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Topic: Home-made headers???
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 08:36 PM
   
Anyone ever tried this? My father-in-law has a cool  '63 1/2 Galaxie with a transplanted 429, and reasonably priced headers are not to be found for this motor in this car. FPS has shorties, but they're damned expensive for glorified exhaust manifolds. I can weld and do have access to welding equipment. Am I nuts? ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 08:41 PM
I have a magazine article at home about how to make your own headers.I'll try to find it for you.Yes your nuts.  ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Yes your nuts.
thank you 
Seriously, I'd love to see an article on it. Hey, are you working?
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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-06-2003 08:48 PM
I'd use the stock manifolds with a home grwon port job before I would buy or use ANY shorty headers.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I'd use the stock manifolds with a home grwon port job before I would buy or use ANY shorty headers.
Exactally. That's why I'm wiling to invest a whole bunch of hours making him a set of long tube headers. After all, he did give me his daughter... it's the least I can do
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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 09:13 PM
Yes Im here as always.  ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1426
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
Exactally. That's why I'm wiling to invest a whole bunch of hours making him a set of long tube headers. After all, he did give me his daughter... it's the least I can do
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Just Strokin
Gearhead Posts: 754
From: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 09:39 PM
Built the last two sets of headers for my drags cargs. One set for an A arm Alston chassis Pinto with a 351C and the last set use for a Chris Alston A arm round tube chassis with the chebbie port Blue Thunder headed 557.It is fairly easy if you have paitience, a mig weld, and an oxy-act torch. Bot sets were long tubes. ------------------
Larry No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel.
And one rusty 64 Fairlane nick-named the Rust Bucket....And sometimes called the Money Pit... The sounds of a brain dropping into gear.....
"Buzzzzzz.......Click"
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2751
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-06-2003 10:42 PM
Just as Larry, I built the last three sets of headers for my car. 1st was for a 351C, 2nd was for a BBF, third was for same BBF with new front chassis, old ones would not fit and they got ripped up in the wreck anyway. Are you nuts to try this. of course. if it was easy everyone would be doing it. ( SEE BELOW ) Is it worth it? YES! IS Jerry any good at it. why H*ll no.
BUT I might get one set right eventually. LOL Actually, everytime I do a set I vow to never do another. I also did a set for a 49 Mercury with a "C" headed ( shaft rocker & diff. exhaust pattern ) 600 cid Big block Ford for a friend of mine up in Senatobia MS. I hate building headers!
Stahl headers makes a really nice kit if you go this route. Everything Larry said in the post above is correct PLUS Patience. Lots of it. I think I am going to get Larry to build my next set, I hope. good Luck. ------------------
Jerry
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag
70 Mustang retired former footbrake car
" If Bracket Racing was EZ everyone would be doing it!"
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Just Strokin
Gearhead Posts: 754
From: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 10:53 PM
Jerry,Next set I build, I'll use these to help in their construction..... http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/ES/ESHHA/WeldSlv.html  ------------------
Larry No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel.
And one rusty 64 Fairlane nick-named the Rust Bucket....And sometimes called the Money Pit... The sounds of a brain dropping into gear.....
"Buzzzzzz.......Click"
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 10:56 PM
Cool info guys, thanks 'Stahl' headers... got a link? ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2751
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-06-2003 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Just Strokin:
Jerry,Next set I build, I'll use these to help in their construction..... http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/ES/ESHHA/WeldSlv.html
NOW YOU TELL ME ! GAWD!  where are ya when I need ya! No icons can display the river of tears. next time may be soon, I want some EQUAL length coated ones.
JS
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2751
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-06-2003 11:05 PM
http://www.stahlheaders.com/ happy welding, buy some thick welders gloves and a loud radio to cover up the hollerin and cussing your better half may hear during construction. AND BUY THE LITTLE JEWELS THAT LARRY JUST SHOWED EVERYONE. They would be worth their weight in gold. Trust us on this one.
JS
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 03-06-2003 11:12 PM
Found this site awhile ago while researching the 331. Has some interesting stuff. http://www.headersbyed.com/website.htm
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1542
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-06-2003 11:32 PM
Considering how much room the full sized Galaxies have, it shouldn`t be too bad as far a building headers go. Someday I`ll have to get TomP to take some pics of the cool headers he built for my 428 Fairmont. No cutting of the stock engine compartment,& they tuck up nicely. They are actually farter off the ground than the bottom of my scattershield! ------------------
78 Fairmont 428 4 speed 10.20@130mph
80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph
85 Mustang NHRA Stocker under construction, 302 5 speed
59 Meteor (Canadian Ford) 2 dr sedan 332, auto
74 F350 ramp truck 390 4spd
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-07-2003 01:17 PM
I found the article it's not the best but I think it will help.Where do I send it too. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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F551
Gearhead Posts: 245
From: Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-07-2003 01:56 PM
Gonna start building a set for the 68 in the next couple of weeks. We bought a box of bends from "www.schoenfeldheaders.com".
Buying bends and donuts gets expensive.Hey SCOOP can you scan and Email that article?
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Fred
68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs"
86 Mustang GT Cobra
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-07-2003 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by F551:
Gonna start building a set for the 68 in the next couple of weeks. We bought a box of bends from "www.schoenfeldheaders.com".
Buying bends and donuts gets expensive.Hey SCOOP can you scan and Email that article?
I dont have a scanner but I'll copy it and sent it in the mail for you. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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WARDF
Journeyman Posts: 44
From: Cecilia, Ky. USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-08-2003 04:55 AM
I know you're talking about building your own but just in case I think Crites in Ohio makes a long tube set for this application. Might want to look at them.
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 6687
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-08-2003 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
I have a magazine article at home about how to make your own headers.I'll try to find it for you.Yes your nuts.
The guy's nuts!! Grab'em!!!
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2419
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 03-08-2003 09:07 AM
The latest CAR CRAFT (April issue) has a decent article on building your own headers, complete with plenty of color pictures. I would think it would definitely be a worthwhile read to anyone thinking about building their own headers. Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-08-2003 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by mellowyellow:
The guy's nuts!! Grab'em!!!
I take pride in that Thanks for the tip on Car Craft Mike, I'll go pick up a copy Larry, Jerry, Dan and Rory... I'm gonna use all your names instead of potty-mouth swear words I like the tip about 'turning up the stereo' so your other half can't hear you Seriously, thanks guys for all the great info It won't be for a while and it'll certainly take a while, but I'm gonna build a set of headers ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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F551
Gearhead Posts: 245
From: Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-08-2003 11:56 AM
Thanks Ron - sent you an Email.------------------
Fred
68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs"
86 Mustang GT Cobra
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-08-2003 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by n2oMike:
The latest CAR CRAFT (April issue) has a decent article on building your own headers, complete with plenty of color pictures. I would think it would definitely be a worthwhile read to anyone thinking about building their own headers. Good Luck!
Mike that article is better then the one I have.But if you guys want a copy of the old article I have too just email me. [email protected]
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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 5761
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 03-09-2003 06:35 PM
I've built lots of headers and nobody has given me their daughter for them! LOL Crites restorations (the T-Bolt fiberglass guys)) does make some, $299 i think, they are 2" tubes. The parts and hassle to make them aren't worth it if you can buy them. In cases where you need something not available, go for it. They can be gas welded together quite satisfactorily. [This message has been edited by TomP (edited 03-09-2003).]
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