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stinger
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posted 03-19-2003 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinger   Click Here to Email stinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother was looking at a pair for $400 on ebay that are ported. The item is #2407737202 He was going too put them on his 302. He doesnt have alot of money too spend on heads if he wants too keep working on his car and he figured they would be a upgrade over his stock heads. I said I would ask here.

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posted 03-19-2003 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know anything about these heads except that they are the 86 Mustang heads that did not work very well in stock condition. Ford only used them one year and switched to a better design. What I don't know is how well they respond to porting. If I was buying I would hold out for a better design as a starting point.

If you keep watching e-bay you will find gt-40 heads from time to time. They usually go between $400 and $550. These are the heads used on 93-95 Cobras and Lightenings. They have completely different ports than the other 5.0 heads and work pretty well without porting. The GTP heads have essentially the same ports but have header issues.

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posted 03-19-2003 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just looked at ebay and there is a pair of gt-40 heads for sale with a Buy it Now option for $350. If you don't hurry I may buy them myself.

item=2407919876

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stinger
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posted 03-19-2003 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinger   Click Here to Email stinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quinn, i sent u a email.

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posted 03-19-2003 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by [email protected]:
I don't know anything about these heads except that they are the 86 Mustang heads that did not work very well in stock condition.

John



I'd argue that point a little bit John.
CORDOVA, Ill. - Final order after 3 rounds of qualifying in Earl{s Stock at the Hooters IHRA Drag Racing Series, 6th annual Amalie Oil Summer Nationals:

Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 5455 I/SA Jerry Stealy, E. Moline IL, '86 Camaro 11.154 12.60 -1.446
2 5120 D/PS Lyn Smith, Pontiac IL, '72 Grand Sport 11.780 13.20 -1.420
3 5815 K/SA Bill Rink, Naperville IL, '74 GTO 11.717 12.95 -1.233
4 5595 N/SA Jay Roeder, Waverly IA, '89 Mustang 12.143 13.30 -1.157

5 53 P/SA Anatol Denysenko, Lyons IL, '86 Capri 12.599 13.75 -1.151

6 500 C/CM Dave Duell, Evansville IN, '68 Barracuda 10.291 11.40 -1.109
7 360 J/CM Laverne Eberst, Chardon OH, '80 Volare 11.513 12.60 -1.087
8 5639 E/SA Ron Folk, Durand IL, '95 Firebird 10.933 12.00 -1.067
9 5144 N/S Bob Gipson, Bettendorf IA, '65 Chevelle 12.193 13.25 -1.057
10 5000 F/SA Craig Meseroll, Cloquet MN, '74 Dart 11.105 12.15 -1.045
11 51 G/SA Jamey Picht, Oakdale MN, '72 Grand Sport 11.275 12.30 -1.025
12 57 I/S Rob Turkal, Rapid City IL, '80 Camaro 11.499 12.50 -1.001


You are correct about the GT-40 heads. They are a much better deal and work great as is.

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posted 03-19-2003 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex I've always wondered how that Capri runs so good with heads that are universally slammed in every printed evaluation I have ever read. Of course I know that any savvy racer has ways (legal) to make heads work better. And I am sure you would not do any of the many illegal ways to improve heads. If you don't mind, how good are the heads compared to say the E7's.

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posted 03-19-2003 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you know what you are doing (as you do John)they are better within the scope of the NHRA rules.
Allowable aftermarket valves and a very, very special valve job along with the highest compression of all the HO 5.0 302's makes for a potant package. We make almost as much HP as any of the best non Cobra 87 up HO's in stock eliminator.
If we had the 87-up upper and lower intake, 60mm TB and spacer we would make more than the 87 up. (the 86 is only 57mm)

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Alex Denysenko
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stinger
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posted 03-19-2003 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinger   Click Here to Email stinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, we broke down and bought them. thanks for the heads up u two! what do u suggest for a header for these? Hooker? Its in a 66 stang.

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posted 03-19-2003 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stinger:
well, we broke down and bought them. thanks for the heads up u two! what do u suggest for a header for these? Its in a 66 stang.


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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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stinger
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posted 03-19-2003 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinger   Click Here to Email stinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mm, u already told me those flowtech headers wont work on a 351w in a 66 stang. Is your memory short, ha, ha!

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posted 03-19-2003 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOPS! Duh, I forgot you have a 351.

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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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