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Topic: Made it into the 13's tonight!
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-29-2003 11:54 PM
   
Not really far into them, but I ran a 13.95!  Finally, after well over a year ofd trying. I think I can get it down some more. With this new carb I launch way harder. I actually had problems with traction off the line for the first time ever. On the second run of the night I hooked good and ran the 13.95 but I short shifted it. I think I can get it down a bit yet by moving my shifts up a bit. Next time I go I'll be hitting it with 125 HP of NOS. B-loose
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6384
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-30-2003 12:20 AM
That's great!13's are cool, congratulations. SteveW
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 02:11 AM
Congrats on the hitting the 13's.
Sounds like all that work paid off.What were your MPH ?------------------
SCOOP 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 07:01 AM
My MPH seems to be consistent no matter what the ET is, About 97MPH. That's down from 98 last year. My 60' is about 1.9 now, where they were 2.4. I also think I may be able to get my 60's down a bit this year. When I hit the NO2 last week I was over 100MPH but I didn't even look to see what it was. B-loose
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 3269
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 07-30-2003 07:06 AM
that 60 ft time is very important. for every number that you take off of the 60 you should take about 3 numbers off of your et!! good luck------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 728
From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 07-30-2003 03:58 PM
Bloose,
thats great. I havent been following this forum very long. Maybe you could summarise your set up and what you have changed for me?My goal is to run 13s on street tires. Itll be more than a year away for me  ------------------
'68 coupe 289 C code
66 heads, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 07:41 PM
I have a '68 Fairlane Fastback, 289 +.030, 10:1 KB Hyper pistons, 226* @.050 .530 lift cam, Performer RPM, Mighty Demon 650, AOD trans 3000 RPM stall, 4.62 8" rear end, 275/60-15 Drag radials.I started out last year running a 14.7 for my first run. By the end of the night I had it down to 14.4. I was shooting for the 13's. I had the wrong converter for the car and had a bog off the line. But after carb tuning, timing adjustment, etc, I got the car to run 14.007, missing my 13's goal. I still had some stumbles in the carb at certain RPM's too. Over the winter I put in 1.7 rollers, guide plates, new springs and retainers, Nitrous, the 3000 rpm stall (had a 2000), and the drag radials. Imagine my disapointment when I get to the track this year and run 14.1. I had a high speed stumble now, and a stumble when the VS opened. I wound up buying the Mighty Demon and now the car runs great. I do think I will be able to get the ET down some more on motor but I'm very happy I hit the 13's finally. For reference my cousing has a '73 Camaro he bought with a 383 SBC in it. It is pretty well built but he did not build it so he is not really sure about the specs. Anyway, he ran a 13.98 with it, so 13.95 with my 289 is really not that bad. B-loose [This message has been edited by Bloose (edited 07-31-2003).]
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NM Dave
Journeyman Posts: 8
From: Santa Fe, NM USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 07-30-2003 07:56 PM
With that much cam and gear in the car I would expect a little better ET. How is your front suspension setup. You may not be getting the right weight transfer to plant the rear tires.
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-31-2003 12:11 AM
Yeah, I expected better ET's too, especially after the changes I made this winter. Traction isnt really my problem.On my first run last night it was, but I adjusted tire pressure and it took care of it. I think it's just a matter of fine tuning now. Remember this is a big car, and a small motor. I'm going to weigh it one of these days, but I'm sure it's 3500lbs+.Any suggestions to get my ET's down? B-loose
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 632
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 07-31-2003 12:24 AM
Welcome to the 13s.I remember my first one after about 10 passes in the low 14s and lots of thrashing I hit a 13.99.I was so happy I thought I'd bust,but not for long.Now I want 12s.It would be very helpful if you could type some of your timeslips on here so everyone can analyse your whole run and not just the end result.------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-31-2003 04:13 PM
Tuesday my times went like this,1st run, bad tire spin off the line,
60' 2.256
330 6.022
1/8 9.166
1/8 mph 77.94
1000 11.83
1/4 14.198
1/4 mph 97.78 2nd run, good traction no spin, 60' 1.972
330 5.747
1/8 8.903
1/8 mph 77.71
1000 11.643
1/4 13.959
1/4 mph 97.39 TIA,
B-loose
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 632
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-01-2003 01:01 AM
Your timeslips look very similiar to mine except your 60fts are better(I average about a 2.06),yet your not running any quicker or faster at the line.What kind of exhaust are you running?This makes a big difference on my car.Uncorking the headers will drop me from a high 13-14 flat to a 13.80 and pick up a good 2-3mph.I'm thinking something is holding you back a little on the top end.Do you think your carb is opening up soon enough or all the way?I'm assuming its a vacuum secondary.------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-01-2003 01:31 AM
What are you leaving at now? Your 60's are better then before I'd be happy with 1.9's.
I'd unhook the the exhaust too.That 289 needs RPM's to get that big car moving.So the higher you can leave and keep those RPM's the better your times will be.------------------
SCOOP 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 08-01-2003 05:45 AM
I'm running a 2.5" exhaust through a 2.5" X-Pipe into Hooker mufflers then turn downs, no tail pipes. I would think that removing the exhaust would lower my ET but I didn't want to do that, maybe I will though. As far as what I leave the line at, I try to bring my RPM to about 2500, and put it to the floor when I leave the line. The converter stalls somewhere around 3000~3200. I am still a bit green at this so I have a hard time keeping track of everything. You would think that driving in a straight line would be easier. Is this a good way to launch? Or should I have my RPM lower or higher. Higher is a bit tough because it gets hard to hold the car back, even with the new discs. Also, the carb is a 650 DP Mighty Demon. I had a 625 VS on before. Thanks,
B-loose
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4384
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 08-01-2003 08:10 AM
 It has enough mph now to run low 13's, around 13.30-13.40's actually on just the motor. Back when I had a mild motor in my street car, it ran low 13.30's at 98-99 mph.
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 632
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 08-01-2003 11:44 AM
Sounds like a good exhaust system but I would uncork the headers just to see.My car has terrible 2 1/4 inch tailpipes that were poorly bent at the muffler shop.I would try a few different launch methods to see which one your car likes.I haven't seen many cars running much quicker than mid-high 13s with a high 90s mph.Maybe Kid can tell us how he was doing it but he must have had that baby really dialed in.Which doesn't really surprise me  ------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 08-01-2003 02:08 PM
I was hoping for mid 13's just on motor but for some reason that never happened. I'm just happy to be in the 13's after all the time and money I spent trying to get there.I'll try a few different launches and see what happens. Unfortunately the track here in WI is always packed and I'm lucky to get a couple of runs in per night. Thanks,
B-loose
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11085
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-01-2003 05:14 PM
I'm not a racer,but I'd try leaving as high as you get the rpm's.Keep on eye on what rpm's you leave at and what your 60's do.Dont even worry about your ET.If you have no wheel spin then push it more.Until it spins then you get to figure out how to get ride of the wheel spin again.So on and so on,until you see the sky on ever luanch. ------------------
SCOOP 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 269
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 08-01-2003 07:01 PM
Thanks, I'll try that.My wife always asks me when the car will be done, I just smile and say soon. B-loose [This message has been edited by Bloose (edited 08-01-2003).]
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4384
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 08-01-2003 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by mustangboy:
Maybe Kid can tell us how he was doing it but he must have had that baby really dialed in.
One word.... Slicks. Actually, it was a fairly "tired" motor, and had a TCI 10" convertor, a 4.11 gear, and some 29" tall slicks on it. It was so underpowered that with slicks it would have hooked in a carwash. 
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 08-01-2003 07:29 PM
When my asks me when will my car be done.
I tell her never,it's like LOVE when do you want me to stopping loving you? ------------------
SCOOP 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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