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Ken
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posted 03-02-2004 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Besides the different size of the weight thats cast into the flywheel, what difference (if any) would there be in total weight between a early 289ci-28oz flywheel and a later 302ci-50oz one ???

Should these two flywheels be almost identical (within 3 ounces) in weight

TIA

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-02-2004 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Balance and style of the flywheel has no relationship.
You can have a 8 inch flywheel that has a 50 oz balance as well as a 11 inch flywheel.
The balance is the amount of weight that is hung on the ends of the crankshaft to keep it running smooth and vibration free.
You have a 50 oz flywheel Ken.
I'm not sure about your balancer as I have not seen it.
Did you ever check and see if the pressure plate was installed parrallel with the weight of the flywheel?

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Ken
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posted 03-02-2004 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Balance and style of the flywheel has no relationship. You can have a 8 inch flywheel that has a 50 oz balance as well as a 11 inch flywheel. The balance is the amount of weight that is hung on the ends of the crankshaft to keep it running smooth and vibration free.
You have a 50 oz flywheel Ken.
Did you ever check and see if the pressure plate was installed parrallel with the weight of the flywheel?

I believed you when you confirmed that it was in fact a 50ouncer Alex. I would NEVER, EVER doubt you in the first place. Please forgive me if I was misunderstood
I was just curious as to whether or not the two flywheels should weigh the same ??
As far as the pressure plate being lined up with the flywheel, are you referring to the weights on each of them ??

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Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
Roller Cam - Duration 282'/282' @ 050 220'/220' lift 0.512
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
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Moneymaker
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posted 03-02-2004 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes on the weights Ken.
They should be matched up when you bolt on the pressure plate. That is the most common source of vibration that I encounter on a 5.0 based combo.

Flywheel weight is dependent on several specifics.
IE: Material, clutch diameter, and ring gear style. All of that, coupled with the amount of weight added or subtracted that is neccesary to achive proper balance, will give you the overall weight.
SO to answer your question, no the two flywheels you own do not have to be even close in overall weight.
OK?

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Alex Denysenko
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Ken
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posted 03-02-2004 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for clearing that up for me Alex .

So pal, do you happen to carry FORD 10.5" 50oz cast iron flywheels ???

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Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
Roller Cam - Duration 282'/282' @ 050 220'/220' lift 0.512
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 34000 original miles - 5spd - Coupe

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-02-2004 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may have a used OE (stock Mustang 5.0) flywheel laying around Ken.
Want me to look?

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Alex Denysenko
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IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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Ken
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posted 03-02-2004 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I may have a used OE (stock Mustang 5.0) flywheel laying around Ken.
Want me to look?

Hang on a bit Alex. I'm going to take this flywheel to a very reputable shop here tomorrow to have the balance checked out (I guess thats what you'd say) and if they say everythings alright with it then I'll just have it resurfaced and put it back in. I'll let you know Definately putting in a new clutch though !!!

Do the finger clutches with have a visible weight on them because I can't see any

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What makes men chase women they have no intention of marrying?
The same urge that makes dogs chase cars they have no intention of driving.

Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
Roller Cam - Duration 282'/282' @ 050 220'/220' lift 0.512
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 34000 original miles - 5spd - Coupe

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bifs66
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posted 03-02-2004 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bifs66   Click Here to Email bifs66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken,
How you doing these days? Ford Carlisle is only about four months away!
I have the 50 oz flywheel (Centerforce rebalanced to 28 oz) in the Fastback; and also installed the Centerforce 10.5" diaphram clutch.
I have a question after reading this thread...what did Alex mean by..
"Did you ever check and see if the pressure plate was installed parrallel with the weight of the flywheel?". I don't remember doing anything special other than bolting the pressure plate/clutch on. Are there other things to take into consideration?
Bernie

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Ken
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posted 03-02-2004 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Bernie, hows it going ?? Check out this thread and see if it answers you question:
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011227.html

I anxiously await the All Ford National Show at Carlisle. We're even staying an extra night this year.....SEE YOU THERE PAL !!!

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What makes men chase women they have no intention of marrying?
The same urge that makes dogs chase cars they have no intention of driving.

Ken
1965 Springtime Yellow Coupe - 302GT40-4spd
Edlebrock RPM Air Gap - 670cfm Holley Street Avenger
Roller Cam - Duration 282'/282' @ 050 220'/220' lift 0.512
and much, MUCH MORE !!!
My 1965 (aka RUMBLE BEE) Photo Page
1995 5.0 Laser Red - 34000 original miles - 5spd - Coupe

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-02-2004 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weight is on the cover assembly.

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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28

The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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