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streetstang67
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posted 08-05-2003 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been having a lot of questions about my car lately, just trying to get it "tuned" right. I wanted to check and see if me vacuum secondaries are opening under full throttle. I tied some fishing line to keep the closed and test drove, then cut the line off and tried again... no change. Is there a better way of testing that?

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ukracer
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posted 08-06-2003 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ukracer   Click Here to Email ukracer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could try a small cable-tie snugged up around the rod and pushed up to the vac. can. Then test drive and after, see how far the tie has moved. By opening the primaries fully (engine off) and opening the secondaries manually until the tie again touches the vac. can. you can see how far they open. Make sense? It worked for me. HTH
Cheers, Martin

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indyphil
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posted 08-06-2003 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of carb is it? My edlebrock makes a distinctive sound when the secondaries open up. (and a distinctive shove in the seat of my pants)
It sounds like a high pitch rushing sound that changes pitch as they open.

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n2oMike
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posted 08-06-2003 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's just one of the things I don't like about Holley's vacuum secondary system. They NEVER seem to open all the way, and it doesn't take much to make them totally inoperable.

Too heavy of a spring, or ANY leak or blocked passage in the system keeps the 4bbl from opening up.

In my opinion, use an Edelbrock for the street and a double pumper for a more 'racing' oriented setup. Leave the cheap 'generic' Holley 600 and 750 vacuum secondary (#1850 and #3310) units on the store shelf.

When you stab the throttle on either the Edelbrock or a double pumper, you know the 4bbl is going to be there!

Good Luck!

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streetstang67
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posted 08-06-2003 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do I adjust the secondaries to make them open?

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Fastymz
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posted 08-06-2003 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can buy a spring kit and keep trying lighter springs until it opens.

First try this," Could try a small cable-tie snugged up around the rod and pushed up to the vac. can. Then test drive and after, see how far the tie has moved. By opening the primaries fully (engine off) and opening the secondaries manually until the tie again touches the vac. can. you can see how far they open. Make sense? It worked for me. HTH
Cheers, Martin "

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