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jsracingbbf
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posted 02-02-2003 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at other drag cars I've been noticing the new popular place to mount the trans cooler is on the passenger side firewall, inside inner fender. It looks really slick mounted there I must say. I guess this keeps the AN line shorter. I was wondering if it would be better to run a fan on the cooler if it was mounted there?

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Fastymz
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posted 02-02-2003 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jerry I dont see how it gets air thur it there?
So I'd run a fan on it too.
I'm mounting mine where the battery use to be.Like SteveW did it will get more then enough air there.And it looks good there too.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 02-02-2003 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder about the air thing also Rob. I do know this, on a car like I am talking about there is open wheel wells, like mine. I don't even have a grill opening, so technically it would probably get more air on the inside fender. It's an extra $35.00 bucks for a cooler with a fan. grand total of $90.00 smackers. I'm no cheap skate but if you don't need it why buy it? The cooler with AN fittings from Perma cool is the one I'm looking at. cooler

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Jerry
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jsracingbbf
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posted 02-02-2003 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jsracingbbf:
I wonder about the air thing also Rob.


Sorry Ron typo fat fingers the n and b are real close

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kid vishus
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posted 02-02-2003 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a fan mounted on mine. But since I like to run multiple classes, and my convertor is pretty loose, I think it's a necassity, especially for low speed use. Once I turn the top bulbs on, I shut all my fans off, and leave just the water pump on. My grill is blocked off too, and I probably dont get much air thru there, except at 100+ mph. (PS, my cooler is mounted right in front of the radiator).

I would think if you get alot of air thru your's, it shouldn't need a fan. And if it turns out you do down the road, it can be added easily.

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Fastymz
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posted 02-02-2003 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jerry I've been called a lot worst.

It should get air there Jerry,but I'd space it out away from the mounting surface so the air can pass through it.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 02-02-2003 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Jerry I've been called a lot worst.

It should get air there Jerry,but I'd space it out away from the mounting surface so the air can pass through it.



Ron,
the ones I've seen use standoffs.
Good point Rob, I suppose I can always add a fan later.
Jerry

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Just Strokin
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posted 02-02-2003 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jerry, where is the cooler mounted now?

How about a late model mustang air box? Put the cooler inside it? Should protect it from stones. Just a thought.

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posted 02-02-2003 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Just Strokin:
Jerry, where is the cooler mounted now?

How about a late model mustang air box? Put the cooler inside it? Should protect it from stones. Just a thought.



Larry,
Don't have a cooler, the old one was DOA after the accident. ( guard rail rash ) I am unfamiliar with the late model airboxs but it sounds slick. Any links to look at one?
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clevelandstyle
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posted 02-02-2003 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cooler is mounted in the passenger fender well, but it's in front of the tire, right behind the bumper. It's on an angle and gets air from both sides. I don't have a fan. I can't tell you how well it works, yet. I just installed it with my new trans. I still need to take the trans pan off and install a temp gauge. Then I will be able to tell how well it works.

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capri man
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posted 02-02-2003 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have mine on the frame rail underneath the passenger seat. (that is if i had a passenger seat)

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-04-2003 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like to have two fans but I don't go round robin as much as KV does.
I still like it right in front of the radiator where it gets the greatest amount of cool air flow.

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Fstln69
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posted 02-04-2003 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fstln69   Click Here to Email Fstln69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then mounting the cooler in front of the radiator with a puller electric fan should be good enough?I'm hoping it will be with a good cfm puller fan (btw i won't admit to what car this is for in my stable as to make sure i get a response ..lol)

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Dad Vishus
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posted 02-04-2003 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fstln69:
Then mounting the cooler in front of the radiator with a puller electric fan should be good enough?I'm hoping it will be with a good cfm puller fan (btw i won't admit to what car this is for in my stable as to make sure i get a response ..lol)


That would require the fan to be behind the cooler and between it and the radiator. You may have that much space, but the fan on the front of the cooler works just as well, I would think. Usually all you have to do is reverse the wires to change the air direction, at least on the ones we have used.

We also stumbled on a cost effective alternative to braided lines. Hydraulic lines can be made up to order at most farm implement stores and are for high pressure oil use. For sure, don't use rubber hose and clamps, especially if this mystery vehicle sees any track time.

KV blew the line off a cooler once at about 900 feet. It made a real mess on the track and the car and could have easily been disasterous. It was a scary deal. We changed that right away.

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Just Strokin
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posted 02-04-2003 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DV,

You comment about not using hose clamps also goes for the braided teflon hose, spend the money and buy the right hose ends. Have seen a few racers blow the off their transmissions.

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Larry

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