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streetstang67
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posted 02-24-2003 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know gears will help make my car faster, but where? Would they help 0-60, ?-?, where would they improve acceleration, and where would the hurt it? I know they will hurt top speed. Also, where could I get some decent gears? I was thinking that mabye to make up for the loss in top speed, I could get a cam. Only problem is, I don't want to replace the entire valvetrain. I want to increase power, increase redline, and increase gas mileage. What cam would be best for that? I know lifters are a must, and mabye springs(are they hard to install?), but what else? Is there a cam I could get that will significantly improve power, but not have to get new torque converter and valve springs? My engine is relatively new (rebuilt around 4000 miles ago). Its a 289 with 4bbl intake and long tube headers. I know that combination is what makes engines best, and I dont want to just throw a bunch of parts together, I want it to be effecient. Thanks

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-24-2003 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said on another thread, 270S or 270H.
You can get away with stock springs for a while.

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RADRIDE
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posted 02-24-2003 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RADRIDE   Click Here to Email RADRIDE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Increase power,redline, and fuel milage, sorry ,but this wont happen.

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streetstang67
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posted 02-24-2003 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How hard are springs to replace, and how much do they cost? Would springs AND retainers be needed? Would I need to replace my torque converter? I didn't really want to have to do mess with the tranny. I assume you mean that timing chain, pushrods, and rockers can be re-used?

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D&S Induction Systems
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posted 02-25-2003 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D&S Induction Systems   Click Here to Email D&S Induction Systems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted 02-25-2003 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fstln69   Click Here to Email Fstln69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hes cute

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streetstang67
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posted 02-25-2003 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
???

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-25-2003 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're making fun of you.
Don't take it as malicious, it's all in fun.

Speed, power, and fuel economy usually don't mix well.

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posted 02-25-2003 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're making fun of you.
Don't take it as malicious, it's all in fun.

Speed, power, and fuel economy usually don't mix well.

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Alex Denysenko
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Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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streetstang67
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posted 02-25-2003 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know...I thought since I already have a 600 cfm carb, a cam would "put all 600 cfm to good use" ,whereas right now, I don't need it all. Kinda hard to explain what I'm tryin to say. And, since I already have a good setup for air/fuel to go in, and exhaust to go out, a cam would be good.?. One more thing, which would be better bang for buck, gears or cam. Sorry for dumb questions just wanting to know. Thanks

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Fastymz
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posted 02-25-2003 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd do the gears and trac loc 1st.Then next time you have some money do the cam.

Don't worry THEY make fun of me all the time.

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posted 02-25-2003 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:

Don't worry THEY make fun of me all the time.


Nobody makes fun of you Ron it`s the scoop, THE SCOOP

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streetstang67
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posted 02-27-2003 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about a "summit" camshaft. Someone said that I could go with summit's in house cam pn SUM-K3600. It has about the same specs as a 268H but my stock heads have exhaust problems and the exhaust lobes on this cam are a little bigger to deal with that. And it's cheap at $83 and comes with lifters and assembly lube. They also said that this is a budget cam and a budget cam only. It's not meant to turn high rpms and it will not make insane amounts of power, but its a good increase over stock. I dont know anything about summit cams and their quality. What do you think about this? Thanks again

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posted 02-27-2003 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by streetstang67:
What about a "summit" camshaft. Someone said that I could go with summit's in house cam pn SUM-K3600. It has about the same specs as a 268H but my stock heads have exhaust problems and the exhaust lobes on this cam are a little bigger to deal with that. And it's cheap at $83 and comes with lifters and assembly lube. They also said that this is a budget cam and a budget cam only. It's not meant to turn high rpms and it will not make insane amounts of power, but its a good increase over stock. I dont know anything about summit cams and their quality. What do you think about this? Thanks again


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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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streetstang67
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posted 02-27-2003 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol...y not?

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Fastymz
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posted 02-27-2003 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:



Hey wait I just but one of those kits in my car.

But when I do a rebuild I'm going with the 270H.

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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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streetstang67
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posted 02-28-2003 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for streetstang67   Click Here to Email streetstang67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Like I said on another thread, 270S or 270H.
You can get away with stock springs for a while.


How long is "a while"? What are the consequences for waiting?

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