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Topic: New slicks
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-20-2003 07:43 PM
   
I got a pair of MT slicks 26x8.5x14.Will these fit a 7" rim.
Also can I drive these on the street at all.Like to cruise night.I would not be driving them more then 10 miles at a time.Any advice for using the slicks.I know that sounds real dumb but I've never had any before. Do I need to heat them up before I stage. Any and all advice would be great. ------------------
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 557
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 07-20-2003 11:02 PM
only if they have a dot stamp on the tire ron! other wise if there is on dot stamping or it has no treads then its a racing only slick and it can not be driven on the street..bruce
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
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posted 07-21-2003 12:10 AM
Bruce is right legally,But I know a couple people who drive their slick equiped car 12 miles to race at the track. I wouldn't tho  SteveW
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4538
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 07-21-2003 07:48 AM
You can do it Scoop, but it aint legal. 
I ran mine on the street a couple of times when I was younger while looking for certain loudmouths. But, if you get pulled over, your gonna get a ticket. And if you do decide to run them on the street at all, jus remember they aren't designed for cornering.
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 3385
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 07-21-2003 10:27 AM
and they certainly aint designed for wet or even damp roads.------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-21-2003 04:20 PM
There a lot of guys who run slicks during Hot August Nights,I've yet heard of any one getiing a ticket for it.Now any other time of year I know for sure they will ticket you.What should I expect when I race or drive with the slicks.
I.E. will the car lean more,do they get more hot when driven for a ways.
How long should I heat them up?
They are MT ET race slicks,MT says they dont need to be heated like other slicks. They are about 1.5" taller then my street tires so that will slow me down alittle. I just hope the car as enough in it to spin the slicks to heat them up.  Any driving tips or advice for the guy with all the questions. ------------------
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Glens67
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Petaluma
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 07-21-2003 05:38 PM
Ron I ran my Hoosers 29 X 9 X 15 on the street several times to Sears Point at 28 psi. No problems, even back home on slightly damp roads YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE ON THE CAR AND DON'T DO STUPID THINGS. On dry pavement they corner pretty good ( at 28 lbs) remember that the road race tires are Slicks. It is difficult to explain to the County Mountys, High Way patrol forget it. ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 07-21-2003 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by kid vishus:
But, if you get pulled over, your gonna get a ticket.
Or towed. Don't ask me how I know...  Also, on the street they get a flat pretty easily. BTDTT ------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 07-21-2003 08:01 PM
I dont want a Ticket. Now for RACING whats the best way to run the slicks.It sounds like a dumb question but any help about racing with slicks will help. ------------------
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1501
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 07-21-2003 09:04 PM
SCOOP,
Let's take a tally: "...I wouldn't tho...." -- SteveW "...but it aint legal...if you get pulled over, your gonna get a ticket." -- Kid Vishus "and they certainly aint designed for wet or even damp roads." -- mike r "I've yet heard of any one getiing a ticket for it." -- WOULD YOU TELL EVERYONE IF YOU GOT TICKETED FOR RUNNING SLICKS ON THE STREET??? "...DON'T DO STUPID THINGS" -- glen "Or towed. Don't ask me how I know...Also, on the street they get a flat pretty easily." -- Steve LaRiviere "They will wear out super-fast just driving around on the street." -- Ryan HHmmmmmmmmmmm....... I think you get the idea. -- Let's not even consider what your lady-friend would say about you getting a ticket for it. OK. At the track - Remove your street tires and bolt on your slicks. Torque them down and make a short tour of the pit area then check the lug nut torque again. When you pull into the burn box water, set the line-lock (if you don't have line-lock, then while still in the pits, loosen your rear brakes adjusters a bit to allow them to turn while the front brakes are engaged) and proceed to turn the slicks in 2nd gear; this may take you 5-10 seconds depending on temperatures. Once you detect smoke in your side mirror, release the brake and ease off the gas to 'drive out' of the box. Pull straight up to the line and stage - no chirping them on the way there! I'm sure other racers use various techniques, but this will get you started and allow you to develop your own technique that both you & your car is comfortable with & like.........  Good Luck!
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
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posted 07-21-2003 09:07 PM
Thanks Ryan for the tips. So you think I'd be ok running them on the street.  ------------------
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1501
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 07-22-2003 05:28 PM
SCOOP,
I just remembered one more thing to consider if you are STILL wrestling with the idea of running slicks on the street..... Remember the rule about NEVER mixing bias-ply tires (like ET Drag slicks) with radial tires (which you likely have for front tires). Which is because the two types of tire construction react differently when placed under stress. In otherwords, if you have to get on the brakes hard/fast, (why would you ever need to do that? ) you could likely be doing donuts down the road instead of stopping in a straight line! Ryan
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 773
From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 07-22-2003 07:20 PM
Im no expert Ron, but since no one else has said it I thought i would chime in.I think they will fit on the 7 inch rim, My friend had a set of Hoosier QT pros (DOT legal race tires with treads) and bought a set of front tires that were 8.5 inches wide for his 7 inch rims. They fit, but they do pull the tire in a lot. The reason he bought the front tires was for the reasons that Ryan said - he couldnt mix radials with Bias ply. Ended up that he couldnt get the fronts inside his fenders, so he is selling the Hoosier QT pro tires (street legal and sticky!) after never having used them. So should you wish to buy them from him I know he wants 200 bucks for the pair but you could beat him down. Of course youll need to pay to ship them blah blah blah... (they are for 15x7 inch rims though) Anyway one more thing that no-one has mentioned. I dont know if you have one but a line lock might be a good idea to warm them up properly at the track? Just a thought. All the guys I see with slicks or sticky race tires do good burnouts to warm and clean the tires from all the crap they pick up on the staging lanes. My advice would be to keep the slicks if you want but put them on a spare set of wheels and dont cruise in them. Take them out for racing only, but you can always brag about the 60-ft times and show your pink slip to the other guys when just cruising... Even better - 14x8 spare rims might make the tire more square and give you better grip too.
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Fastymz
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posted 07-23-2003 02:03 AM
I will not run them on street for sure.
I'm thinking about selling them for some street-drag tires.Maybe some drag BFG so I can keep my front tires too.------------------
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 1547
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 07-23-2003 10:18 AM
I've always run radials on the front of my car... and have often run slicks on the street. I wore out a couple sets of M&H Racemasters (the original street slicks) back in the 'street racing' days. I've also run Hoosier and Mickey Thompson slicks on the street and track... up to around 130mph with no problems.I see no problems with mixing radials and bias ply tires. The main thing is to keep in mind there are SLICKS on the back of the car. They do not corner like regular tires. They are very soft, and are easily cut by road debris. Drive like you've got a little sense, and all is good. 26x8.5" slicks fit great on 7" wheels. You'll want around a 4.5" backspace to make them fit perfect on a 65-66 mustang. Go to the track and have some FUN! Good Luck! ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 07-24-2003 12:53 AM
Thanks for all the help.
I'm thinking about selling the slicks and using the money towards some street slicks.
I'd like something I can run almost all the time and still get alot better traction then what I have now.------------------
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 471
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 07-24-2003 08:18 AM
One additional comment about slicks on the street. The sidewalls are real flexible. If you get into trouble, like steering to correct or if you have to suddenly avoid an obstacle, you can get into trouble real quick! You kinda have to learn not to over-react in these situations and use a little finesse when steering. At the track if I get out of the groove I don't try to immediately correct. Instead I just kinda aim the nose down the track between the trap lights to bring it back into shape.------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 07-24-2003 04:56 PM
What are the odds of me breaking something using the slicks,VS.street tires.------------------
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steve'66
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posted 07-24-2003 05:18 PM
Not very high, unless you do neutral drops. SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 07-24-2003 07:37 PM
Not since I was 20 SteveW.
I can only leave at 22-2500 rpm.My pops and friends keep telling not to use tires with to much traction because I'll break my weak.------------------
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steve'66
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posted 07-24-2003 08:07 PM
Leaving at 2200 is weak, tell them not to worry. SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 07-24-2003 08:24 PM
Thats what I was thinking too.Once I get the timing and tires down.I'll look into new convertor.------------------
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lilgtgirl
Gearhead Posts: 112
From: usa
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 07-27-2003 06:07 PM
bf goodrich makes a good drag radial tire. i just put them on my 95 mustang. they hook up good but other than that it takes a lot of getting used to. they definitely don't feel the same as street tires on the track! the drag radials were also alot cheaper for me to buy instead of replacing my street tires.(i have 17 inch rims and tires ).
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 652
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 07-28-2003 12:16 AM
I run my bias ply McCreary's on the back and my radial BFGs on the front with no problems as long as I have lots of air in the McCrearys's(20-25lbs).When I run them with only 12-15 lbs in them, where they hook up the best, they are still ok as long as I'm hammering on the car.When just cruising at these pressures the car is a little twitchy and nervous feeling for sure.If you can find the McCreary's they are a pretty good option for a street/strip tire.They have a full tread design but work a little better than a drag radial as far as traction is concerned.they aren't quite in the same league as a Mickey thompson ET street tire but these wear out pretty quickly with daily driving on the street.Its still good to have two sets of tires in my opinion.------------------
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steve'66
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posted 07-28-2003 12:28 AM
I second the McCreary tire vote. My buddy Glens67 has real good luck with them. They are American Racing brand tires today. Not sure if they'll fit your 65 though.
They are better than bfg drag radials, but won't hook as good as MT et streets. They'll last longer than either on the street though. Life's full of compromises isn't it. SteveW
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 471
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 07-28-2003 08:34 AM
I've had real good results with the BF Goodrich drag radial. A best 60' in the 1.50's and 10.90's on a P275 60-15's. Plus they drive like a regular tire on the street.
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popeye
Journeyman Posts: 84
From: midwest USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 07-28-2003 09:24 AM
With the BF Goodrich Drag Radial you do get the best of both worlds,so go for it you won't be disappointed Popeye ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 07-28-2003 02:25 PM
So now I know,Know what I'm not sure.
Thanks for all the opinions.It just comes down to one thing MONEY.I need a tire that will hook like crazy and last awhile,and drive good on the street.Thats not asking for alot is it,one last thing it has to in a 14"rim size too.------------------
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1289
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 07-28-2003 03:01 PM
I know what tire you need Scoop. Mickey Thompson G60-14 Indy Profile S/S They're about 25 1/2" tall and 8" wide with deep lasting tread that gets sticky!! I used to run a set when my car had 14" rims. They will hook up great as is, but get even better after a burnout. ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 07-28-2003 03:07 PM
Thats Dan I'll look at those too.Aren't they just street tires?------------------
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Inbred-Jed
Journeyman Posts: 40
From: Chester, Wv 26034
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 07-30-2003 11:12 PM
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Inbred-Jed
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From: Chester, Wv 26034
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posted 07-30-2003 11:20 PM
n/m------------------
1967 fastback 501 BBF
3200lbs and 12"slicks
Best ET:9.97 @ 133mph
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1289
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 11:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Aren't they just street tires?
That's the beauty of the Indy S/S. They look like classic street tires, but they have a great footprint and a deep tread with racing compound that's safer and lasts 5 times longer than a drag radial. It's the only sticky street tire I could find in a 14". The slicks are way better for traction but they squirm around a lot on the street and wear out super fast!!
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
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posted 07-30-2003 11:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Inbred-Jed:
n/m
What does that mean?
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Inbred-Jed
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From: Chester, Wv 26034
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posted 07-31-2003 01:01 AM
n/m = no message
I was just creating a signature and was not sure how it worked, but I finally figured it out. Sorry, didn't mean to make anyone scratch their head.------------------
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