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Topic: Fiberglass monoleafs/CalTrac bars!!!!
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-07-2003 11:26 PM
Finally got the '66 back to the track tonight with the new motor and Flexiform glass springs with CalTrac bars. All we can say is WOW. The first launch at only 3200rpm off the two step the car pulled the front wheels a couple feet off the ground and held it up while the car turned right! Melissa got it back down and straightened it up. A quick cell phone call to Alex and readjusting the CalTracs and it went straight. The next time it only pulled the front tires about a foot off the ground and went straight! Thanks again Alex. Its 60' was a 1.462, and then as we were gonna crank things up after a couple passes on the new engine they closed the track for the faster cars. The wind was really blowing the faster cars around especially after the new grandstands. I'm sure we can 60' in the high 1.3s once we get it setup right even with the little 10x26" slicks. The glass monos and CalTrac combo are awesome. I watched a SS/LA car at Sacramento last Sunday with Steel monos and CalTracs and it didn't pull the front tires off the ground. His main concern was the California Colt. For those that don't know the California Colt uses Flexiform springs and CalTracs. SteveW
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F551 Gearhead Posts: 284 From: Manitoba, Canada Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-07-2003 11:44 PM
Sounds like you guys are having fun!Did you use the CalTracs with a factory style set of springs? Was wondering how the 60' might have improved with the glass monoleaf. ------------------ Fred 68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs" 86 Mustang GT Cobra
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 05-07-2003 11:44 PM
Good job Steve and Mel.------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03 First SS/MA in the TENS! Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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TomP Gearhead Posts: 6376 From: Delta BC Canada Registered: Dec 99
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posted 05-08-2003 01:37 AM
Two foot wheelies?We need pictures!!
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Glens67 Gearhead Posts: 522 From: Middleton, ID Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-08-2003 02:01 AM
Great job Steeve and Mel. I have the second run on MPEJ will post tomorrow.------------------ Glen 67 GT 390 65 Galaxie 500 XL 4 Speed It was not a Red Light they gave me a Slow Tree I WAS NOT LATE the Tree was Fast
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rockafellz Gearhead Posts: 1459 From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 05-08-2003 02:19 AM
NICE!! Erik ------------------ 1966 Ford Mustang 2+2 Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe Dad's - Original Unrestored
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 10:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Glens67: I have the second run on MPEJ will post tomorrow.
Glen, That would be great, just post about 5 seconds starting with the launch if you can. It will help with download time. SteveW
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afret Gearhead Posts: 243 From: Lancaster, CA Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 05-08-2003 10:32 AM
That's great!!!! Can't wait to see the video.
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 22791 From: Reno Nv M&M #1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2003 11:14 AM
Glad to hear it helped Steve.1.46 60's are great 1.3 60's are just scary fast. 2 foot wheelies ------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Skeeter Gearhead Posts: 160 From: California Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 05-08-2003 11:58 AM
Very Nice! Can't wait to see you guys run.Jason
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Ryan Wilke Gearhead Posts: 3237 From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888 Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 01:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by F551: Sounds like you guys are having fun!Did you use the CalTracs with a factory style set of springs? Was wondering how the 60' might have improved with the glass monoleaf.
STEVE & MEL, OBVIOUSLY YOU TWO HAVING TOO MUCH FUN!! I'll second Fred's question - was the 'glass leaf springs the only change made to get the better bite & resultant 60' improvement? Ryan
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 01:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ryan Wilke: I'll second Fred's question - was the 'glass leaf springs the only change made to get the better bite & resultant 60' improvement? Ryan
The rear suspension was clamped 4-leaf springs, slapper bars, and Rancho shocks. Now fiberglass mono's, CalTrac's and Rancho shocks. SteveW
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Ryan Wilke Gearhead Posts: 3237 From: Stanton, Michigan, zip 48888 Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 03:31 PM
WAY KOOL!!!!!! THAT'S A HE!!VA SWEET IMPROVEMENT!!!!
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RobsRestoMod Journeyman Posts: 29 From: Spring, Texas Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-08-2003 05:06 PM
Steve, What kind of adjustment was made on the Cal-Tracs to get the car to go straight.Also great 60's, nice improvement.Thanks Rob [This message has been edited by RobsRestoMod (edited 05-08-2003).]
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 05:15 PM
Rob,Had to loosen the left side bar to take some hit out of the left tire. I need to do some more testing. SteveW
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 09:42 PM
Glen,Is it tomorrow yet? SteveW
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clevelandstyle Gearhead Posts: 1558 From: central Indiana Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-08-2003 10:09 PM
I think it is. ------------------ Ben Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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ekbeanctr Gearhead Posts: 772 From: Middlebury, IN USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 10:39 PM
Steve, I already have the Flexiform Fiberglass springs and I believe you just persuaded me to spend some more money and get the CalTrac Bars. Congrats on the improvement. Ernie------------------ Have a Wonderful Day CandyApple 65 Fastback 351W, Hooker Super Comps,4 Speed Versaille 9" Rear End Global West Front End [email protected]
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-08-2003 10:51 PM
CalTrac's will need to modify your springs to work with the CalTracs. Ask them about that first, they'll do it for you. John or Travis at CalTrac, or let Alex arrange it for you. SteveW
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Butch Jennings Gearhead Posts: 637 From: No. California Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 05-09-2003 12:21 AM
Very cool Steve. ------------------ Butch 460 powered 1967 Comet Cyclone (Broken) 10.271 @ 130.231 Butcher's Home Page "Friends don't let friends drive Chevys"
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-09-2003 01:13 AM
Thanks Butch,It means a lot to hear from you. You are our "mentor" and thanks again for your post. Hope you're doing well and hope to see you and Larry at "infineon" this summer. SteveW
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 22791 From: Reno Nv M&M #1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-09-2003 12:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by steve'66:
Hope you're doing well and hope to see you and Larry at "infineon" this summer. SteveW
Me too
------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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XR7 Gearhead Posts: 191 From: north Idaho Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 05-09-2003 07:30 PM
What was the before and after 60 ft times? Good job! I'm thinking of doing this also. If you changed your motor how can you tell how much the new springs and caltrac bars made by themselves? It sounds like you have a lot more bite if your yanking wheels up though! It's always good to have improvements after spending time and money. I have talked to guys that have no improvement or worse, lost some ET after big changes! I'd like to see the video, that's for sure!
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-09-2003 09:18 PM
XR7,The mph was down on that run so the new engine wasn't a factor. Gotta get it tuned. The problem with the 60'ers before was that they weren't consistant. One run might be a good 1.54 then the next would be a 1.76 or worse. The suspension would raise the rear of the car first then roll a couple feet out and if the track had great bite it would pick the front tires off the ground and go. Now it doesn't do any of that crap, it just throws the front tires off the ground right away giving it great weight transfer and traction. Gotta be more consistant than it was before. Only two runs so far, but the difference is very obvious! Lots of people were talking about it in the staging lanes. And asking Melissa if she cleaned up the "mess" in the driver's seat. When we do get to see the video, remember it is the "tame" launch after I readjusted the CalTracs. Steve
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rockafellz Gearhead Posts: 1459 From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 05-09-2003 11:06 PM
(holding my spoon and fork, stomping my fists on the dinner table) V-I-D-E-O!! V-I-D-E-O!! V-I-D-E-O!! Erik ------------------ 1966 Ford Mustang 2+2 Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe Dad's - Original Unrestored
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-10-2003 12:05 AM
Glen,I'll get you a M&M tee shirt if you'll post the darn video. SteveW
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MAV Gearhead Posts: 283 From: Macon,Georgia, U.S.A. Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-10-2003 03:58 PM
...AHEM...video.------------------ http://maverickgrabber.iwarp.com
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Big D Gearhead Posts: 6843 From: WELLS, NEVADA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-10-2003 11:48 PM
So Steve,,What were Mels responses,, after pulling the front wheels way off the ground,, when she came back to the pits.. Don
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 29200 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 05-11-2003 05:14 PM
What a GREAT leaving car that is now. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03 First SS/MA in the TENS! Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 9835 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-13-2003 09:24 PM
Alex,It's very Cool now, Thanks! Don, She was all smiles! She was a little nervous before the second pass, but with Alex's advice I felt like she'd be safe. The second run was pretty mild, we're goona make a couple more passes tomorrow and see what happens. SteveW
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