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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-28-2003 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you had my car,and liminted money.
In short this is what I have now.
A well used 351w,with a performer cam,RPM intake,Holley 600 VS,PertronixII with coil,Ford racing wires,Cold air induction,Trac lok 3.40 gears,lift bars,90-10 no sway bar,torque over strap,2200 stall converter.
So what would the next thing ou'd start saving for ?
I was thinking sticky tires would be good.
But what are your idea's,or suggestions.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

"Experience is what you get when you didn't get
what you wanted."

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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F551
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From: Manitoba, Canada
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posted 03-28-2003 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F551   Click Here to Email F551     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sticky tires are good!
More Gear
Any used Aluminum heads on the market down there?

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Fred
68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs"
86 Mustang GT Cobra

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Hans olsson
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posted 03-28-2003 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans olsson   Click Here to Email Hans olsson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ballast in the trunk
Shift kit
Small diameter crankshaft pulley

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  • 71 Mach1 351c
  • E/SA 11.89-110 mph
  • F/SA 11.76-111 mph

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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-28-2003 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hans olsson:
Ballast in the trunk
Shift kit
Small diameter crankshaft pulley


I just put the battery in trunk,and I have a good shift kit now.Just no reverse right now.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

"Experience is what you get when you didn't get
what you wanted."

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

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Hans olsson
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posted 03-28-2003 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans olsson   Click Here to Email Hans olsson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synthetic rear gear and tranny fluid.
Ajustable rear shock absorbers.

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  • 71 Mach1 351c
  • E/SA 11.89-110 mph
  • F/SA 11.76-111 mph

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[email protected]
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From: Lakewood, CO, USA
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posted 03-28-2003 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least a 4.11 gear. I have driven a street car with a 4.56 and didn't mind, in fact I loved it. Just don't go on trips.
For the street/strip cat I'm building now I keep wavering between 4.88 and 5.13 I am not going to drive long trips just short quick ones.

Next start watching e-bay for some GT-40 heads. improved airflow and cast iron dependability. I paid $400 for a pair complete with valves, springs, etc. Another member just got a pair for $350.

John

(Oh, did I mention I am also nuts, but I have fun)

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Dubz
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posted 03-28-2003 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
head work
gears

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Fastymz
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posted 03-28-2003 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by [email protected]:

John

(Oh, did I mention I am also nuts, but I have fun)


Glad to see I'm not alone.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

"Experience is what you get when you didn't get
what you wanted."

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 03-28-2003 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCOOP,
I'll second the motion on the sticky tires! -- You'll REALLY like having sticky tires!!

But wait just a minute...make sure you get the size tires that you need/want....

What rpm do you go thru the lights at with that gear? As Fred mentioned, more gear may be in order (4.11 or 4.30); as long as you don't "out rev" your cams recommended power range.

Go to the race calculator at:

http://www.superford.org/garage/calculators/index.php#finding_rpm

Once there, play around with different gear & tire size combos that still work within your cam & heads power/rpm range. If you plan on leaning towards the high side of the rpm range, then the gears and tire size should still work OK for you if down the line you decide to spring for a bigger cam or heads!

-- This is fun, isn't it?!

Good Luck!
Ryan

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Fastymz
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posted 03-28-2003 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My tires now are 25" tall,and my rpm's are 4400rpm at 91mph.
With my cam and heads,I really need to stay below 5500rpm.
I think 3.80 gears with 26" tall tires.Would work good together.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

"Experience is what you get when you didn't get
what you wanted."

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

[This message has been edited by Fastymz (edited 03-28-2003).]

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stinger
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posted 03-28-2003 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinger   Click Here to Email stinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gears or heads

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jsracingbbf
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posted 03-28-2003 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Move your leaf springs inside the frame so that later you can buy some offset rims and much larger tires. It isn't expensive to do this. It isn't that difficult either, but it does involve some labor.

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Jerry
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag
70 Mustang retired former footbrake car
Jerry: (speaking to Jeff) " you gonna take your doors off first round time trials?"
Jeff: (chevy guy, friend) No stupid why would I wanna do that?
Jerry: thought you might want to save them since I'm gonna blow them off anyway ( shrug walk off)

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mustangboy
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posted 03-28-2003 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tires,if your having trouble hooking up what you've got now making more power will only make it worse.

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1968 mustang j-code [email protected] 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html

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indyphil
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posted 03-29-2003 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im about to get an electric fan, thats good for a little more power. heads will probably help a bunch, but I would do the tyres before the heads for the reason mustangboy listed. Depends if you want to go faster on the track or just burn more rubber and have fun with more power.

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bluestreek
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posted 03-29-2003 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get some sticky tires and then spend some bucks on a lot of good track time to get the best out of what you already have. Don't make too many changes at once. Changes only makes the tuning more confusing and you never know what your best baseline really is. Just make the car dependable, predictable, and then feel it out.

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1966 Mustang Coupe: Custom glass hood and BIG scoop sits atop a 289 stroked to 331 c.i., Steel crank and girdle, 5.4 H-beams, Forged slugs, TFS alum. heads, ported Stealth 8020 intake, Xtreme 274 Solid Roller, Holley 750 HP, long tubes, 4speed, 9" 3.50 posi.
2nd pass: 12.11 @ 114 mph
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69 Sportsroof
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posted 03-29-2003 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holley 650 DP.

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steve'66
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posted 03-29-2003 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bluestreek:
Get some sticky tires and then spend some bucks on a lot of good track time to get the best out of what you already have. Don't make too many changes at once. Changes only makes the tuning more confusing and you never know what your best baseline really is. Just make the car dependable, predictable, and then feel it out.


This is the best advice yet!

Race it and learn to bracket race, the car will follow.

SteveW

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Dubz
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posted 03-30-2003 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and get gears....and send me your old ones instead of trashing them

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streetstang67
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posted 03-30-2003 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fastyms,
do you like your cam? How much power increase did you get? I was thinking about a similar one on my car.

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Ken&Shell
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posted 03-30-2003 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken&Shell   Click Here to Email Ken&Shell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's your objective darlin? Anyone can throw $$ at a car.


Shell

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itlbrnmoff
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posted 03-31-2003 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itlbrnmoff   Click Here to Email itlbrnmoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly!!
That 600cfm vacuum carb could be a bottleneck for that RPM intake, but then again, so could the stock heads?
I think you will really like the throttle response of a DP carb, and it's more tuneable.
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
Holley 650 DP.

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Low Dollar 1983 Mustang GT W/T-tops...
306 4bbl. T-5 3.45 trac-loc...it'll burn 'em off
1988 Lincoln LSC
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Fastymz
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posted 03-31-2003 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ken&Shell:
What's your objective darlin? Anyone can throw $$ at a car.


Shell


This is a great question.
My objective is as in life just to have fun.

I drive my car about 2-3 days a week only in the spring and summer.And most the time not more then 30 miles a week.

I'd like the car to run in the low 13's or high 12's at Fallon about 4200 feet.I also enjoy going to small local car shows.And wednesday night cruise is a must.

So I'm trying to get a low 13's car. That I can jump in any day of the week and cruise around in.
I'd also like to get to 2-3 races a year.Because of my work I can't make it to more then that.

One last thing it needs to as low buck as it can be.

SteveW & Dan,I agree with both of you 100%.I need to get to more races with it.I'd like to bracket race it this year at least twice.

Thanks all for the idea's and help.

I like to try and plan head as much as I can.So that way I know what kind of work and money the next project will take.

Thanks


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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

"Experience is what you get when you didn't get
what you wanted."

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

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