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james306
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posted 05-01-2003 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james306   Click Here to Email james306     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
who makes thin head gaskets for a 302 and where can i get them? thanks

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capri man
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posted 05-01-2003 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i got mine from alex. .018

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james306
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posted 05-01-2003 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james306   Click Here to Email james306     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i cant seem to figure out the moneymakerracing web site so i can look this up.

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Fastymz
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posted 05-01-2003 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can email Alex at,

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-01-2003 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
www.cometic.com

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james306
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posted 05-02-2003 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james306   Click Here to Email james306     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just went there, no luck

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 05-02-2003 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their catalog lists a .040" gasket for the 289/302 and a .030" gasket for a 302/351 SVO, but they also make custom gaskets.

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posted 05-03-2003 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RONNIE   Click Here to Email RONNIE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hay moneymaker,ineed some info i put a post on AFM about C.R. you can see what i have in my motor at rons.mustangii.net its a long story i had water in my oil but come to find out it was the intake leaking, but during all that i tryed 2 headgaskets and thats whats on it now and running find but someone replyed and said this Originally posted byI have always heard the "rule of thumb" regarding compression ratio, was 10% horsepower increase (or decrease) per 1 full compression ratio point.. So if the extra head gasket is 40 thousands think, then we are talking about approx 0.50 cubic inches (4 inch bore (2 inch radius, squared = 4)* pi * 0.040 = 0.50), then going by the cubic inch to cubic centimeter conversion table on:

http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/EASYvolume.html

We can see that the approx amount of combustion chamber volume that the extra gasket added is about 8.2 cc. Assuming a 54 cc combustion chamber, the difference is about 15%. If you had 10:1 compression ration before, then you can say you had roughly 540 cc being squished down into 54 cc. So assuming the same 540 cc, now being squeezed into a 62.2 cc chamber, your compression ratio has dropped to about 8.7:1. Thats a 1.3 "point" drop and if the rule of thumb is correct, you lost about 13% of your horsepower. If you had 225 horsepower before, you are looking at 196 horsepower now.


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V8 Thumper
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posted 05-03-2003 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Their catalog lists a .040" gasket for the 289/302 and a .030" gasket for a 302/351 SVO, but they also make custom gaskets.


They built me a pair of MLS (Multi-Layer Spring steel) gaskets for my motor, .030 compressed. That's as thin as they can make an MLS gasket, since it's three indivudal layers, .010 being as thin as they can make each layer. They are top-shelf premium custom gaskets, made to order. Get ready for sticker shock

I buzz my high-compression, aluminum headed-iron block stroker 7000 rpm all the time, no problem

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MAV
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posted 05-03-2003 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAV   Click Here to Email MAV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just bought a set of Cometic MLS gaskets for my 308 they are .025 thick.
They are Part # H1500025S Notice that the
last three digits are 025. They were $145.90 for a pair ,plus shipping and they are reusable.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 05-03-2003 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's pretty cool... they must have developed a new material recently, as I bought my gaskets almost a year ago.

They may be pricey... but definitely worth the peace of mind

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james306
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posted 05-06-2003 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james306   Click Here to Email james306     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i need something like .015" to .020". i want something cheap cause its only temperary. does anyone know where i can get a set? maybe im blind but i cant seem to find anything at moneymakeracing

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Dubz
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posted 05-06-2003 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i need some head gaskets for my 351W as well and was looking to find some thin ones for cheap

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-07-2003 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We used to carry the McCord steel shim SBF .018 gaskets.
McCord was abosrbed up by Victor and they elected to discontinue the product.
Sorry.

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posted 05-07-2003 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think i got about the last set alex had. dont know what i am gonna do at the next freshen up!!!

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posted 05-07-2003 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm working on it.

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