithys, for showin'
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, totally stock for now, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% bone stock with no traction, for goin'
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, everyone needs more toys
and need a truck for towin'
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-11-2001 10:06 PM
Well I ordered the tires and should have them early next week .------------------
Tim
M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 ci w/ a Holley 2300, Clifford header, and true duals w/ 26" Smithys, for showin'
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, totally stock for now, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% bone stock with no traction, for goin'
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, everyone needs more toys
and need a truck for towin'
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-13-2001 09:44 PM
Well the tires (and gears actually) came in today . The 255/60s look cool, cant wait til they are installed .------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction, 4.10s being installed
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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Gearhead
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From: Look up... waaaaay up!! No, no, no... not that far.
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-17-2001 12:09 PM
Now I wish that I had gotten 255/60's for the back with my car!! Very  Tim!I've been really happy with my BFG Radial TAs so far. ------------------
Cheers,
Ian
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-15-2001 12:41 AM
Just got back from having my buddy install the new tires and man oh man are those 255/60's beautiful!!! Major contrast between them and the 225s in the rear. When he was putting them on he asked me "are you sure these wont rub?" and once down on the ground and driving away he said "those are some big tires!" I love it!!! I'll try to get some pics tomorrow during the day ------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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GTRocks
Gearhead Posts: 1429
From: Lusby, MD, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-10-2001 11:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by I65Stang:
I'll try to get some pics tomorrow during the day
Ahem...........
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-10-2001 11:47 AM
Lol, oops . Ok, I will try and get some pics between classes today but if not today then 100% for sure tomorrow .------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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Stewart
Moderator Posts: 6748
From: Monterey, CA Mustangsandmore Member #437
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-10-2001 11:48 AM
Yeah!
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 3677
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-11-2001 01:01 AM
Ok, not the best but the will do (no, the side by side is not to scale) . The suspension is 100% stock.   ------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/I65Stang.html [This message has been edited by I65Stang (edited 09-11-2001).]
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