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Topic: CONVERTER HELP
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RONNIE
Journeyman Posts: 49
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-02-2003 09:11 AM
   
I HAVE A 76 COBRAII,I GOT TCI STREET FRIGHTER THEY SAID THE STALL WAS AROUND 3000,BUT WHEN I HAVE IN LOW AND TRY TO BRING RPMS 3000 THE CAR STARTS TO PUSH AROUND 2400 RPMS IS THAT NORMAL? YOU CAN MORE DETAILS ON THE MOTOR AND CAR AT MY SITE AT WWW.RONS.MUSTANGII.NET THANKS RONNIE
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 3385
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-02-2003 09:24 AM
thats normal ronnie, you will never get the advertised stall speed out of a converter. especially without a transbrake.
ease along in high gear and floor it and it should go to the approx. advertised stall speed on the tach. i got a 3700 in my 306 and about 2400 is all i can hold it at. there are many variables in the stall speed. even the size (torque) of your engine will change the stall speed. ok now everybody, go ahead and cretique (sp) my converter lesson here!! lol------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.
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RONNIE
Journeyman Posts: 49
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-02-2003 09:31 AM
THANKS I WIIL GIVE THAT SHOT WHEN THE RAIN STOPS HERE IN MARYLAND RONNIE
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 03-02-2003 11:36 AM
WHat type of valve body do you have? Automatic or full manual? Let me know and I can give you a sure fire test method for measuring your stall speed.------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 3385
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-02-2003 11:45 AM
alex, mine is full manual reverse. let me know the best way to check mine when he gets back with you. thanks------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-02-2003 11:53 AM
OK Mike. It's easy.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Hans olsson
Gearhead Posts: 293
From: Sweden
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 03-02-2003 12:35 PM
Our converter flashes to 5300 rpm,but 3400 is max in stage.The rear brakes and front tires is the limiting factors on our car.
Hans.------------------
- 71 Mach1 351c
- E/SA 11.89-110 mph
- F/SA 11.76-111 mph
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RONNIE
Journeyman Posts: 49
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-02-2003 01:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
WHat type of valve body do you have? Automatic or full manual? Let me know and I can give you a sure fire test method for measuring your stall speed.
ITS A AUTOMATIC VALE BODY THANKS RONNIE
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-02-2003 02:05 PM
OK. Good!
Ronnie, you need to have your car fully warmed up. You pump the sh*t up out of the brake pedal and hold it as hard as you can. Put the shifter in 2nd gear manualy and then floor the gas. Make sure your eyes are on the tach. Your brakes should hold the car fine in 2nd gear. What you tach up to will be your stall speed. You only need to do it for about 2 or 3 seconds tops.
Mike, same drill only you do it in high gear.
Warm it up, pump up the brakes, put the trans in manual high (3rd) gear, and stopm the pedal to the floor. WIthout the mechanical advantage of first gear, you won't overcome the brakes.
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Alex Denysenko
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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RONNIE
Journeyman Posts: 49
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-02-2003 02:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
OK. Good!
Ronnie, you need to have your car fully warmed up. You pump the sh*t up out of the brake pedal and hold it as hard as you can. Put the shifter in 2nd gear manualy and then floor the gas. Make sure your eyes are on the tach. Your brakes should hold the car fine in 2nd gear. WhaTRHAt you tach up to will be your stall speed. You only need to do it for about 2 or 3 seconds tops.
Mike, same drill only you do it in high gear.
Warm it up, pump up the brakes, put the trans in manual high (3rd) gear, and stopm the pedal to the floor. WIthout the mechanical advantage of first gear, you won't overcome the brakes.
THA
THANKS FOR THE FAST REPLY ITS GOING TO BE A DAY OR SO BEFORE I TRY IT RONNIE
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-02-2003 02:47 PM
Alex even with an auto valve body.I can start off in 2nd?
I can only get my car to hold to 1800 and the convertor is a 2400 stall.
I'll try that too when I get it back on the ride.------------------
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-02-2003 02:57 PM
Our convertor won't stall over 2000rpm when brake torqueing but it will FLASH to 3800.Out of the box 10"tci convertor wouldn't flash over 2300rpm when i called tci they said "we build all the convertors behind small block chevys and set the stall from that"  ,i went insane on the phone after that comment.Ended up haveing to have a "race" 10" built to get the stall i wanted.
Dennis------------------
69 fairlane 351w 12.94@103mph before M&M.. after??
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 638
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 03-02-2003 10:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fstln69:
"we build all the convertors behind small block chevys and set the stall from that" , Ended up haveing to have a "race" 10" built to get the stall i wanted.
Dennis
Are they implying that small block chebbies make more power? Those bastages! 
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Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-02-2003 10:37 PM
I told them they were Fargin Iceholes
These means FARGIN WAR!!!!!!!------------------
69 fairlane 351w 12.94@103mph before M&M.. after??
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Fordwiser
Gearhead Posts: 217
From: Metamora, Illinois
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 03-03-2003 06:51 PM
LOL!!!!! Maybe TCI needs a visit from Johnny Dangerouslly!
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-03-2003 11:47 PM
TCI is now owned by Comp cams. That small block chebbie they use on their dyno puts out about 600 HP FYI.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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DRAGSTANG351
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: FLORIDA
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-04-2003 01:43 AM
I never could get my TCI super street fighter
converter to stall more than 2500rpm before it tried to push thru the lights, It was advertised to stall between 3800-4200rpm.kelly
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-04-2003 11:25 AM
Catalog converters seldom meet the advertised stall speed. There are too many variables.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-04-2003 01:59 PM
Being that was the first "advertised"convertor i ever bought i learned that lesson.Guess i will stick to haveing them built for the application
Dennis------------------
69 fairlane 351w 12.94@103mph before M&M.. after??
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-04-2003 02:14 PM
Good idea.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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RONNIE
Journeyman Posts: 49
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-05-2003 06:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fstln69:
I told them they were Fargin Iceholes
These means FARGIN WAR!!!!!!!
THIS IS RONNIE WITH THE 76 COBRAII,I WAS WONDERING WHAT IS YOUR 60FT.MY BEST WAS A 2.20 AT 13.20@105
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RONNIE
Journeyman Posts: 49
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-05-2003 06:25 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RONNIE:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fstln69:
[b]I told them they were Fargin Iceholes
These means FARGIN WAR!!!!!!!
THIS IS RONNIE WITH THE 76 COBRAII,I WAS WONDERING WHAT IS YOUR 60FT.MY BEST WAS A 2.20 AT 13.20@105[/B][/QUOTE]IA,M ASKING THE 69 FAIRLANE ABOUT THE 60FT
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-05-2003 08:44 AM
Ronnie,the best 60ft time so far was 1.76 on a 12.94@103mph run.I loaded the convertor at 2000rpm foot brake and left.Ronnie i just looked at your car very nice!105?Damn now i know i need to get under the hood and figure whats wrong  ------------------
69 fairlane 351w 12.94@103mph before M&M.. after??
always in search of more HP and faster ET'S Fstln69 Pics Page [This message has been edited by Fstln69 (edited 03-05-2003).]
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RONNIE
Journeyman Posts: 49
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-06-2003 06:25 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fstln69:
Ronnie,the best 60ft time so far was 1.76 on a 12.94@103mph run.I loaded the convertor at 2000rpm foot brake and left.Ronnie i just looked at your car very nice!105?Damn now i know i need to get under the hood and figure whats wrong
I THINK THE BIG DIFFERANCE IS THAT MY CAR WEIGHS UNDER 3000 AND I NEED REAL STALL,THATS MY GOAL TO GET IN TO THE 12.S THANKS RONNIE
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