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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-02-2003 02:33 PM
Can I get there with more traction only?------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2003 03:35 PM
Ron,I'll meet you at SacRaceway and loan you a pair of et streets. I think it'll do the trick. SteveW
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 18704 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 01-02-2003 03:39 PM
Positivly Scoop. You probably have more power on tap but just can't apply it. With some tires Steve can tune you up some and you should hit low 14's with no problem, if not a high 13. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-02-2003 03:58 PM
This spring I'd like to meet up with you at Sac,Steve.It would be great to you look over the car and maybe help with tuning. I'm working on getting some sticky tire by spring time. I was hoping for low to mid 14's at Fallon this spring. I can only stall the car up to about 2400-2700rpm. If I could leave at peak stall with traction.At Fallon do you think I could see 14.5 or faster? How about 100mph could I hit that too?
------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2003 04:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Fastymz: How about 100mph could I hit that too?
Ron, MPH takes horsepower, so we can't help that with traction. Et can be lowered with traction, but not MPH. As far as the spring meeting, sure just let me know when. Your curent converter is fine for your low rpm engine now, but if you bump up the power and as a result move your torque curve up too it may be too low. SteveW
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-02-2003 04:48 PM
Steve HP=MONEY. I'll have to be happy this summer with the 90's mph. I'll let you know about meeting this spring.I have to get some more things done to the 1st before I drive that far. Now if your going to be in Fallon again let me know.------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 31026 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-02-2003 05:13 PM
You need to race at a track with lower altitude. You already have a low 14 second car at sea level, right?------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Remember our sponsors, Mustangs Plus, NPD, Osborn Reproductions, and MyFordPerformance.com.
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-02-2003 05:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: You need to race at a track with lower altitude. You already have a low 14 second car at sea level, right?
Not sure about low 14's at sea level maybe 14.6 or so as it is. Steve I'd rather race at the altitude I live at.The lower number at sea level would be cool to post. But something fun about racing at the were you live. And seeing the improvements or setback at this altitude.I'm a 4000 plus feet kinda guy. ------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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stoker Gearhead Posts: 121 From: folsom,cal, Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 01-02-2003 08:56 PM
isnt stead 5000?when i ran there last year at hot august nites we were right in middle of heat wave.i believe it hit 99 degrees that day.was bummed at 8.07 et,really wanted to break in 7s.should be no prob this year,motor has 28 more inches and more comp.
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-02-2003 09:25 PM
Yes it close to 5000 feet Reno is at 4500 feet.Fallon is at 4200 or around that.It should run alot better this year,look forward to seeing you agian out there. ------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2003 09:39 PM
I hate it when I do that.... [This message has been edited by steve'66 (edited 01-02-2003).]
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2003 09:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by steve'66: Ron,Stead is 5000+'. You realize that a 30-40 h.p shot of N2O will make up for the elevation. Since you aren't into competitive bracket racing why not just bolt a 75 h.p. plate under that holley? I've got extra bottles if you want to try it. SteveW
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 31026 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 01-03-2003 07:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by Fastymz: Not sure about low 14's at sea level maybe 14.6 or so as it is. Steve I'd rather race at the altitude I live at.The lower number at sea level would be cool to post. But something fun about racing at the were you live. And seeing the improvements or setback at this altitude.I'm a 4000 plus feet kinda guy.
I was just saying don't sell yourself too short. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150 Remember our sponsors, Mustangs Plus, NPD, Osborn Reproductions, and MyFordPerformance.com.
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stang106 Gearhead Posts: 707 From: God's Country!... Port Alberni B.C. Canada Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-03-2003 12:10 PM
Ron, I don't see why you couldn't run low 14's. We have similar setups but I have a heavier car, cast iron intake and exaust, 3:23 gears, and managed a 13.7 at 104 mph in the 1/4 mile. do you still have an open diff? what kind of gears? I'm building a strip set of 4:11 gears with a spool for track only; consider it. I would think you have enough horsepower now. I'll be waiting for your results. Dave
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-03-2003 01:22 PM
Dave,My motor is getting old,I have a rpm intake a used holley 600cfm,shorty headers,3.40gears trac loc,8"wide BFG rear tires,very little traction. And I raced at about 4200-4400 feet.------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-03-2003 01:31 PM
SteveW to run a plate system do I need to change anything else on th ecar,or is it a plug and play item. SteveL I knen you were just trying to help.I dont mind having slow numbers it still a blast to race and drive. ------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-03-2003 01:39 PM
Ron,Do you have an electric fuel pump yet? You don't need much to run a 75 shot. You'll need to do a little wiring and add an arming toggle switch and throttle switch (I have one) that'll energize it at w.o.t. SteveW
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-03-2003 01:54 PM
No electric pump,just a carter street pump. The wiring I can handle,but can the motor handle the extra power?------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 5659 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-03-2003 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Fastymz: No electric pump,just a carter street pump. The wiring I can handle,but can the motor handle the extra power?
You won't get a 75 h.p. increase probably less than 50. The extra power is nothing to worry about, but the possibility of going lean is something to worry about. That's why we need an elec pump. SteveW
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68F100 Gearhead Posts: 1970 From: Fort Madison, Iowa USA - United We Stand Registered: Oct 99
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posted 01-03-2003 10:19 PM
SCOOP. I have faith in ya. I say you'll run a 13.98 this summer, at your home track. My prediction for the year I used to live in Snowflake,AZ altitude ~7000 ft. When I lived in Tucson, not sure what altitude, but it's tons lower. My truck didn't run worth a damn up north, but was pretty healthy where the air was. You might be surprised and happy just to try your car out in a lower altitude track.
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Fastymz Moderator Posts: 9095 From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240 Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-04-2003 03:39 AM
Thanks Joe,I'll get to Sac if I can this spring. I'd be happy with low 14's now 13.9 I'd be talking your guys ears off, wait I already do that. ------------------ SCOOP oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S 14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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