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JoeD1860
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Posts: 48
From: Arizona
Registered: Mar 2003

posted 03-24-2003 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoeD1860     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do any of you guys use them? I was thinking about mounting one simply to save horsepower when racing. Is it worth the effort?
I only have three and one-half inches between the rad and my pulley. Can I get a big enough fan in that space? How big, diameter and CFM, is necessary for a small block with moderate power?

Joe

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Fastymz
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posted 03-24-2003 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joe I use one,it helped to cool the off.I use the black magic brand.There is about a 1/2 clearence from the fan and the water pump.Get the biggest CFM fan you can.

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stoker
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From: folsom,cal,
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posted 03-24-2003 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoker   Click Here to Email stoker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i used tauras fan,it is a bad boy.the CFM is phenominal 3000+ but you need a big alt.it pulls 40 amps continuos.i had to move my radiator forward on 65 because even aftr trimming shroud you still need 4.25 inch between waterpump and rad

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bluestreek
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From: Athens,GA
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posted 03-24-2003 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love my electric fan. They are especially good in slow traffic or when waiting in line or staging. I use a standard size 3 core copper rad on my 331 with the custom fit fan/shroud from HotrodAir:

http://www.hotrodair.com/pg21a.cfm

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1966 Mustang Coupe: Custom glass hood and BIG scoop sits atop a 289 stroked to 331 c.i., Steel crank and girdle, 5.4 H-beams, Forged slugs, TFS alum. heads, ported Stealth 8020 intake, Xtreme 274 Solid Roller, Holley 750 HP, long tubes, 4speed, 9" 3.50 posi.
1st pass: 12.50 @ 112 mph
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n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 03-24-2003 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bluestreek:
I love my electric fan. They are especially good in slow traffic or when waiting in line or staging. I use a standard size 3 core copper rad on my 331 with the custom fit fan/shroud from HotrodAir:

http://www.hotrodair.com/pg21a.cfm


That's the Derale #16926

It costs $119 from Summit, fits 65-66 mustangs perfectly, and is only 3-1/4" thick. It's built in shround measures 15-3/4" x 15-3/4".

Hotrod air sells it with a relay and wiring, and sells it as their AC electric fan.

I purchased one for my car, and it moves a LOT of air. I can't think of a fan that would fit a 65-66 mustang better.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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JoeD1860
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From: Arizona
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posted 03-25-2003 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoeD1860     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys. I am going to purchase the fan Mike talks about.

Joe

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RPM289
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From: Phenix City, AL
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 03-25-2003 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RPM289   Click Here to Email RPM289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stoker:
i used tauras fan,it is a bad boy.the CFM is phenominal 3000+ but you need a big alt.it pulls 40 amps continuos.i had to move my radiator forward on 65 because even aftr trimming shroud you still need 4.25 inch between waterpump and rad

What year Tarus did you get it from? I may need a bigger one and as luck would have it I have a 89 Tarus in the yard with a bad tranny

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66' Mustang,289,4 speed overdrive.
95' Lightning #2218
65' Mustang,Tubbed, Rear cage ladder bars / coil over's, 5.13:1 N-case 9in.31 spline, 302, soon to be a 4 speed.

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rockafellz
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From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
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posted 03-25-2003 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ron,

Do you have an electric fan and a mechanical fan connected to you water pump? If so, does it flow even more air?

Erik

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MrXerox
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From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 03-25-2003 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrXerox   Click Here to Email MrXerox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a writeup on fordmuscle.com on the Tarus fan swap and they claim it to be a little over 2000cfm which is still good, but not quite 3000+

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stoker
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From: folsom,cal,
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posted 03-25-2003 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoker   Click Here to Email stoker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just looked up derale electric fan part#16926 that n20 mike is refering to.it is rated at 1900 cfm and pulls 23 amps.well the two speed fan i got from 93 tauras pulls 40 continous amps on high speed.i would bet it pulls close to 3000cfm

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Fastymz
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posted 03-26-2003 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rockafellz:
Hey Ron,

Do you have an electric fan and a mechanical fan connected to you water pump? If so, does it flow even more air?

Erik


No just an electric fan,it works great.You should not need both.With the little Rad's in 65-66 Mustangs I'd think a pusher fan on the outside will get in the way of air flow.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

"Why do people who know the least know it the
loudest?"

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 03-26-2003 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stoker:
i just looked up derale electric fan part#16926 that n20 mike is refering to.it is rated at 1900 cfm and pulls 23 amps.well the two speed fan i got from 93 tauras pulls 40 continous amps on high speed.i would bet it pulls close to 3000cfm

I hooked the new Derale fan up to my big battery charger (which has an amp gage) and it showed 19 continuous amps... which is right in line with the fan's rating. I also hooked up the old fan rated at 1600cfm. The new one blew WAY harder than the old one! Either the old one was over rated, or the Derale is under rated. It moves some serious air. It's got a really powerful motor that would work great at pulling air through thick radiators.

Those Taurus fans, etc. might be good for vehicles with wider radiators, but this Derale is the most powerful fan for it's size I've found. The 65-66 mustang's radiator core is only around 16"x16", and the Derale #16926 fits it perfectly. It actually looks like some sort of OEM unit. It's a top quality piece. I used some fairly thick 1/2" wide self adhesive weather stripping to seal the shroud to the core. I then mounted a relay to activate the unit since it draws so many amps.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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70spoiler
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From: Cottage Grove, MN
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 03-26-2003 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70spoiler   Click Here to Email 70spoiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have twin spal fans on my car along with the Ron Francis thermostat kit. Spal rates the 2 11" fans at 2780 CFM. All I can say is keep your hat on tight when these come on . Spal makes many OEM fans, maybe the Taurus has one? I will have to look at my SHO tonight to check it out.

Spal has a single 16" fan rated at 2360 CFM.
Check them out at http://www.spal-usa.com/html/dampframe.htm

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