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Topic: What happens at a TEARDOWN ?
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-28-2003 07:38 PM
   
What do they at a "teardown" do they make you take apart evevy thing and how long does it take.Do they go over ever inch of the car,or just the motor.Ok so it's a dumb question but I'm just the guy to ask it.  ------------------
SCOOP
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 7226
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-28-2003 08:34 PM
Alex told me that it comes all the way down. Even have to pull a vale or two out of the heads for inspection.  SteveW
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1348
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 04-29-2003 12:10 AM
Beth said that they took off one head, measured CC's, bore, stroke, etc.Alex can confirm.  Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored
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Stephen & Horace Johnson
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From: Gadsden, AL
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 04-29-2003 12:32 AM
They also check the wheel base of the car.. at least they did us.. We also had to put the car in a gear to check to see if the trans was clutchless..------------------
Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
NHRA-IHRA SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane (Ex-Van Cleve)
1985 Mustang FFW True Street 11.86 @115mph (N/A)
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JCQuinn@work
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From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 04-29-2003 11:03 AM
I haven't been through a teardown since they had to check cam duration in stockers but it hasn't changed much (I think). The degree of dis-assembly depends on what the sanctioning body is checking for at the time. Sometimes they will just pull the head of their choosing, measure combustion chamber cc's, measure the valves, look at the ports and maybe cc them, and measure the bore and stroke of one cylinder.Sometimes they will make you pull the pan and even remove a piston. They look for different things at different time. The theory is that if they check everything on some cars occasionally, the rest of the racers will be legal because they could get anything checked. In stock eliminator they also check cam lift. they also look at manifold numbers on stockers and check carburetors on both stockers and superstockers. The racer gets to do all the work and buy all the gaskets and go without sleep if the teardown is done late. The last time I did it we got done with the teardown about 11PM and I had to be at the track at 8:00 the next morning. We hadn't even secured a motel room at that point. We towed 500 miles friday night slept a little in the truck and went straight to the track saturday morning. Set the record and went straight to the teardown barn at about 5pm. Took the motor apart got everything checked and went looking for a motel. Got a room put the car partly back together in the parking lot and cleaned up and slept about three hours. Went to the track next morning put the car the rest of the way together and raced. Started the 500 mile trip home as soon as the race ended so we could be back at work on monday morning. Got about six hours sleep the whole weekend, set a national record, don't remember how many rounds we went but we didn't win. Of such things priceless memories are made. I've never done anything in my life that was as enjoyable as chasing points in class drag racing. (I am excluding raising my son, that is the best thing ever) John [This message has been edited by JCQuinn@work (edited 04-29-2003).]
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1348
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 04-29-2003 11:12 AM
John, I was thinking the same thing about Alex. You and Alex's crews must have been wrenching like John Force's pit crew. I admit, it sounds like a lot of fun!! A mission!! I don't turn wrenches for a living, so when I do, I really enjoy it. Adding the time constraints, accuracy, precision, and alertness just adds to the fun factor!! Erik p.s. I would be a cranky pants on the following Monday morning workday.  ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 14201
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-29-2003 01:07 PM
Thats a lot of work for sure.Like Erik said to me it's still fun.Well everything but my dam HEADERS. Even weren't that bad.I didn't know it was your parts money too.I don;t know how you guys race with that little sleep.I can't get by on less then 4 hours sleep.Well unless it's something I really love and there are only two things that are worth missing sleep for.------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1348
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
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posted 04-29-2003 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Well unless it's something I really love and there are only two things that are worth missing sleep for.
Torquing in the bed!! And Torquing on the car!! Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-29-2003 06:53 PM
John about summed it all up. 3/4 dissassembly and complete measurement and inspcetion. Wheel base was also checked and transmissions verified for legality.
Crew consisted of Tony, me, and Beth.
About eight hours total for two cars down and back up running. Popped off on the first crank and drove them both back to the pits.
Most of the time was consumed by waiting on the offcials to check the parts. There were a total of 11 cars in tear down that set records. Marty Buth's car was especially tough as not only did he have to check the engine, but the turbo also. We all made it just fine. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 14201
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 04-29-2003 07:17 PM
WOW 8 hours if it was me,I'd still be at the track.With my laptop emailing you like crazy "so this parts goes were".
Good job and that just impresses the heck out of me.That you do your own work,reaserch and you drive too,and you spend as much time as you do helping others on here.With questions that I'm sure you've covered 1000's of times.Thanks Alex All you racers are the reason guys like me can do this for fun. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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