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Fastymz
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posted 03-13-2003 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would the 66 motor and frame mounts help my headers fit better.
I can't do the change over right now.But maybe next year,or when I have alittle cash.Can I just take the frame mounts from any 66 V8 car.And then buy new 66 motor mounts,and it all bolts up with out any problems.
I was told that would lower my motor another 1" does any one know if thats ture.

Thanks for the help.

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ekbeanctr
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posted 03-13-2003 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop, I think the 66 mounts actually raise the motor about an inch. I know on the Hooker Header instructions, they require the 66 motor mounts because it gives the headers more room. I switched to them on my 65 351W conversion and they bolted right in. Ernie

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Fastymz
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posted 03-13-2003 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I raise the motor any more my collectors will be a foot rest.
Ok so thats out for now,or at least until I get some HOOKERS in my car.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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clevelandstyle
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posted 03-13-2003 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
...........,or at least until I get some HOOKERS in my car.



I guess that's legal in Nevada?

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steve'66
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posted 03-13-2003 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
If I raise the motor any more my collectors will be a foot rest.
Ok so thats out for now,or at least until I get some HOOKERS in my car.


Ron, Matt, or whatever the heck your name is. LOL

The Heddman's in the '66 back when it had a 351w in it needed to be modified. The collectors needed to be lowered 1/2". So, no don't use '66 mounts.

The Hooker super comps didn't need to be modified.

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Fstln69
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posted 03-13-2003 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fstln69   Click Here to Email Fstln69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop ,if your hedmans are like mine......oh boy! i had to cut and angle the collector down to clear the crossmember so i could put on an exhaust (what Garbage)i can't wait to change over to HOOKERS myself then i am going to beat my hedmans into oblivion with a LARGE sledge.260to351w my A***

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Fastymz
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posted 03-13-2003 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Ron, Matt, or whatever the heck your name is. LOL

The Heddman's in the '66 back when it had a 351w in it needed to be modified. The collectors needed to be lowered 1/2". So, no don't use '66 mounts.

The Hooker super comps didn't need to be modified.

SteveW


How did you lower them ??

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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steve'66
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posted 03-13-2003 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
How did you lower them ??



With a sawzall and a wire welder.

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Fastymz
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posted 03-13-2003 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
With a sawzall and a wire welder.

SteveW


So you cut them off just after the tubes come into them.And point them down and reweld them back on?
I'm sorry if I don't get it,I sure wish Matt was here to help me.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-13-2003 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Scoop, box them babies up, send them to me, I'll hack them off and re-weld them

Oh hey... I got that article in the mail! Very cool! Muchas gracias!

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steve'66
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posted 03-13-2003 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
So you cut them off just after the tubes come into them.And point them down and reweld them back on?
I'm sorry if I don't get it,I sure wish Matt was here to help me.


Yeah Matt's a lot smarter. He owns a store. LOL

Yes angle them down, then your exhaust needs to angle up to meet them at a lower point.

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Fastymz
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posted 03-13-2003 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Yeah Matt's a lot smarter. He owns a store. LOL

Yes angle them down, then your exhaust needs to angle up to meet them at a lower point.

SteveW


I hate to take them off again.It's real hard for me to get my hands in to start the bolts.
I might just see if I can turn the exhaust up to meet it.
I only have 2.25 exhaust pipe so maybe it's work for now.
I plan on redoing the system with 2.5 pipe next year.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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Fstln69
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posted 03-13-2003 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fstln69   Click Here to Email Fstln69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know hedman should stop advertising them for 351w..they dont fit 351w period.......look at all the work we have all done to make them work...i see a lynching coming aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

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steve'66
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posted 03-13-2003 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah,

But, they are $200 cheaper.

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Fstln69
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posted 03-14-2003 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fstln69   Click Here to Email Fstln69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Yeah,

But, they are $200 cheaper.

SteveW



Thats the way i looked at it steve but i also had these headers on the 302 before the 351w and they fit nice with the 302.But after talking with Alex fit is not the only reason to switch to the HOOKERS.My headers for my other hotrod are going to cost $850 with no coating

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Fastymz
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posted 03-14-2003 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So how bad is it if one of the primary tubes rest agaist the lower back side of the passenger shock tower.I can get a feeler gauge in there and thats it.The motor torques to the left if your facng it ?

Or should take the ****ing header back off beat the ****ing **** out of that tube?

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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stoker
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posted 03-14-2003 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoker   Click Here to Email stoker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you think about it,it is hard to believe 66 mounts raise engine one inch,because of bellcrank mounts in stick application would be way off.am i out there?please educate

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