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Topic: M\T drag radials
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-28-2005 03:21 PM
 
thinking of getting M\T drag radials for my 69 mach, anybody have them for street car some strip, pros\ cons, 275-60-15 is the size.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 04-28-2005 04:19 PM
A buddy of mine put a set on his fairly soft suspended 1969 camaro... and pulled the front wheels to 1.4 second 60fts and 10 second 1/4 mile times. They also hooked up GREAT on the street. They were 275/60/15 just like the ones you are looking at. I don't know how well they work with shock loads, but I sure was impressed with them in his car! He could punch the throttle from a very slow roll ON THE STREET and not spin them. He practically left my head in the back seat when he nailed it in first gear while I wasn't paying attention! (no headrests)  I made a post about them a couple weeks ago. ------------------
Mike Burch
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 04-28-2005 04:30 PM
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-28-2005 07:11 PM
thanks mike.
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Stephen & Horace Johnson
Gearhead Posts: 275
From: Gadsden, AL
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 04-29-2005 12:23 AM
I am goin to purchase set of them myself next wk------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2005 01:35 PM
I'm saving up for a pair too. Not sure if the 275-50-15 will fit on my 65. If not then I'll go with the 235-60-15.------------------
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-29-2005 02:58 PM
COOL THANKS GUYS SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE POPULAR, SHOULD LOOK COOL ON MY MACH1 WITH THE WARRIOR WHEELS.
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 6376
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 05-01-2005 02:10 AM
Scoop
A chick at the track today had 235/60-15 MT drag radials on her 66 coupe, they fit but hardly any spare room, no way you'd get a 275 without some major banging
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64coupe
Gearhead Posts: 173
From: Bristol, PA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 05-01-2005 02:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
Scoop
A chick at the track today had 235/60-15 MT drag radials on her 66 coupe, they fit but hardly any spare room, no way you'd get a 275 without some major banging
yea 235/60 are like the max on a stock suspension 65 thats what i have
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-01-2005 02:17 PM
Will the 15x8" rims with 4.5" back spacing be to wide for the 235-60-15 MT tires?
I was hoping to get alittle more tire under there. I've always liked the looks of wide rear tires.  ------------------
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-01-2005 03:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
Scoop
A chick at the track today had 235/60-15 MT drag radials on her 66 coupe, they fit but hardly any spare room, no way you'd get a 275 without some major banging
A 67/68 has more rear tire room than a 66. I don't know about stuffing a 275 in there... but there's a little more space. ------------------
Mike Burch
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-01-2005 04:03 PM
Here's the size difference between the two tires.
Also I see they used an 8" rim on the 235's so I should be fine too? P235/60R15 rim 8.0" 26x9.50R15 total 9.5 tread 8.0 26.0 P275/50R15 rim 10.0 26x11.50R15 total 11.3 tread 10.0 26.0
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-01-2005 05:35 PM
A 15x7 rim with a 4.5" backspace is about all you are going to fit under the 1966 quarter panel at stock ride height.The 235/60/15 will fit the 65-66 just fine. I don't know what all will fit under a 67, but it's a little larger than the 66. ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-01-2005 06:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by n2oMike:
A 15x7 rim with a 4.5" backspace is about all you are going to fit under the 1966 quarter panel at stock ride height.The 235/60/15 will fit the 65-66 just fine. I don't know what all will fit under a 67, but it's a little larger than the 66.
Dang! I was told a 15x8 with 4.5" back spacing would fit the best? I now have a 14x7 with a 4.25" back spacing with 235-60-14 fits real good. I don't have stock ride height my car sits alittle higher in the rear. ------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-02-2005 01:35 AM
Sorry!------------------
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-02-2005 06:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Sorry!
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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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bud4660
Gearhead Posts: 542
From: Mesquite, Tx. M&M #2925
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-02-2005 09:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
I've always liked the looks of wide rear tires.
So you have a picture of mine as your screen saver then....  http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/500/1257867_rear-thumb.jpg http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/500/1257867PSRr-thumb.jpg
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-02-2005 12:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by n2oMike:
I posted the wrong tire size last night. I made an edit before ay could see it. I thought they made a 255-50-15 but it's a 16" rim. Bud, I sure do ------------------
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goldenbob
Journeyman Posts: 89
From: medford, or., United States
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 05-03-2005 10:24 PM
I squeeeeezed a pair of 275/40/17's under the rear of my 67 coupe. They would rub a little with a passenger in the back seat when I launched it (on the street), so I trimmed the lip of the fender a litle with a die grinder. Now they dont rub at all and they look "huge" from behind...
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Stephen & Horace Johnson
Gearhead Posts: 275
From: Gadsden, AL
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 05-18-2005 12:23 AM
I got a set of M/T radials.. 275-50-15s in today, and I will test them Friday nite at steele, hopefully they will hook well enough for me to race in the headsup race at Montgomery Saturday...------------------
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iskwezm
Journeyman Posts: 75
From: Rowland Heights,Ca
Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 05-18-2005 01:22 AM
I have 275/40/17's on a 17X8 Torq Thrust II's on my 65' fastback with a 1 1/2 drop.They fit pretty good,and I still have about 1 inch on the inside next to the leafs and they sit inside the fender lip.I just bought them with a Kumho Ecsta 712 and theought they would hook,they spin like crazy under power  I wish I would have got the M/T's [This message has been edited by iskwezm (edited 05-18-2005).]
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-18-2005 07:01 PM
well got the M\T drag radials on today with the warrior wheels looks nice, big ass tires ill tell you that, might have a problem again over big dips with these bad boys even with the 4-1\2 BS its still tight back there, might have to grind down the wheel lips a bit to get more room, pictures coming soon.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-18-2005 08:34 PM
Did you use a 7" or 8" wheel?------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-18-2005 08:58 PM
8'' mike dont know why i did that but i might have to sell these and get 7'' rims for the back, not much room to spare and i dont want to drive it to far and hit a big bump because they are going to hit hard, back to the drawing board.
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iskwezm
Journeyman Posts: 75
From: Rowland Heights,Ca
Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 05-18-2005 10:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stroker man:
8'' mike dont know why i did that but i might have to sell these and get 7'' rims for the back, not much room to spare and i dont want to drive it to far and hit a big bump because they are going to hit hard, back to the drawing board.
a 4 3/4 would have probably worked beter??
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-19-2005 06:16 AM
THEY ONLY COME IN 4-1\2 FOR THE 8'' RIM AND THE 7'' COME WITH 5'' BS WHICH I SHOULD OF GOT.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-19-2005 06:55 AM
Hmmm... So you doubted me when I told you a 235/60/15 on a 15x7 wheel with a 4-1/2" backspace was all that would fit... Been there, done that. Before you go off an order a 5" backspace, you'll need to look at the clearance towards the inside. The tire should be coming close to the front inner wheelhouse and springs right now. Remember, the 8" wheel with the 4-1/2" backspace shifts the tire toward the outside by an inch. The 7" wheel, even with the same 4-1/2" backspace will push more of the tire to the inside. I seriously doubt you'll fit a 15x7 wheel on there with a 5" backspace. The existing tires should fit fine with the existing recommended wheels. If you have to do any clearancing, it should only be minor. Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-19-2005 12:51 PM
THANKS MIKE IM DOING THAT RIGHT NOW AS I SPEAK TOOK OFF THE TIRE AND CHROME WHEEL OPENING, HAVE TO GRIND DOWN ABOUT LESS THEN 1\2 INCH AT THE VERY TOP LIP ABOUT A FT LONG TO GET THESE WHEELS TO FIT, HOPE I DONT **** IT UP.
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mainer
Gearhead Posts: 168
From: Bryant Pond, Maine
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 05-19-2005 01:53 PM
Can't speak to the 69 wheel well but on my 68 I have 15x10 welds with 5.5 bs and 275-50-15 mt's. I have 5/8" of an inch to the spring. I had to gring the bump stop and very slight massage on the front inner fender for fit. Here's a pic:  don ------------------
68 Mustang Coupe
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iskwezm
Journeyman Posts: 75
From: Rowland Heights,Ca
Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 05-19-2005 03:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mainer:
Can't speak to the 69 wheel well but on my 68 I have 15x10 welds with 5.5 bs and 275-50-15 mt's. I have 5/8" of an inch to the spring. I had to gring the bump stop and very slight massage on the front inner fender for fit. Here's a pic:
don
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-19-2005 03:33 PM
This post has been here a while... I just noticed again that you've got a 69 mustang. A 235/60/15 on a 15x7 wheel with a 4-1/2" back space is all that will fit on a 66 without any mods.I referred to this earlier, but your 69 should handle a tire that is quite a bit larger. I guess I should pay better attention and go back and re-read the details when older posts come back up. Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 404
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-19-2005 04:43 PM
THATS OK MIKE ILL FORGIVE YA, I TOOK OFF THE WHEELS AND DID SOME CUTTING, WHAT I DID WAS SLICE 1\2 INCH OR LESS UNDER MY WHEEL WELLS UP TOP WHERE I THINK ITS HITTING AND MADE 3 OR 4 OF THESE CUTS THEN I FOLDED THEM OUTWARD AND CUT THEM OFF ONE AT A TIME, WASNT FUN I CAN TELL YOU THAT, SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT WORK THEN I DID THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL, PRETTY CLOSE STILL BUT I MIGHT HAVE JUST ENOUGH, TEST AND TUNE COMING SOON, HAVE TO FIND A NICE BUMP AND CROSS MY FINGERS
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-20-2005 06:36 PM
Mike, so my 15x8 with 4.5" back spacing aren't going to fit my 65?------------------
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 3058
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-20-2005 09:07 PM
The tires will rub the quarter panel when you hit bumps or have much of a load. A 15x7 wheel will tuck the tire under the quarter panel better.You never know though... You could get lucky. There was a lot of 'variance' in these cars as they were assembled. You could get lucky, but I wouldn't count on it. It will also depend upon how high the back of your car sits and how stiff the springs are. Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-21-2005 02:05 PM
Mike, I'm staying with 26" tall tires. My car does sit kinda high in the rear, and my springs are real stiff. All thats fine but I like the look of the rears tucked in better.  ------------------
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matt d
Journeyman Posts: 58
From: Coventry, CT USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 05-21-2005 09:04 PM
I just put some 235/60 - R15 MT Drag radials on the back of my '66 last night. My BFG drag radials were toast. I am using 15x7 wheels with a 3.75" backspace (Torque Thrust IIs). They fit but will rub when I hit a big bump. I have rolled my fender lips. More backspace would be better.As for the tires....damn. I have been trying them out all day today. They seem to hook a lot better than the BFGs in the same size. It is a lot harder to get these to spin. I also noticed they seem a lot heavier than the BFGs for whatever reason. I'll see how well they do at the track soon... -Matt ------------------
66 coupe with: 351W, Comp Cams XE274R solid roller cam, Fox Lake Stage 2 Trickflow heads, Performer RPM intake, 750 DP carb, Tremec TKO, 9" rear w/ 3.70s and a True-Trac limited slip
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-21-2005 09:11 PM
Matt, does it seem like enough grip or would a bigger tire be better?
Were your old BFG drags the same size?------------------
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V-8
Gearhead Posts: 324
From: TURKEY/Istanbul
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 05-22-2005 05:42 PM
What must be the tire pressures for 275/50/15 drag radials?__________________
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matt d
Journeyman Posts: 58
From: Coventry, CT USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 05-23-2005 12:23 PM
Fastymz- I don't know yet if it will be enough grip. In street setup (stiff springs and shocks, 30 psi in the tires) they are harder to spin than BFG drag radials of the same size. As far as with a drag suspension and less prssure in the tires, I will know soon. As for fitting a bigger tire, I wish. A 275/60 R15 would not fit my '66 without frames mods, unless they stuck way out on each side and I limited the suspension travel so they would not rub. I don't think that is a good option for a combo street/strip car.
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-23-2005 01:17 PM
Thanks Matt, thats the info I was looking for.
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