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Topic: T-5 Shifter?
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1580
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 11-04-2003 09:33 PM
   
I'm in the process of trying to find a nice looking shifter for my 65 mustang. Unfortuantly everyone seems to prefer a shorthrow over just a nice long handled shifter. So I'm stuck, the closest thing I can find is a Hurst #538 0036. But it's still a short shifter. Does anyone know who might make a nice classic muscle car looking shifter that will fit this tranny or am I going to have to fab my own?
Luke
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-04-2003 10:12 PM
Luke,You can fab your original handle to a modern shifter if you'd like. The throw will be longer due to the leverage of the longer handle. Check out Mustangs Plus above to see what they offer.  SteveW
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1580
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 11-04-2003 10:50 PM
That's what I figured I'd do, I've got the original 5 speed shifter, it's a short lil thing, about 4 inches. So I figured I'd chop the end of it off and take my original 3 speed shifter and mate the two together to have a somewhat original look. I know Mustangs Unlimited has one, but if I was going to spend more than a hundred I figured I'd just go with a Hurst of some sort then.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-04-2003 11:06 PM
Luke you're on the right track if you want original appearance and long throw shifting. Have fun with it,SteveW
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Big D
Gearhead Posts: 5133
From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-04-2003 11:17 PM
Luke,,I have the MustangPlus "Speed Shifter" in my 6T6 Fastback.. It is an awesome shifter,, and as far as Muscle Car looks,, it leaves a lot of on lookers talking to themselves as they walk away wondering,, "what the heck is that thang".. I personally think it look awesome.. It has a shorter and more positive shift pattern than the existing shifter,, even though it bolts on and utilizes the whatever shifting mechanism you use.. The main focus of the shifter is to bring your hand back,, closer to the steering wheel so you don't have to reach.. I could imagine this is a great advantage when road racing or getting stuck in rush hour traffic..  ------------------
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'66 Fastback
5.0 HO with T5
Royal Blue Metallic w/Ghost Flames "If you put Brake Fluid in Paint,, Will it stop it from Running..
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SundanceKid
Gearhead Posts: 1260
From: UT
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-05-2003 04:34 AM
My advice would be get the shortest possible shifter device (tri/ax, Pro 5.0) then buy a Hurst shifter with the right bend. Mine came from a GTO 3spd (GM B body). With the Tri/Ax and the Hurst stick together I have about a 5 inch total throw. Which is still pretty d@mn short! The look is dead on an the stick is in perfect the position, about a degree or so off from stock but you'd never know. The best part is if you modify a Hurst it's flat and easy to drill two holes in it.
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1580
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 11-05-2003 09:41 AM
You know, I didn't even think about that, using a tri-ax shifter with just whatever lever I liked, that makes perfect sense, to get just what I needed.
Man, I'd never been to Mustangs Plus website before, they've got some interesting stuff, that shifter that you're speaking I was lookin' at it and was kind of in an awe, but since it's located further back, do you just leave the linkage that locates it further back exposed or did you fab up a console to cover it?
Thanks for the help everyone!
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Big D
Gearhead Posts: 5133
From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-05-2003 01:29 PM
Mooney,,I put a dbl boot set-up on my installation.. Looks pretty trick.. If you'd like to see a picture of it,, I could email it to you.. Don
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1580
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 11-05-2003 09:32 PM
Yah that'd be great! My e-mail is [email protected]. I doubt I'll be getting anything to fancy though after today, went up to Mustangs Unlimited and ended up spending about 800 dollars. Which was not expected.
Just curious though, might anyone know what an 8.8 rear end with either 3.73's or 4.11's would go for? I've got one, and I'm thinking about going with the 8 inch I have out of a 65 stang instead of having to deal with whatever it takes to put up the 8.8. All though the posi is very enticing.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-05-2003 11:07 PM
The 8.8 rear isn't rare, you can find them in any wrecking yard. So call the yards and see what they charge. SteveW
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1278
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-06-2003 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Big D:
Mooney,,I put a dbl boot set-up on my installation.. Looks pretty trick.. If you'd like to see a picture of it,, I could email it to you.. Don
I wouldn't mind seeing a photo of it either.....
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1580
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 11-06-2003 08:25 PM
I knew the 8.8 wasn't rare, just thought with the 3.73's or 4.11's I might able to get some quick cash out of it... though I'd love to adapt it. Is there anyone here that has? Or know of what it might take to do so?
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Big D
Gearhead Posts: 5133
From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-06-2003 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by Mpcoluv:
I wouldn't mind seeing a photo of it either.....
You guys have mail.. I would have posted them for all to see,, but I can't.. Don
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-07-2003 12:45 AM
Mooney email TomP he can help you with info on the stall of the 8.8. He's a great guy and knows what he's talking about. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/001599.html ------------------
Ron 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics [This message has been edited by Fastymz (edited 11-07-2003).]
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Tom G
Gearhead Posts: 587
From: Bethlehem, Pa USA
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 11-10-2003 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Mooney:
You know, I didn't even think about that, using a tri-ax shifter with just whatever lever I liked, that makes perfect sense, to get just what I needed.
Man, I'd never been to Mustangs Plus website before, they've got some interesting stuff, that shifter that you're speaking I was lookin' at it and was kind of in an awe, but since it's located further back, do you just leave the linkage that locates it further back exposed or did you fab up a console to cover it?
Thanks for the help everyone!
I used a steeda triax with my conversion and the stick that comes with it works well in my 67. I do have a look alke stick for a 67/68 t-5 conversion brand new in the box got it from Mustang Unlimited Make Offer.
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68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 422
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 11-12-2003 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Mooney email TomP he can help you with info on the stall of the 8.8. He's a great guy and knows what he's talking about. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/001599.html
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Originally posted by TomP:
the pinion is offset to the right, certainly not 4" tho.... seems to me it was 1-2" , not a real problem for your car, can lead to driveshaft rubbing the side of the tunnel if it was lowered. The axles on the those offset 8.8's are longer on the drivers side. Using a passenger side axle on both sides and shortening the left tube of the housing makes it a centered pinion and a couple inches narrower.
I purchased a rear end from a V8 Explorer after reading the above post, and several posts claiming that an 8.8" is lighter than a 9".
Fact: The pinion in the V8 Expy rear is 4" to the right of center. Mine is from a '98. Fact: All 8.8"s are not the same. The V8 Expy rear is heavier than a 9"(227lb). The Fox-body rear is lighter(170lb). I'm sure the weight of the Ranger unit is about the same as the Fox, due to simillar tube and center design.
Because the Expy rear is a pig and a 2" cut will not center the pinion, I bought a Fox rear. I am going to use the Expy t-loc and brakes on the Fox rear with aftermarket axels, and Griggs control arms(fab work). The Expy brakes will not bolt to the Fox rear either(more fab work).
If I could do it over, I would go for the Ranger rear or 94-98 Mustang rear. 79-93 have 4 lug wheels, and 99+ rears are too wide.
If anyone is installing an open dif 8.8", I have a 28 spline t-loc for $50.
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68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 422
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 11-12-2003 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by SundanceKid:
My advice would be get the shortest possible shifter device (tri/ax, Pro 5.0) then buy a Hurst shifter with the right bend. With the Tri/Ax and the Hurst stick together I have about a 5 inch total throw. Which is still pretty d@mn short! The look is dead on an the stick is in perfect the position, about a degree or so off from stock but you'd never know. The best part is if you modify a Hurst it's flat and easy to drill two holes in it.
This is good advise.
DO NOT USE A STOCK T5 SHIFTER WITH A LONGER HANDLE.
The T5 does not have built in stops, and you will break the shift forks.
The best shifters are Kirban, Pro50, Tri-Ax, and MRT(same as T-A). Use what ever handle(lever) and knob you want except for the early cast blue Tri-Ax handle. Many people have punched their radio after breaking the cast handle during the 2->3 shift.
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