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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-06-2003 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone ever tried this? My father-in-law has a cool '63 1/2 Galaxie with a transplanted 429, and reasonably priced headers are not to be found for this motor in this car. FPS has shorties, but they're damned expensive for glorified exhaust manifolds. I can weld and do have access to welding equipment.

Am I nuts?

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Fastymz
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posted 03-06-2003 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a magazine article at home about how to make your own headers.I'll try to find it for you.

Yes your nuts.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-06-2003 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:

Yes your nuts.


thank you


Seriously, I'd love to see an article on it. Hey, are you working?

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-06-2003 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd use the stock manifolds with a home grwon port job before I would buy or use ANY shorty headers.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-06-2003 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I'd use the stock manifolds with a home grwon port job before I would buy or use ANY shorty headers.



Exactally. That's why I'm wiling to invest a whole bunch of hours making him a set of long tube headers. After all, he did give me his daughter... it's the least I can do

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Fastymz
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posted 03-06-2003 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Im here as always.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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rockafellz
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posted 03-06-2003 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:

Exactally. That's why I'm wiling to invest a whole bunch of hours making him a set of long tube headers. After all, he did give me his daughter... it's the least I can do


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Just Strokin
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posted 03-06-2003 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Built the last two sets of headers for my drags cargs. One set for an A arm Alston chassis Pinto with a 351C and the last set use for a Chris Alston A arm round tube chassis with the chebbie port Blue Thunder headed 557.

It is fairly easy if you have paitience, a mig weld, and an oxy-act torch. Bot sets were long tubes.

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Larry

No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel.
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jsracingbbf
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posted 03-06-2003 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just as Larry, I built the last three sets of headers for my car. 1st was for a 351C, 2nd was for a BBF, third was for same BBF with new front chassis, old ones would not fit and they got ripped up in the wreck anyway. Are you nuts to try this. of course. if it was easy everyone would be doing it. ( SEE BELOW ) Is it worth it? YES! IS Jerry any good at it. why H*ll no.
BUT I might get one set right eventually. LOL Actually, everytime I do a set I vow to never do another. I also did a set for a 49 Mercury with a "C" headed ( shaft rocker & diff. exhaust pattern ) 600 cid Big block Ford for a friend of mine up in Senatobia MS. I hate building headers!
Stahl headers makes a really nice kit if you go this route. Everything Larry said in the post above is correct PLUS Patience. Lots of it. I think I am going to get Larry to build my next set, I hope.

good Luck.

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Jerry
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Just Strokin
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posted 03-06-2003 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jerry,

Next set I build, I'll use these to help in their construction.....

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/ES/ESHHA/WeldSlv.html

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Larry

No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel.
And one rusty 64 Fairlane nick-named the Rust Bucket....And sometimes called the Money Pit...

The sounds of a brain dropping into gear.....
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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-06-2003 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool info guys, thanks

'Stahl' headers... got a link?

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jsracingbbf
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posted 03-06-2003 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Just Strokin:
Jerry,

Next set I build, I'll use these to help in their construction.....

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/ES/ESHHA/WeldSlv.html


NOW YOU TELL ME ! GAWD! where are ya when I need ya! No icons can display the river of tears. next time may be soon, I want some EQUAL length coated ones.
JS

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jsracingbbf
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posted 03-06-2003 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.stahlheaders.com/

happy welding, buy some thick welders gloves and a loud radio to cover up the hollerin and cussing your better half may hear during construction. AND BUY THE LITTLE JEWELS THAT LARRY JUST SHOWED EVERYONE. They would be worth their weight in gold. Trust us on this one.
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bluestreek
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posted 03-06-2003 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found this site awhile ago while researching the 331. Has some interesting stuff.

http://www.headersbyed.com/website.htm

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Rory McNeil
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posted 03-06-2003 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering how much room the full sized Galaxies have, it shouldn`t be too bad as far a building headers go. Someday I`ll have to get TomP to take some pics of the cool headers he built for my 428 Fairmont. No cutting of the stock engine compartment,& they tuck up nicely. They are actually farter off the ground than the bottom of my scattershield!

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Fastymz
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posted 03-07-2003 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found the article it's not the best but I think it will help.Where do I send it too.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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F551
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posted 03-07-2003 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F551   Click Here to Email F551     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gonna start building a set for the 68 in the next couple of weeks. We bought a box of bends from "www.schoenfeldheaders.com".
Buying bends and donuts gets expensive.

Hey SCOOP can you scan and Email that article?

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Fred
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Fastymz
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posted 03-07-2003 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by F551:
Gonna start building a set for the 68 in the next couple of weeks. We bought a box of bends from "www.schoenfeldheaders.com".
Buying bends and donuts gets expensive.

Hey SCOOP can you scan and Email that article?



I dont have a scanner but I'll copy it and sent it in the mail for you.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

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WARDF
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posted 03-08-2003 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WARDF   Click Here to Email WARDF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know you're talking about building your own but just in case I think Crites in Ohio makes a long tube set for this application. Might want to look at them.

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mellowyellow
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posted 03-08-2003 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
I have a magazine article at home about how to make your own headers.I'll try to find it for you.

Yes your nuts.


The guy's nuts!! Grab'em!!!

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n2oMike
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posted 03-08-2003 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The latest CAR CRAFT (April issue) has a decent article on building your own headers, complete with plenty of color pictures. I would think it would definitely be a worthwhile read to anyone thinking about building their own headers.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-08-2003 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mellowyellow:
The guy's nuts!! Grab'em!!!

I take pride in that

Thanks for the tip on Car Craft Mike, I'll go pick up a copy

Larry, Jerry, Dan and Rory... I'm gonna use all your names instead of potty-mouth swear words I like the tip about 'turning up the stereo' so your other half can't hear you

Seriously, thanks guys for all the great info It won't be for a while and it'll certainly take a while, but I'm gonna build a set of headers

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F551
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posted 03-08-2003 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for F551   Click Here to Email F551     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ron - sent you an Email.

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Fred
68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs"
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Fastymz
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posted 03-08-2003 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by n2oMike:
The latest CAR CRAFT (April issue) has a decent article on building your own headers, complete with plenty of color pictures. I would think it would definitely be a worthwhile read to anyone thinking about building their own headers.

Good Luck!


Mike that article is better then the one I have.But if you guys want a copy of the old article I have too just email me.

[email protected]

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

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TomP
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posted 03-09-2003 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've built lots of headers and nobody has given me their daughter for them! LOL

Crites restorations (the T-Bolt fiberglass guys)) does make some, $299 i think, they are 2" tubes.

The parts and hassle to make them aren't worth it if you can buy them. In cases where you need something not available, go for it. They can be gas welded together quite satisfactorily.

[This message has been edited by TomP (edited 03-09-2003).]

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