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Topic: Torque Converter
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1896
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 06-12-2003 12:16 PM
   
Can anyone recommend a stall converter for my 69? I'm in the process of upgrading the 302 with Comp Cams 270H, WP Windsor Jr iron heads, performer intake with Holley 600, long headers with 2 1/2 exhaust. Adding a TracLock diff with either 3.50 or 3.80 gears. I'm going to install an AOD in place of the manual 3 spd. Will be used for mostly street with an very limited strip use.Thanks. ------------------
David G.
1969 Mustang Sportsroof
302 with 3 Speed Stick
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grandestang
Gearhead Posts: 375
From: Lake Bluff, Illinois USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 06-12-2003 01:11 PM
For that 270H cam I see alot of guys running in the 2500-3000 stall range.
But one thing I would suggest is a Performer RPM instead of the Performer. It will give you a whole lot more top end while giving up not alot of low end to the Performer. Paul ------------------
1970 Grande
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 06-12-2003 01:25 PM
Call JPT.
517-663-0578 and ask for Bob. Great product, great service, great price.
Tell him Alex sent you.  ------------------
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1896
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 06-12-2003 02:52 PM
Thanks Paul. I'll have to stick with the performer for now since that's what I have.Thanks Alex. Will do.
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1404
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 06-12-2003 04:02 PM
as far as the converter listen to alex .But as far as the gears 3.80 if you are going to run an aod also the converter will have a choice of lock up or non lock up this will depend on if you are street and some track or visa virsa . Bruce
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1896
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 06-12-2003 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by N266fords:
choice of lock up or non lock up this will depend on if you are street and some track or visa virsa
It will be street with maybe a trip or three a year to the 1/8 mile strip. I'm assuming that I need a lock-up converter. Thanks.
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 621
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 06-13-2003 07:33 PM
Unless this is a daily driver I would suggest 4.11 gears with an AOD. I run 4.62 gears in mine with an AOD and it does fine on the street and on the freeway. It is about 2800rpm at 65. As far as stall goes I would call the TQ manufacturer as suggested but I would guess they will recommend in the range of 2700~3000 RPM. HTH,
B-loose
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1896
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 06-13-2003 10:20 PM
If by daily driver you mean as my primary mode of transportation then it wont be. But I do plan to drive it to work as the weather permits and cruise around on the weekend. We have a local Cruise-In the 2nd Saturday of every month that I will be attending as often as possible.
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Bloose
Gearhead Posts: 621
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 06-14-2003 03:04 PM
My opinion is 4.11. My belief is the only thing that makes transplanting an AOD into a car is the ability to run an ultra low gear on the street. Like I said I run 4.62 with no regrets. I drive over 30 mile to the race track and about 40 miles to the drive in theater. The freeway to the drive in is 65 MPH and I have no problem doing 65. I cross the line in 3rd with my 225/65-14's at about 6000RPM in the 1/4. Gear low, with an AOD you won't regret it. B-loose
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-14-2003 03:14 PM
Lock up or Non lock up converter for an AOD.So which one do you want for race and which one for street. ------------------
SCOOP
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2751
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 06-14-2003 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Call JPT.
517-663-0578 and ask for Bob. Great product, great service, great price.
Tell him Alex sent you.
I talked to these two guys a couple of days ago and ALEX is 100% right. Jim knows everyone everywhere that has ever done anything with racing. He's been there done that. He knew half a dozen folks I race with. PLUS he knows what he is doing. I just can't figure out why ALEX has kept them a secret for so long? 
I also think Kenny Ford at PTC knows a good bit about convertors. he did mine and it seems to work pretty good on my motor.
JS
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