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Topic: MSD 6A OR 6AL
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-10-2003 08:09 PM
   
Would the 6al be worth the extra $50 for my car?
Or should I just stay with the duraspark box unit until I do more motor mods.I already run the blaster2 for the duraspark unit,will this coil work with the MSD box too? ------------------
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mvierow
Gearhead Posts: 197
From: Bay Area, Ca
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-10-2003 08:44 PM
L = limiter. If your pushing the higher limits of your rpm range, a limiter can prevent dissaster. IMO, I wouldn't spend any money on performance parts for a motor without first having some kind of rev limiter already in place.
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 557
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 07-10-2003 08:56 PM
Yes i agree the 6al. but then i bought the msd digital 6 plus..Scoop its like building the motor and not having good brakes..if it goes like a bat out of hell! but wont stop whats the piont? bruce
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-10-2003 09:16 PM
Depends on what your goals are Scoop,I like the MSD 6+  The MSD Blaster coil is fine with MSD ignitions too. SteveW
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 07-10-2003 09:27 PM
Goals,short is to have this motor running the best it can.
Long time is to have a built 351w.In it and to have as many parts already. ------------------
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-10-2003 11:09 PM
Ron,Buy the 6AL and add the two step or timing retard later. The rev limiter is worth worth the extra $50 over the 6A. But if your question is whether or not you need a 6A and is it an improvement over the duraspark, I say NO. You won't see a noticable gain with the swap.  You may want to wait on the whole idea until you're runnig 12's or quicker and spend the money (or save the money) for a new motor. JMHO SteveW
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mvierow
Gearhead Posts: 197
From: Bay Area, Ca
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-11-2003 12:41 PM
Yup yup, I agree with Steve, save the money as you won't get an improvement in performance. The limiter would be nice, but if your planning on a new motor any way, you might as well save it for a digital box like the 6+. I'm running that unit too, and I can't say enough about it. It's all the 6AL, with digital pots for the rev limiter instead of those resistors, a two-step, and a timing retard all in one. It's about 350 though for the unit.Mike
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-11-2003 12:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Ron,
But if your question is whether or not you need a 6A and is it an improvement over the duraspark, I say NO. You won't see a noticable gain with the swap. You may want to wait on the whole idea until you're runnig 12's or quicker and spend the money (or save the money) for a new motor. JMHOSteveW
Thanks Steve,many of the guys around here keep telling my to get the MSD unit.I don't think I need right now.
It's nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about. ------------------
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 557
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 07-11-2003 06:47 PM
scoop thats why i suggested the duraspark originally to you..Its great for what you need.and it wont fail like theother setup is prone to.I think a bigger exhaust would help you alot 2.5 to 3.0 inch set up just my .02
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-11-2003 07:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by N266fords:
scoop thats why i suggested the duraspark originally to you..Its great for what you need.and it wont fail like theother setup is prone to.I think a bigger exhaust would help you alot 2.5 to 3.0 inch set up just my .02
Thanks Bruce
I'll have to try the car at the track with open headers and see what happens.
Not sure an almost stock 351w would really need a 2.5 exhaust?
But that would explain the extra heat under the hood too.
Maybe I should just put some tips on the end of the headers and call it good enough. 
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 557
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 07-11-2003 08:54 PM
you know that block is tell you it needs a 392 stroker hehehehehe.bruce and that depends on what cam you have.i went from a 2.250 to 2.50 daul w/flomaster 50 series and dr. gas X pipe and my times went from 14.99 to14.4 with only that change..Of course that was an 8.5 comp 289 with stock 1.48 1.78 valved head no nos.bruce
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 07-11-2003 08:58 PM
Bruce I have a real mild cam just alittle better then stock.
If I could get a .5 off my ET I'd do it for sure. ------------------
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 557
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 07-13-2003 02:59 PM
what could it hurt i know that going to 3 inch might make you suffer but 2.5 wont plus it like trying to run while holding your nose shut..get a bigger cam what compression are you running and what stall is you tranny mine was stock..i only had 8.5 compression i was going to run a blower but the money went to the stroker motor instead..bruce
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Big D
Gearhead Posts: 3680
From: WELLS, NEVADA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 07-13-2003 07:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Ron,You may want to wait on the whole idea until you're runnig 12's or quicker and spend the money (or save the money) for a new motor. JMHO SteveW
WHOA,, I didn't realize that a new motor and MSD Ignition System were the same price.. Makes you wonder sometimes.. Don
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-13-2003 07:49 PM
LOL@Don
I'm saving to rebuild my motor.But the money keeps ending up being used on other things.Like the kids  ------------------
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 1677
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 07-13-2003 08:20 PM
Hold on Scoop I may be switching to a Mag set up. if so I'll have some MSD stuff like a 6al to get rid of. Even if I don't go with a mag, I need to step up to a 7AL2. I have been looking for one at the right price. If you can't wait I understand, but I'll give you first shot at it before I put it on ebay. What are the rules about posting racing stuff for sale in the want ads section that arent Ford? Like mallory or MSD stuff?
JS PS. KV I sent you an email to verify mine is working. Did it make it?
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-13-2003 08:25 PM
Jerry I'm in no hurry at all.Thanks for the offer.
There's plenty of time before I'll be seeing 12's.Unless Steve was talking about the 1/8th mile. You can post non Ford parts like MSD.As long as they can be used on a Ford car.Like tires,rims ect ect. ------------------
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