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scorpian
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posted 12-11-2001 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpian   Click Here to Email scorpian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i saw an ad today for a 69 428 cobra jet for 2000.00 dollars. is this a good price. also what are the tell tell signs of this being a 428 cobra jet. any markings of some sort? thanks, mike

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kcode
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posted 12-11-2001 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike,
Are you sure there wasn't another 0 in the price? Look for the fifth diget in the serial number if its a Q or R the car was a 428 car. Any other letters and it is a transplant. Which isn't all bad either. Depends on what you want. To answer your question, $2000 is cheap, but what was the rest of the car like? Call'em and go look at it.

Mike

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Stewart
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posted 12-11-2001 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet it's just for the engine alone. No car.

Stewart

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scorpian
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posted 12-12-2001 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpian   Click Here to Email scorpian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
engine alone. sorry to miss lead you guys. i called the guy anyway and it is sold. but he does have another 69 428 cj for 3500.00. all original from carb to oilpan, if anyone is interested.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 12-12-2001 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the engine is all together, you will want to check for casting numbers. The heads should be C8OE-6090-N, the #`s are located on the exhaust flange of the heads, between the 2 center exh ports.The CJ heads use 4 bolts around each exh. port. The stock CJ intake should be C8OE-C, which is on the top of the intake, behind the carb flange.There were several different #`s for the OE 735 Holley carbs, depending on stick or auto trans, as well as if it was a Mustang/Cougar, or Fairlane/Torino/Cyclone engine. It should have the cast iron CJ exh manifolds, C8OE-D(L), C8OE-B(R). There should be a metal windage tray between the block & oil pan,& if the engine is from an auto trans car, the flex plate should have a fairly large weight welded to it, A 4 speed flywheel will have a "pie slice" shaped counterweight cast into it.If the oil pan is off, you will want to check for #`s on the #7 crank counterweight. Non CJ 428`s are stamped 1U, CJ`s are 1UB, & Super CJ`s are 1UA. The SCJ will also have capscrew "LeMans" rods, while std. CJ`s have a conventional nut&bolt rod, but take an oddball 19/32"`s socket to remove the nuts.CJ & non CJ 428`s use the same basic rod forging, #C7AE-B, but the non CJ used 3/8`s bolts, which use a 9/16`s socket.A unbored 428 will have a 4.13" bore.Hope this helps.

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