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Dubz
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posted 02-13-2003 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
allright, well to do some port and polish work on my stock heads would get me by, but if i wanna change my cam there is alot of stuff i would need to change with the heads and get something to convert my rockers to being adjustable...so allready i have about $250 towards new heads...and then i'd still have the stock valve size, so what's the best bet for iron heads??? what's the best manufacturer??

Thanks again crew

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Mpcoluv
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posted 02-13-2003 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really, your only choice (still in production)is the World products Roush 200 heads. There were some TFS Street Heat heads made in iron several years ago however....
By the time you buy springs, valves and convert the heads to screw in studs and guideplates, you have spent enough to buy the Roush heads.

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Fastymz
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posted 02-13-2003 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The roush 200 seem like the best bet to me too.

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Dubz
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posted 02-13-2003 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they will work with the stock sized intake, exhaust, and pushrods?

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D&S Induction Systems
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posted 02-13-2003 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D&S Induction Systems   Click Here to Email D&S Induction Systems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
The roush 200 seem like the best bet to me too.




Yeah, for the money there not a bad head. And thay shure are alot better than factoty castings, right off the bat.

"they will work with the stock sized intake, exhaust, and pushrods?"

Yes

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capri man
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posted 02-13-2003 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
d&s, what do you think of the ford gt40-p heads?

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Fastymz
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posted 02-13-2003 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike those GT40p are cheap enough,and seem like good flowing heads better then stock 351w heads.But I've read that headers are hard to find for them.Because they use a different plug angle.I can't find any one who makes headers for a 65 mustang with a 351w with Gt 40-P heads.

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D&S Induction Systems
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posted 02-13-2003 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D&S Induction Systems   Click Here to Email D&S Induction Systems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The GT40 P heads are better than a stock head. You can get them in a...

59.0cc 1.84 In & 1.46 Ex.
65.5cc 1.84 In & 1.54 Ex.

But the Roush 200 heads have greater air flow potential. Thay have...

64cc chambers and 2.02 In & 1.60 Ex I also like the chamber design on the Roush heads better too.

Don't get me wrong though. You will be better off with eather choice. The fork in the road here is. How is the engine going to be set up? If you plan on keeping you're engine closer to "stock", and maby a little bigger cam, I'd go with the GT-40 heads.

You dont need 2.02/1.60's with a stock or close to stock cam, intake etc... With some porting the Roush heads shouldn't have any problems feeding 302/351 to 7000 RPM's +.

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Dubz
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posted 02-14-2003 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'll want the 2.02 In & 1.60 Ex

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Dubz
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posted 02-14-2003 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do the terms bare and complete imply?

bare - no springs/rockers ect
complete - everything you need, just bolt them on
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capri man
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posted 02-14-2003 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ron have you tried MAC?
how much do the roush 200 heads cost, complete?
dubz, bare is just what it says, just the casting. complete is with the valves, retainers, springs and locks. no rockers.

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Dubz
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posted 02-14-2003 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, guess i'll have to wait that much longer, if i need to get rockers as well

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Rustang
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posted 02-14-2003 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang   Click Here to Email Rustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have the earlier heads with press in studs, for about $2.00 you can convert them to adjustable rockers! Between the rocker ball and nut, put a couple of washers in between so the nut doesn't bottom out on the stud's shoulder. Then buy an additional nut (5/16" fine thread, I think?) as a lock-nut on top of the existing rocker nut. I ran a .496 lift hydraulic cam (to 6500rpm) for years this way. (and 13.30 1/4 mile times). This was with the rail-style rockers.

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Fastymz
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posted 02-14-2003 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike I've seen the 200 heads complete for $839 @ Summit racing.
No I have looked into the Mac headers.I think I'd better off waiting to get the 200 heads anyways.

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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

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posted 02-14-2003 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rustang:
If you have the earlier heads with press in studs, for about $2.00 you can convert them to adjustable rockers! Between the rocker ball and nut, put a couple of washers in between so the nut doesn't bottom out on the stud's shoulder. Then buy an additional nut (5/16" fine thread, I think?) as a lock-nut on top of the existing rocker nut. I ran a .496 lift hydraulic cam (to 6500rpm) for years this way. (and 13.30 1/4 mile times). This was with the rail-style rockers.


That way you dont pull out the pressed in stud.


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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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