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Fastymz
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posted 01-02-2003 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I get there with more traction only?

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steve'66
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posted 01-02-2003 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron,

I'll meet you at SacRaceway and loan you a pair of et streets. I think it'll do the trick.

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-02-2003 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Positivly Scoop. You probably have more power on tap but just can't apply it. With some tires Steve can tune you up some and you should hit low 14's with no problem, if not a high 13.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-02-2003 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This spring I'd like to meet up with you at Sac,Steve.It would be great to you look over the car and maybe help with tuning.
I'm working on getting some sticky tire by spring time.
I was hoping for low to mid 14's at Fallon this spring.
I can only stall the car up to about 2400-2700rpm.
If I could leave at peak stall with traction.At Fallon do you think I could see 14.5 or faster?
How about 100mph could I hit that too?

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SCOOP
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steve'66
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posted 01-02-2003 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
How about 100mph could I hit that too?

Ron,

MPH takes horsepower, so we can't help that with traction. Et can be lowered with traction, but not MPH.

As far as the spring meeting, sure just let me know when. Your curent converter is fine for your low rpm engine now, but if you bump up the power and as a result move your torque curve up too it may be too low.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-02-2003 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve HP=MONEY.
I'll have to be happy this summer with the 90's mph.
I'll let you know about meeting this spring.I have to get some more things done to the 1st before I drive that far.
Now if your going to be in Fallon again let me know.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-02-2003 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to race at a track with lower altitude. You already have a low 14 second car at sea level, right?

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posted 01-02-2003 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You need to race at a track with lower altitude. You already have a low 14 second car at sea level, right?


Not sure about low 14's at sea level maybe 14.6 or so as it is.
Steve I'd rather race at the altitude I live at.The lower number at sea level would be cool to post.
But something fun about racing at the were you live.
And seeing the improvements or setback at this altitude.I'm a 4000 plus feet kinda guy.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
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65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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posted 01-02-2003 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoker   Click Here to Email stoker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
isnt stead 5000?when i ran there last year at hot august nites we were right in middle of heat wave.i believe it hit 99 degrees that day.was bummed at 8.07 et,really wanted to break in 7s.should be no prob this year,motor has 28 more inches and more comp.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-02-2003 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it close to 5000 feet Reno is at 4500 feet.Fallon is at 4200 or around that.It should run alot better this year,look forward to seeing you agian out there.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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posted 01-02-2003 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate it when I do that....

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steve'66
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posted 01-02-2003 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Ron,

Stead is 5000+'. You realize that a 30-40 h.p shot of N2O will make up for the elevation. Since you aren't into competitive bracket racing why not just bolt a 75 h.p. plate under that holley? I've got extra bottles if you want to try it.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-03-2003 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Not sure about low 14's at sea level maybe 14.6 or so as it is.
Steve I'd rather race at the altitude I live at.The lower number at sea level would be cool to post.
But something fun about racing at the were you live.
And seeing the improvements or setback at this altitude.I'm a 4000 plus feet kinda guy.

I was just saying don't sell yourself too short.

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stang106
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posted 01-03-2003 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron,
I don't see why you couldn't run low 14's. We have similar setups but I have a heavier car, cast iron intake and exaust, 3:23 gears, and managed a 13.7 at 104 mph in the 1/4 mile. do you still have an open diff? what kind of gears? I'm building a strip set of 4:11 gears with a spool for track only; consider it. I would think you have enough horsepower now. I'll be waiting for your results.
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Fastymz
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posted 01-03-2003 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave,My motor is getting old,I have a rpm intake a used holley 600cfm,shorty headers,3.40gears trac loc,8"wide BFG rear tires,very little traction.
And I raced at about 4200-4400 feet.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-03-2003 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SteveW to run a plate system do I need to change anything else on th ecar,or is it a plug and play item.

SteveL I knen you were just trying to help.I dont mind having slow numbers it still a blast to race and drive.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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posted 01-03-2003 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron,

Do you have an electric fuel pump yet?

You don't need much to run a 75 shot. You'll need to do a little wiring and add an arming toggle switch and throttle switch (I have one) that'll energize it at w.o.t.

SteveW

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Fastymz
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posted 01-03-2003 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No electric pump,just a carter street pump.
The wiring I can handle,but can the motor handle the extra power?

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

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posted 01-03-2003 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
No electric pump,just a carter street pump.
The wiring I can handle,but can the motor handle the extra power?


You won't get a 75 h.p. increase probably less than 50. The extra power is nothing to worry about, but the possibility of going lean is something to worry about. That's why we need an elec pump.

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68F100
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posted 01-03-2003 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68F100   Click Here to Email 68F100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCOOP. I have faith in ya. I say you'll run a 13.98 this summer, at your home track. My prediction for the year

I used to live in Snowflake,AZ altitude ~7000 ft. When I lived in Tucson, not sure what altitude, but it's tons lower. My truck didn't run worth a damn up north, but was pretty healthy where the air was. You might be surprised and happy just to try your car out in a lower altitude track.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-04-2003 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Joe,I'll get to Sac if I can this spring.
I'd be happy with low 14's now 13.9 I'd be talking your guys ears off,
wait I already do that.

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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs

2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH

65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede.

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html

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