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Topic: opinion about ON/OFF switch
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 9095
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-28-2002 04:58 PM
   
I want to move my battery to the trunk this winter.But in order to race it I need to have an ON/OFF or kill switch on the outside.
But I dont think it looks right on a 14.9second car.My car is on the street 95% of the time.
Any idea's or opinions on this.SCOOP ------------------
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1115
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 12-28-2002 05:15 PM
SCOOP:
I've seen some folks install their ON/OFF switch behind their license plate. When they're at the track, they remove their license plate to expose the switch.......
Just an idea! Ryan 
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Fastymz
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posted 12-28-2002 05:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:
SCOOP:
I've seen some folks install their ON/OFF switch behind their license plate. When they're at the track, they remove their license plate to expose the switch.......
Just an idea! Ryan
Thanks Ryan,not a bad idea at all. Dose anyone know what the rules are about where and how the switch has to be mounted. SCOOP ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
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Just Strokin
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From: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-28-2002 05:30 PM
Not sure how current theweb page of the NHRA rules are, but it should give you an idea.......http://www.jr333.com/nhrarules.htm
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Fastymz
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posted 12-28-2002 05:50 PM
Thanks that helped with the rules. SCOOP ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
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Fastymz
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posted 12-28-2002 06:08 PM
Do you guys think it would dumb to have the switch in the open on my car?------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-28-2002 06:53 PM
Try and find the one on MM?  ------------------
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ekbeanctr
Gearhead Posts: 296
From: Middlebury, IN USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 12-28-2002 07:01 PM
Scoop,
I think the on/off switch on the rear of the car would look great, it would make people think the car must be seriously fast especially with the SCOOP in the front. They won't know it's a 14.9 car and that way you can still race it when you want. Or hide it under the license plate like Ryan suggested. Let us know where you end up putting it. I just got a battery kit for Christmas so I have to figure out where to put the switch also. (I have to powder coat it Red 1st)  I am also thinking about installing the exterior posts to be able to charge the car from outside  ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 12-28-2002 07:05 PM
Ennie I'll let you know,I'll get to it this winter sometime.Alex any hints on where you put yours?
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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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ciscokid
Journeyman Posts: 45
From: Cleveland, TN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 12-28-2002 07:08 PM
You can implement an on/off switch with a "pull-on/push-off" set-up. Moroso (for one) has a kit for adapting the usual battery disconnect switch to push/pull operation. If you did this, you could have a small hole in the rear panel, and only attach the thread-on push/pull rod when you are at the track. On the street, just put a small rubber plug in the hole. Presto-chango, street to track.Alex, I hope the safety team can find the switch if they need to.....
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 12-28-2002 07:59 PM
Yeah, I have a BIG "push off" sign on the
bumper. Go to Flaming RIver's website also Scoop.
That's the one I use. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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68F100
Gearhead Posts: 1970
From: Fort Madison, Iowa USA - United We Stand
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 12-28-2002 08:24 PM
Is the kill switch required only if your battery is relocated? Or is it required just to race at all?
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steve'66
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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
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posted 12-28-2002 08:29 PM
Like these?http://www.flamingriver.com/enter.htm
The kill switch is only required if you relocate the battery.
SteveW
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 12-28-2002 08:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 68F100:
Is the kill switch required only if your battery is relocated? Or is it required just to race at all?
Joe,
On my car only if I race,and the battery is relocated. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Fastymz
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posted 12-28-2002 08:37 PM
Do you guys wire it so it kills the alt,too?
Or just the battery?
Like the pull,push idea,where I could remove the level and cover the hole.So at the cruise nights most people wouldn't notice it.
Now if my car ran 12's or better I'd have alarge ON/OFF on there all the time. SCOOP ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
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capri man
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posted 12-28-2002 09:12 PM
get the push pull type. then wire it backwards. then your little sticker that you put beside it can say.
PUSH ON------JERK OFF!!
sorry couldnt stand it any longer. lol------------------
mike r
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everything else is just a game.
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Fastymz
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posted 12-28-2002 09:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
get the push pull type. then wire it backwards. then your little sticker that you put beside it can say.
PUSH ON------JERK OFF!!
sorry couldnt stand it any longer. lol
LOL
Thanks for help Mike 
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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
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capri man
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posted 12-28-2002 09:24 PM
anytime buddy!!------------------
mike r
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-28-2002 09:29 PM
FR1003-2------------------
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steve'66
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posted 12-28-2002 09:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Do you guys wire it so it kills the alt,too?
Or just the battery?
SCOOP
Ron, The switch has to kill the engine, so yes you have to run the alt. wire to the switch too. For NHRA/IHRA anyway, SteveW
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capri man
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posted 12-28-2002 09:53 PM
yup, and it has to be connected to the battery side of the switch or the alt will keep the car running.------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
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n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 12-28-2002 10:49 PM
Hmmm...My car has had the battery relocated to the trunk for years now. I've never even been asked about a on/off switch! You definitely won't find the one on my car, because it doesn't exist! I think it's kind of silly to require one on a 14 second car. Are you SURE it's a requirement? Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
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clevelandstyle
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posted 12-28-2002 11:27 PM
It is a general rule for ANY car wiht the bettery relocated.------------------
Ben
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-28-2002 11:38 PM
When you race sanctioned, organized racing, full tech and saftey inspections by trained, certified tech people are mandatory.
A relocated battery requires a switch as per NHRA and IHRA rules. Rule enforcement is only as good as those who do the inspecting.
Outlaw and back woods tracks are notoriuos for lax tech and the consequenses are almost always near fatal. Some of the worst tech inspections I have ever seen have been at the few NMRA and FWC events I have been to.  ------------------
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bfxcomet
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Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-29-2002 01:27 AM
I put the on/off switch through my license plate, and you can't see it unless your looking for it. I didn't want a on/off switch either, but safety are important.
My car only ran 14.99 last year.
Roger------------------
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jsracingbbf
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posted 12-29-2002 11:15 AM
quote:
Originally posted by n2oMike:
Hmmm...My car has had the battery relocated to the trunk for years now. I've never even been asked about a on/off switch! You definitely won't find the one on my car, because it doesn't exist! I think it's kind of silly to require one on a 14 second car. Are you SURE it's a requirement? Good Luck!
Mike, you may want to add one to your car, even if the tracks you run at don't inspect for it. Reason is if you are in a wreck and can't get out, a safety team or anybody will AUTOMATIClly look for this switch at the rear of the car. It could keep raw fuel from feeding a fire, etc.. I have to have a manual cable fuel shut off located just inside the driver compartment because I run a belt drive fuel pump. Seriously consider putting this in. 
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Jerry
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag
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n2oMike
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posted 12-29-2002 05:34 PM
You've got a point...I just hate to have my car look like some sort of drag car. I'm a sleeper kind of guy. I'll probably add one... Hmmm, install one where the track monkeys will clearly be able to see it, or hide it? MM said his was hard to find. I think to really do much good, it would have to be out in the open... I'll have to think about it. I don't really like the idea of having two electric fuel pumps gushing fuel everywhere in the event of a crash. Thanks! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
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Fastymz
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posted 12-29-2002 05:46 PM
Mike I think behind the lic, plate might be the best place to hide it.
I think mine will just end up and the tail light panel somewere.There gose my sleeper look.
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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-29-2002 06:53 PM
It's not THAT hard to find..... unless you're Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles
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Fastymz
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posted 12-29-2002 06:55 PM
Alex do you have good picture of your rear end.
So we can see were you put it. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-29-2002 07:05 PM
Sure Scoop  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 12-29-2002 07:07 PM
ROTFLMAO
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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
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stang106
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posted 12-29-2002 07:24 PM
It does seem odd to me that cars with the battery in front DON'T need a on/off switch. What's different?
Dave
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-29-2002 08:43 PM
OK Scoop, here ya go again.......
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Alex Denysenko
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Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 12-29-2002 09:58 PM
Nice rear,
Your right you can hardle see it there.------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Rory McNeil
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posted 12-30-2002 12:27 AM
Scoop, you could also install the switch inside a spare taillight unit, or reverse lite lens. That way if you ever wanted to go back to a stock appearance, you wouldn`t need to fill any extra holes. ------------------
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steve'66
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posted 12-30-2002 12:35 AM
Ron,Did you see the switch on Melissa's
'66? Just a 20something dollar Summit deal in the rear taillight panel. The panel was cherry too when we decided to drill it and add the switch. It looks pretty good if I say so myself. The car isn't a "sleeper", but then again neither is yours with that big scoop. SteveW
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fastford34
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Registered: May 2002
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posted 12-30-2002 12:54 PM
Scoop,there`s about 8 or 9 cars in my area that run the switch out the back and have that orange tag on the handle. the 1 guy i talked to said it`s an intimidation factor. i prefer it to be unnoticable,that sleeper set up is the way to go in my opinion. just my .02
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Fastymz
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posted 12-30-2002 03:20 PM
Rory to late for me to worry about extra holes in my car. SteveW the switch on the 66 looked great.Do you really think people notice my scoop. Keith,At this point for my car sleeper is not an option.
I think I'm going to just put the switch on the light panel.Right beside the little flag that says remove before flight. ------------------
SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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steve'66
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posted 12-30-2002 03:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Right beside the little flag that says remove before flight.
I gotta get me one of them flags, they look cool. SteveW
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