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Fastymz
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posted 11-18-2001 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I do the 8.8 in my 65.Will the drive shaft fit need to be sorter or longer?
And will my u jionts fit the 8.8 cage.And are the gear numbers on the tag the last set on numbers.

Thanks guys Ron

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-18-2001 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You will have to measure the driveshaft after you install the rear end. There is no way to know what u-joint you will need without seeing the old one and the yoke that you are going to use.

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posted 11-18-2001 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7DMACH1   Click Here to Email 7DMACH1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gear number are the last ones on the tag. If it has an "L" it a locker. example 3L08 is a locker , 3.08 is an open rear. RAY

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posted 11-18-2001 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I gonna to look at using the explorer 8.8.Will the yoke from my 8" work on the 8.8.Thanks Alex.

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posted 11-18-2001 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ray,thats what I was thinking it was.I looked at my 94 f150 2wd.It has a 8.8 which for got about.Tag had the last numbers on the bottom of 3L08.So I though it had to be a posi,3.08 gears.Do either of you know of any one putting the 8.8 in a 65.Trying to save money and do the right thing at the same time.

Thanks Ron

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posted 11-18-2001 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOPS Forgot to answer the gear ratio part of the question.

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posted 11-18-2001 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron

u joint are u joints... there is only a few different sizes and any of the ones we'd be dealing with in this case can be adapted.

The flange that is gonna be on a Ranger and Explorer driveshaft is the one you can attach to your driveshaft.

Ranger rear end works too... make sure it's an 8.8 and not a smaller 7.5 . If in doubt, get an Explorer one.

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posted 11-19-2001 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrWesson22   Click Here to Email MrWesson22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm seriously interested in doing this swap as well. $300+ sure beats the $2K+ I was looking at for a built 9". Exactly how wide is a stock explorer rear?

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posted 11-20-2001 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'bout 58" , but the disc brake ones look a bit wider.

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Fastymz
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posted 11-20-2001 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://1trick.stangnet.com/faq/8.8rear.html
Bruke a new member to M&M emailed me this site check it out.There it says the explorer 8.8 is 59.5 wide and the ranger is 56.25 wide thse are flang to flang.

Ron

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posted 11-20-2001 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking could you use the after market 9" spring perches instead of taking off the one from the 8".The say the fit the 9" or any 3" tube axle.What would my 65 stang 8" be worth to sale it.It seem like it should good for some better good money.What do you guys think.Every dollar in or out counts. Ron

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67mike
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posted 11-20-2001 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67mike   Click Here to Email 67mike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do the 8.8's fit 67's? I know that they(67) are wider but but could they still work. Also how do tell the ranger rears apart? look for one with the six? Thanks Mike

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Fastymz
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posted 11-23-2001 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey,I was reading that the 8.8 has a offset pionion.So it moves the driveshaft over 2-4 inchs.Will that still work and will it cause any problems.


Ron

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posted 11-24-2001 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the pinion is offset to the right, certainly not 4" tho.... seems to me it was 1-2" , not a real problem for your car, can lead to driveshaft rubbing the side of the tunnel if it was lowered. The axles on the those offset 8.8's are longer on the drivers side. Using a passenger side axle on both sides and shortening the left tube of the housing makes it a centered pinion and a couple inches narrower.

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67mike
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posted 11-26-2001 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67mike   Click Here to Email 67mike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody know if the 8.8 will work on 67's.
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Fastymz
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posted 11-26-2001 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
67mike,yes it will work.The explorer is the same width has your stock one now.

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badazzcougar
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posted 11-26-2001 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for badazzcougar   Click Here to Email badazzcougar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive got a brother with a 68 cougar I used to own with a 8.8 inch from a late 80's Tbird. I put it in because it had decent gears ( 3.73 with tracloc) and was cheap at $150 from the boneyard plus $40 to have the bolt pattern changed at dutchman motorsports. I replaced the stock 8 incher and I couldnt tell you if the driveshaft would have worked as I also put in a 390/C6 at the same time . Once it was all in I just measured how long it had to be and then found one in the boneyard. Came out of a late model mustang I believe.

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