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IIGood
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posted 06-11-2003 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood   Click Here to Email IIGood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I caught the new commercial last night for the Chebby Impala, and couldn't help but think the soundtrack for it was just so wrong. The classic "409" was playing...you know, "Giddyup, giddyup Four-oh-nine...nothing can catch her, nothing can stop my 409, 409.."

I mean, seriously!! Playing a song that talks about a PONTIAC engine first off, and a much, much BIGGER engine than that Impala's got?? Sheesh! I guess that's GM for you though.

Granted, they did say it was supercharged, but still. What was funny was, it starts by the guy driving along with his wife in the car, then announcer mentions the supercharger...the guy looks in his rear view mirror and sees a Caprice cop car with it's lights on behind him...the guy gets a look like he'll take off, but instead he just eases up, and the cop goes by. The guy looks relieved.

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Fastymz
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posted 06-11-2003 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frank my skinny friend
Chevy knows the IQ of their customers.

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Dad Vishus
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posted 06-11-2003 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pontiac motor?

I thought the 409 was a direct decendent of the 348 and 360. They started out as truck motors, or so I was lead to believe. 409s ran like raped apes..........for a while.

Then BANG!!

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posted 06-11-2003 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to say it, but the commercial used the correct song... the 409 was a Chev big block engine and one of the most sought after of all Chebby Impalas from its introduction for the SS in 1961 to its demise in 1965 at the hands of the 396 and Chev 427. Ponchos had the 389, then the 421, then the 428. And, no, I've not sold out to the other guys--I just want us to know what we are arguing (and racing) against.

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posted 06-11-2003 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 409 being a chevy motor is not the part I think is wrong.
It's using the 409 image on that new Impala thats so wrong.

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posted 06-11-2003 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IIGood   Click Here to Email IIGood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My fault...I'm not up on my General Moron engines. For some reason, I thought the 409 was in GTOs and was a Pontiac engine.

But still, comparing the 409 to a new Impala? Jeeeeeez.

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posted 06-11-2003 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornInAFord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd rather have a hot 409 in an old Impala than a supercharged wannabe in a new Impala. The lesser of poisons--at least I could enjoy my last few moments... Only the name has been revived. BUT, it's the name that sells to a forgetful public.

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posted 06-11-2003 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always laugh at ANY Impala. I mean isn't that the critter on Wild Kingdom when I was a kid that jumped and ran and the Jaguar ran him down and ate him while Marlin Perkins droned on about mother nature and survival of the fittest? 409 or not I just can't bring myself to respect something that could have easily been named "Gazzelle" gimme a break

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posted 06-12-2003 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule   Click Here to Email BlueMule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Frank my skinny friend
Chevy knows the IQ of their customers.


Yeah, on the same level as the dope in the Slopar, Hemi-roid commercial.

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posted 06-12-2003 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a rather silly comparison. The old 409 was the original "Rat" motor, or the 348 was, and they ran real hard. To compare that with a new front wheel drive family sedan of today is like comparing a Vulcan 20mm cannon to a BB gun.

KVs sister has an old 4 banger Probe that she drives to work and they have a late model Impala for the family car. I've ridden in the Impala several times and quite frankly, its a pretty nice car. She does complain, however, that the Impala doesn't accelerate on ramps, etc. as well as the 4 cyl. Probe. She drives 25 miles or so every day in Tampa traffic to work and its made her into a bit of a maniac behind the wheel. I guess big city traffic does that. She runs the bejesus out of that poor old Probe that has way over 100K on it.

I guess Chebbie has to try about anything to sell cars.

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posted 06-12-2003 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
409 was part of the Chebbie "W" engine program from 1958 to 1965.
348, 409, and largest incarnation of 427 cubes in the 63-64 Z-11.
It was so named for the scalloped "W" shape of the cylinder heads.
HP ratings ranged from 250 to 430.

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posted 06-12-2003 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Local guy with a real nice Impala with 409 and 4 speed, the valve covers are beat all to heck,from the inside out. I asked him what happenned to them and he said they were on the last motor when it blew chunks, rockers and pushrods were trying to escape. Said he keeps them on the car as a reminder not to rip on it too hard.

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posted 06-12-2003 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grandestang   Click Here to Email grandestang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jsracingbbf:
I always laugh at ANY Impala. I mean isn't that the critter on Wild Kingdom when I was a kid that jumped and ran and the Jaguar ran him down and ate him while Marlin Perkins droned on about mother nature and survival of the fittest? 409 or not I just can't bring myself to respect something that could have easily been named "Gazzelle" gimme a break

not a bowtie guy
JS


I'm not a Chevy guy by any means but the 94-96 Impala's were just awesome cars. A torqy as hell LT1 with Corvette suspension to boot, I wouldn't be sooo confident pulling up to one of those.

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posted 06-12-2003 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the way the engines run I just think the impala name was silly, I'm sure somebody somewhere thinks the same about mustangs.
Alex, cool info, I didn't know why the chebbie folks always refered to them as "W" engines.
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posted 06-12-2003 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by grandestang:
I'm not a Chevy guy by any means but the 94-96 Impala's were just awesome cars. A torqy as hell LT1 with Corvette suspension to boot, I wouldn't be sooo confident pulling up to one of those.



Guy here at work has one, he says it pulls pretty strong. Definately seems to be a strong puller.
I'll be sure to be on the look out for them at the track, thanks for the heads up.
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