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Topic: Make me 400 hp
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-17-2003 05:47 PM
   
Allright, here is a test. (don't worry, it's an open book test, and/or there are no rubber gloves envolved)Gimme your best setup that would make about 400hp and approx prices when available carb is allready chosen to be a 670 Street Avenger have at er
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65_289
Gearhead Posts: 761
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Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 03-17-2003 06:13 PM
Junkyard 5.0L and a 200 shot.  Displacement or forced induction makes it easier. A 351 will make 400hp with no sweat. Are there any constraints on it? N/A, only 302 cubes, etc etc?
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-17-2003 06:19 PM
Dubz,dont have a 351w?
If so 10.5 compression,RPM heads,270s cam and a RPM intake should get you real close to 400hp.
Thats just my guess.  ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-17-2003 06:32 PM
sorry for not telling about the current engineWell running 351W (nothing needs to be replaced) 74 motor with all the smog crud NA [This message has been edited by Dubz (edited 03-17-2003).]
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 945
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-17-2003 06:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dubz:
sorry for not telling about the current engineWell running 351W (nothing needs to be replaced) 74 motor with all the smog crud NA [This message has been edited by Dubz (edited 03-17-2003).]
SCAT 393 stroker crank, Comp 274 extreme energy cam, Stock rods with ARP Bolts, KB hyper pistons,
Roush 200 (cleaned up) heads, Performer RPM airgap, and headers.
Ooops sorry, that probably 425 to 450 horse
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 652
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-17-2003 08:05 PM
Car Craft did it with a 78 351.
.Victor JR intake
.Speedomotive engine kit-10.1 pistons
.Stock heads CNC ported from Power heads with 1.94/1.60 valves
.Clay Smith solid lifter cam
.258 [email protected] with 560L
.Long tube headers(doesn't specify).
.405hp@5800/391ft/lbs@4500
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.HOT ROD did it with the junkyard jewel
.stock 1969 351
.GT-40X heads
>performer rpm intake
.Comp Cams 280H [email protected]/512L
.>15/8 headers
402hp@5700rpm/400ft/lbs@4200
.Same engine with GTP heads made 380hp.
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Mustang Monthly did it with
.performer rpm heads 1.90/1.60 valves
.matching rpm cam 224/[email protected]/496/520L
.performer rpm intake
.9.1 compression
.410hp@6000rpm and 411.4ft/lbs@4500
.All of the above combo's used a holley 750 carb------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/mustangboy.html
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-17-2003 08:29 PM
SteveW (with M&M's help) did it with a '74 351w, 282S cam, 10-1 forged pistons, Edelbrock RPM heads, an RPM intake, duraspark distributor, and a .....you guessed it,
a Holley 750 on top. SteveW
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-17-2003 08:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
SteveW (with M&M's help) did it with a '74 351w, 282S cam, 10-1 forged pistons, Edelbrock RPM heads, an RPM intake, duraspark distributor, and a .....you guessed it,
a Holley 750 on top. SteveW
I'd listen to Steve's advice,he's already been there.
It's always better to take the advice of the OLD guys.  ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-17-2003 09:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
It's always better to take the advice of the OLD guys.
Whoa are you calling old!  You should wipe that milk off your lips, and take the bottle outta your mouth. Jr's should respect thier, well "elders". LOL SteveW
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-17-2003 09:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Whoa are you calling old! You should wipe that milk off your lips, and take the bottle outta your mouth. Jr's should respect thier, well "elders". LOL SteveW
Yes sir,
Don't get to worked up. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-17-2003 10:25 PM
could I do it with a Holley 670 and World's Iron Heads? (as well as the other goodies, no i do not think just a carb and heads will make that power)[This message has been edited by Dubz (edited 03-17-2003).]
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MrWesson22
Gearhead Posts: 1209
From: Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 03-17-2003 11:01 PM
If not, I've got a 770 street avenger for sale. 
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Neal 69 Gulfstream Aqua Grande
351C/4sp
https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/MrWesson22.html
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-18-2003 12:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Dubz:
could I do it with a Holley 670 and World's Iron Heads? (as well as the other goodies, no i do not think just a carb and heads will make that power)[This message has been edited by Dubz (edited 03-17-2003).]
You'll come close, but w/o a little porting you'll be a bit short. SteveW
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-18-2003 12:24 AM
Well in the last week or so i have decided that this car (my first car that i purchased, 74 Gran Torino) will be a 95% street car, so over 400 hp will be too much. As well as expensive when i'm only 20 and going to university. Plus a smaller car such as another mustang (i had a 70 Grande) but an earlier style, or a newer car would be good for a BIG build up, just as a weekend cruiser
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-18-2003 12:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mustangboy:
Mustang Monthly did it with
.performer rpm heads 1.90/1.60 valves
.matching rpm cam 224/[email protected]/496/520L
.performer rpm intake
.9.1 compression
.410hp@6000rpm and 411.4ft/lbs@4500
.All of the above combo's used a holley 750 carb
So with a
-670cfm Street Avenger (advertized as 300-400 hp)
-270H from Comp Cams (224/224 and .500/.500)
-World 64cc combustion chamber, 200cc intake runners, cast iron, Roush 200 cylinder heads, 2.02 in. intake and 1.60 in. exhaust
-maybe 1.7 roller rockers to increase lift and duration by a couple degrees
-performer rpm air gap intake
-9.5 to 10.0:1 compression i should be able to hit 400 [This message has been edited by Dubz (edited 03-18-2003).]
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-18-2003 12:37 AM
Dubz,That may or may not hit the number, but it would be a great street motor and run like a raped ape. SteveW
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-18-2003 12:59 AM
good to hear!!
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-18-2003 01:05 AM
i could allways toss a Powershot in the trunk if i find the chevs around here are too tuff
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-18-2003 01:58 AM
Dubz that sound like a great motor you putting together.And theres no such thing as to much power but there sure is not enough money. 670cfm Street Avenger (advertized as 300-400 hp)
-270H from Comp Cams (224/224 and .500/.500)
-World 64cc combustion chamber, 200cc intake runners, cast iron, Roush 200 cylinder heads, 2.02 in. intake and 1.60 in. exhaust
-maybe 1.7 roller rockers to increase lift and duration by a couple degrees
-performer rpm air gap intake
-9.5 to 10.0:1 compression I'd be real happy to have motor like that.
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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-18-2003 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Dubz that sound like a great motor you putting together.And theres no such thing as to much power but there sure is not enough money.
Right Now she is bone stock, and i need seats, as well as a paint job, so all the engine work might not get done this year....If you have a car money is always low!! A Quote From Mad Max "Speed is just a question of money, how fast do you want to go?" (or something similar)
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-18-2003 02:20 AM
Brakes,suspension,trans,and motor,then seats and paint.
Thats the way I think cars should be done.
I did brakes and trans and most of the interior all but the front seats.The rest is getting done alittle at a time.Thats a great motor set up your thinking of doing. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-18-2003 02:25 AM
thanksi have no front seats at the moment, so i will need something before i can drive it....looking at getting some Corbeau CR1's in grey cloth or black... http://www.corbeau.com/brochure/images/CR1_grey.jpg a friend of mine had them in his 944, as soon as my ass hit the seat i knew i needed to get them
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-18-2003 02:43 AM
Just today I was looking at those at Summit Racing.They are real cool,but I'd save my money for other things for now.Is there a junk yard near you?
If so go check out some newer T-birbs or Mustang seats the look good and are nice to sit in.And for around $100 or less for the pair you can;t go wrong.------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 652
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-18-2003 11:44 AM
Not to get off topic but having no seats reminded me of my first vehicle a 66 ford pickup.I bought it as a shell and put in a motor and tranny and I just had to take it out for a spin even though it had no seats and was far from roadworthy.I was sitting on my metal toolbox,got her up to about 30 mph and the two peice driveshaft came apart and the front of the rear driveshaft dug in and lifted the rear end of the truck about two feet in the air.Man when that thing landed I came down on the edge of that tool box in a very "sensitive" area.Luckily I was still able to have children .Anyhow I can see the importance of seats!
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