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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 12-10-2002 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the worse you've been beat at a street light Grand Prix?

I remember the time I learned about big block Mopars. I was driving to Portland Speed and I was feeling cocky since I was on a pretty good streak winning against most that I ran and being close to the ones I lost. Then I come up to a light and a ratty black '68 Coronet R/T pulled up to me. The light changed, and we both took off. He walked away. We come to another light and he walks away again. We come to a third light and he's had enough of me. He revs it up hard, dumps the clutch and leaves me in the dust as he rooster tails tire smoke running away.

A couple minutes later I catch up to him at Portland Speed. He showed me his new 426 wedge with dual carbs and I didn't feel so bad. Almost.

What I think was cool is that a few years ago I was managing an office and I needed to get the locks changed so I hire a locksmith and he ends up showing up. 20 years later he remembered me instantly. "Hey, didn't you used to have a white Mustang with blue stripes?" We had a good time talking about hot rods and got a kick out of the fact that we still both had the cars from that night. He's building a Hemi for it now, so I'm not looking for a rematch.

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-10-2002 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my most devastating defeats with MM was against some north side "rich boys" that had a high dollar 68 Chevelle.
We were all at one of our big spots circa 1975 and I had flat towed MM down for a $500 match up with a GTS Dart. I was in the mid 12's and thought that I was pretty hot sh*t. With a great w/l record I was very cocky. I knew the Dart well as they bought most of their parts at GSD. It was a 383 with inline quads and a tork flite. We raced heads up and I trounced him. I killed him at least two cars right off the line. Most guys with automatics had not learned about stall speeds as of yet. It was still a secret and black art.
While relishing in our victory some guys showed up towing a silver 68 Chevelle that none of us had ever seen before. We all assumed that it was a big block with a 4 speed. The guys were not very "street smart", but the car was very well prepared. Ladder bars, Hurst supershifter, M&H slicks that fit without cutting the wheel wells, nice wheels, etc.
They didn't say much as the rest of the crowd besieged them offering up races with this car or that car. Finally they said they came to race some guy named "Moneymaker".
After some civil conversation we began to talk up a race. I should have looked the car over closely then, but that little buddy of mine that would often show up called EGO intervened.
Within 15 minutes we had a $1000 bet and started to get the money up. They were giving me a two car length spot and the pot was $2000. $500 of it was my own money.
I figured this was a cake walk and we would send these guys packing back to the north side.
When they fired this Chevelle up it sounded great. I mean real good! Crisp, and deep, like a BIG inch motor. We moved up the two car lengths as we lined up and got ready. The flag man was out in front and pointed us each out. I jump cheated and pulled an extra car length ahead. MM left well and I though, wow this is easy. The Chevelle launched like a superstock and came up on me like a freight train. When I hit third gear he was already passing me. He beat me by at least 5-6 car lengths. Talk about embarrased.
They were prety gracious considering the **** we gave them. After we paid up, they showed me under the hood. It had a slick big block alright with a cross ram and two 660 Holleys. Pretty exotic stuff for the times.
That Sunday we all were at Union Grove for some reason and the Chevelle was there running in B/MP. It was going mid 11's at ove 120 MPH. I don't know if I could have beaten that car with a ten car spot. I found out from them that it was a full boogie Ronnie Kaplan Engineering 440 inch, 14 to 1 deal. That was the last time I ever walked into a street race blind.

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64FalconF-16
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From: Republic Of Texas!! Temporarily living in KY
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posted 12-10-2002 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 64FalconF-16   Click Here to Email 64FalconF-16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The worst I was ever toasted was also a Big Block Mopar.

I had my 69 442 with a 455 in it. My buddy abd I were 16 or 17. I was looking for races on SW military drive in San Antonio. I see this group of guys parked and decide to investigate. Found a taker and haggled a $20 race. This guy goes to his car. A nice looking 71 Cuda. He gets in the car turns the key and all we hear is "blop.. blop" from his open dumps.

I look at my buddy and he says. Uh Oh!!

We line em up at the light. Light turns green. And all I hear is his motor thru 1 st gear he hits second and is G..O..N..E...

I paid up and made a friend I still have to this day. He was running a Modified 440 6pack w/ a 4 speed dana 60/410 gears.

Man, if I only had a time machine.... Those were the days. Drinking age 18.. Buying when I was 16. There was not a open container law. Fast cars, Fast women.. We lived with wreckless abandon. Young and dumb and full of *** and lord knows we wanted some.

Rick

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Fastymz
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posted 12-10-2002 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two summer ago during Hot August Nights.I was at a local street racers hang out.There was this big guy with yellow hair.
He had an 85 Mustang,big cowl hood big *** wing on the back.The car sounded just ok,and the inside had nothing put one glass seat.Lots wires all aorund a real sloppy looking street racer.He's a big mouth guy,so i say ok lets go.I know my cars not fast but my pops as always told me you never what's going to happen.
So we line up I hear him start to rev up his car.It's starting to laod up.We get the go light we take off even.They at about 3000 rpm in 1st I hear a loud whine coming from his car he waves to me and he is GONE.
I mean like I could have been standing still.
I beat me by at least half track at least.He was already pulled over and getting out of his before I got to the end.I get we talk for alittle while he takes off his hood and shows me his twin turbo 302.WOW that car was really built,I have since joked with him.He built the car to look low tech,simple street racer stuff.The guy runs 11's at fallon.
I have lost way to many races to tell you then all.But I have won a few I shouldn't have and they make up for the others.
Some day if I even get a real motor,there will be some jaw droppin going on here in Reno.

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lawless
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posted 12-10-2002 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lawless   Click Here to Email lawless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1987 Del Rio Texas (I was 19 and in the Air Force)

sitting in Whataburger after having a few cocktails in Ciudad Acuna waiting for all of the raggedy street racers to show up. I spent most of my time smoking mid 70's - early 80's craparos/fireturds with my 68 j-code coupe (stock bottom end, Comp 268H cam, stock j-code heads w/thermactor bumps removed, 625 carter afb on a weiand hi-rise dual plane, Hedman Headers, 2 1/2" duals, stock rear springs w/ air shocks, lakewood slappers,stock C4 w/shift kit and 3.40 rear) It was a nice little street racer though not overly quick. A guy comes pulling up with a ratty looking 75 fireturd with what looked to be a 350, stock exhaust manifolds and glasspacks (the official muffler of texas )

We go out of town on Ave F and line up for $50 bucks. At the start I get about a car and a half ahead of him then all I hear is wailing poncho big block as he flies by me by the time I'm shifting to third. Turns out he had a SD 455 with a M-22 4-speed and 4.11's ooooooooopppps.....

chris

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n2oMike
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posted 12-10-2002 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, not really a 'fess-up' but a tough story...

A year or so ago a group of us were heading to National Trail Raceway in Columbus, Ohio for a Friday Test and Tune session...

On the way, we came down a bridge, and there was a big of patch of oil laid down, and it had just started to rain. I was towing the mustang on the dolly with my 4cyl ranger and started to slide. I bumped into the truck in front of me, but not that bad.... Then all of a sudden I get slammed from behind by my buddy's 3/4 ton truck hauling his chevelle on a trailer. Yep, the mustang was just on a dolly and took the hit.

The taillight panel, bumper, gas cap, trunk floor, frame rail, etc. all got crunched.

The truck got hit up front, the mustang took it in the a$$.

Both were still drivable, so we towed in the rain the rest of the way to the drag strip, only to find a special 'import night' had been unknowingly scheduled! We were still able to run, but were only able to get 2-3 runs during the whole session. There was rice everywhere... but even with the limited number of runs, the mustang was still able to rip off a 10.65

After returning home (near the end of the summer), I decided to do a little testing with the nitrous system, and broke a piston. I yanked the pan and that one head to replace it... only to have another one come apart five minutes after the engine was fired back up. (I guess a piston on the other bank got hurt as well.) This time there was antifreeze in the oil pan.

So, in the time span of one week, the back of the car got crashed and the engine got killed.

I fixed the truck this spring. The car has been to the frame shop of a buddy who rebuilds totals, and the new engine is starting to take shape. It's hard to say how pretty it will be when it hits the road next season, but hopefully it will be at least as fast as it was before, and I'll get a little seat time.

Sometimes it takes a little adversity to make us grow.

Good Luck!

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69stanger
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posted 12-10-2002 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69stanger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got you all beat I lost to a 98 Bonneville.

I got my first car my senior year of high school, a white 1970 mustang coupe with a 351W. Now this coupe was stock as hell I mean it had nothing done to it, but that didnt matter to me I thought it was the fastest car in the world. When I took it to school all the kids crowded around me and aksed me questions about it and soon everyone was saying I had the fastest car in school.

The problem here was that no one knew anything about cars including myself, I bullsh*tted everyone, telling people I had 351 horsepower because I confused the displacement with horsepower and everyone bought it hook line and sinker.

Well one faithful day I was hauling *** out of the parking lot and peeled out of there. My good friend Robert in his pontiac bonnevile I believe it was a 98 followed me to the traffic light.

He said "damn your car was hauling *** ....and that its sweet" I was eating up everything he was saying, it was all feeding my already huge ego. Then he said "when the lights go green lets go for it." I was like "sure" fully expecting to destroy him.................The light turned green and I got my *** handed to me by a mommy car

I couldnt beleive it and neither could he, he was really good about and didnt tell anyone about beating me, but after that day I learned to keep my mouth closed and that their is always someone faster than you (espically in my case, my car was so stock and un-tuned that I had not even used carb-cleaner to clean out my dirty carb).

Since that eventful day I have not street raced since, not becaue of the loss but becasue I got a speeding ticket a few days after that. 200 bucks for the ticket and traffic school made me poor as hell.

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lawless
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posted 12-10-2002 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lawless   Click Here to Email lawless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 69stanger:
The problem here was that no one knew anything about cars including myself, I bullsh*tted everyone, telling people I had 351 horsepower because I confused the displacement with horsepower and everyone bought it hook line and sinker.



Picture all the baggy drawers ricers sniffing around the 70 stang....

"Wow 351 horsepower??? Daaaaaahhmmmmm that's like three civics!!!!!"

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johnmustang
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posted 12-11-2002 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had a 68 fastback 302 mild build , 4 spd , 3:55`s. came up against a 68 camaro Z/28 302 all stock. Ran on kingsway all the way from victoria drive to boundry road. All the lights between the 2 streets approx 6 to 8 lights , lost on all of them. Ran into the guy about 2 months later at a car show , he was selling the camaro , I bought it , kept it for 3 years. did not lose many races at all , it was a very fast car. Sold it to another mustang guy ( go figure ), still had my 68 fastback , sold it as well 1 week later , bought a 69 mach 1 , 351 , also a mild build. Raced my old camaro , kicked the sh!t out of it . Have never owned another camaro since then or any other chebbie product , wish I still had the 68 fastback and the 69 mach 1. I strayed from the path for awhile , but , " MUSTANGS FOREVER - MUSTANGS RULE "

JOHN

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steve'66
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posted 12-11-2002 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,

The year was 1973 and we lived in Reno. My older Bro was running a SS/A '68 'cuda on the east coast, and I just got married at 19 years old. We, Barb and I wanted to build a car, so we picked a '66 'cuda out of the junk yard and went to work. My brother supplied most of the goodies including a 3500 stall converter and a custom valve body for the 727 TF tranny that we swapped in. We wanted a 340, but ended up with a 360 out of a Dodge Truck for $150. After cleaning it up and new ring and bearings it wasn't the best but it was good enough for us. A new intake and valve job set us back about 3 weeks of grocery money, but hey it was worth it. Then we scored on a 8 3/4" rear end and installed 3.91 gears with "posi", and a pair of cheater slicks. The street race scene back then was on Edison Way. The 1/4 mile was even painted on the street and it was well lit. We had fender well headers and the car was painted nicely in black with Crager SS rims. The rear tires were "cheater slicks" (not nearly as good as today's et streets)
We had beaten everything that would show up at the time. The car was a sleeper, unless we fired that motor up, it idled at 1100 rpm and sounded mean as hell with the lunati cam. Then my "buddy" set us up with a race against a shoe box Nova. It was a hundred bucks and we were pretty cocky! When we arrived at Edison Way we uncorked the fenderwell headers and waited. The Nova showed up on a trailer with real slicks! After some sh-t talk we lined up and he got me by a car off the line and held that car length through the 1/4. Remember that was 1973 and or rent was $155 and we made less than $7 per hour between the two of us. It was devistating, then the next day I noticed the 727 TF tranny was cracked and I parted out the car. Our next step was to buy a house and a new '76 TA, but that's a different story.

SteveW

p.s. I'm building a Mopar for Ma and I, hope you all understand.

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two89w
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posted 12-11-2002 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for two89w   Click Here to Email two89w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mine is short and not so sweet......about a month ago a fellow member of the mustang club in his 73 conv, 351c stroked to 383,c4,2.79 diff(shocking looking car)absolutley left me standing at a set of lights(twice)second time i broke an engine mount and ****ed my radiator.....but, a rolling start was a very different story...

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cobravenom71
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posted 12-11-2002 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71   Click Here to Email cobravenom71     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This one is the worst, but I'll tell it anyway.
1985, The Woodlands Tx, wife and I driving our brand-new IROC-Z, "LG-4" 165 horsepower 305 4-bbl, 5-speed.(this was the only way to get the 5-speed.The 'better' TPI engine was only availible with automatic).
At a traffic light a black 4-door Dodge Omni drives up next to us, and it is literally filled up with fat chicks! 4 big, fat girls tooling around in an Omni. Looked like an aquarium where the fish had grown way too large for the bowl!
Anyway, Omni-girl is revving up her little 4-banger, lookin' for a race.
The wife was annoyed, so she said "Show what we got, baby!", and then she turned off the 'Billy Idol-Rebel Yell' tape that was playing, and we eyeballed the traffic light, waiting for the signal to turn green so we could teach the behemoths the difference between high-performance driveterains vs. high performance decals.
On the green, I jumped on it , and the 'Z' jumped with some authority, and we were at least 2-3 car-lengths ahead when all of the sudden this tiny little black blubber-mobile shot past us like we were standing still!
I could just barely make out the letters 'GLHS' on the car, and I soon found out they stood for 'Goes Like Hell Shelby.'
The very day that the warranty expired on the IROC, I took it to a speed-shop in Houston, and had them start on the '383' stroker conversion that was real popular at the time.
The stroker motor was awesome, that car really came to life after that!
Started besting a lot of cars at the traffic-light wars after that, but I never saw the fat-mobile again. Thankfully.

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ROTFLMAO !!!!!! Four Fat Chicks LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-11-2002 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cobravenom71:
This one is the worst, but I'll tell it anyway.
1985, The Woodlands Tx, wife and I driving our brand-new IROC-Z, "LG-4" 165 horsepower 305 4-bbl, 5-speed.(this was the only way to get the 5-speed.The 'better' TPI engine was only availible with automatic).
At a traffic light a black 4-door Dodge Omni drives up next to us, and it is literally filled up with fat chicks! 4 big, fat girls tooling around in an Omni. Looked like an aquarium where the fish had grown way too large for the bowl!
Anyway, Omni-girl is revving up her little 4-banger, lookin' for a race.
The wife was annoyed, so she said "Show what we got, baby!", and then she turned off the 'Billy Idol-Rebel Yell' tape that was playing, and we eyeballed the traffic light, waiting for the signal to turn green so we could teach the behemoths the difference between high-performance driveterains vs. high performance decals.
On the green, I jumped on it , and the 'Z' jumped with some authority, and we were at least 2-3 car-lengths ahead when all of the sudden this tiny little black blubber-mobile shot past us like we were standing still!
I could just barely make out the letters 'GLHS' on the car, and I soon found out they stood for 'Goes Like Hell Shelby.'
The very day that the warranty expired on the IROC, I took it to a speed-shop in Houston, and had them start on the '383' stroker conversion that was real popular at the time.
The stroker motor was awesome, that car really came to life after that!
Started besting a lot of cars at the traffic-light wars after that, but I never saw the fat-mobile again. Thankfully.



LROTFLMFAO!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL


Four fat chicks in a fish bowl! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
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posted 12-11-2002 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back when I was a punk college kid using the mustang as my everyday driver, (no nitrous yet) I was beating about everyone I raced... including some big block nitrous cars. Word gets around to this 'older' guy who has a pretty good job at a Chevy dealership... that just so happened to own a black 69 Camaro with a big block, nitrous, and then the newest, hottest street race accessory... M&H Racemaster DOT drag tires!

He shows up at the 'spot' in this beastly ride looking for a little red mustang! Of course, I see him there and go up to talk, knowing full well that I'm not racing this guy for any money! We talk about things, and he seems to be a fairly nice and knowledgable guy. (most guys I raced with were. Not toooo much ego and trash talk, except for a few)

Anyway, His car was 'loaded for bear', and mine was just a college commuter, but we were both out, and it wasn't that crowded out, so we decided to play around a little. Due to the tire issue, I talked him into running from a roll, and he wouldn't use his nitrous. His slight ego got the best of him and he said he would take off as soon as he saw me 'gun it'....

Fast Forward to the racing... We get lined up and get moving (with me setting the pace speed) and I nail the throttle! He jumps into his, but I was able to barely stay out in front of him as I powershifted through all the gears! I won! We went back to talk, and he wanted to go again, but this time with HIM setting the starting speed. I agreed, and we did it again! This time we were pretty much dead even. After returning, he reminded me how generous he had been, and wanted to race one more time... either from a roll with nitrous, or from a dead stop without it... I was interested in nitrous at the time, and wanted to see what kind of a difference it would make, so I chose to run from a roll with his bottle on to get a good reference. (nitrous was fairly new at this time) This time when we started, I took off and got a decent jump, but when he hit that nitrous button he was GONE! It wasn't too long after, that I had my own set of M&H Racemasters and nitrous system!

I saw his car at a car show later with a 10 second time slip, and was impressed.

My car was clearly outclassed at that race, but we had tons of fun, I got some experience with nitrous, and it didn't cost me anything except for a little gas money.

Good Luck!

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66 mustang real street
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kid vishus
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posted 12-11-2002 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once I got a "good" motor in my 70 (an 11-1 4v headed solid cammed cleveland), I started beating everything that would race me. Being from a fairly small community, it didnt take too long before word spread and no one wanted run me (at that time there wasnt much that was very fast on the street anymore). However, I was buddies with a guy that had a '72 Z28, it had an old Gail Banks built tunnelramed 454 out of a boat in it, a 4 speed, and a 3.73 gear. I knew I was outmatched, but we decided to run them "for somethting to do" (no one would race either one of us). I was running mid 12's at the track at the time using slicks (have since learned it should have been ALOT faster), but we were both on street tires. However my buddy was running some soft sidewall dirt track tires (I had some old stiff bias plies on).

We went from a dead stop, and by the middle of my second gear he already had me by a car length and was pulling away. I lost by around 4 and a half car lengths. Thankfully, we just ran for fun and I didnt lose any cash. We both spun pretty badly, and he spun a bit less than I did, (I had an auto with a 4200 rpm convertor, and his stick let him feather the throttle better). I think even for a "roll and go" I would have lost by around the same margin. It was bad, but I thought I held my own fairly well since I was "out cubed" by 110 inches. With what I have since learned was wrong with my combo, I am positive I could take him now if he still owned that car (which I know for a fact he doesnt).

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posted 12-11-2002 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71   Click Here to Email cobravenom71     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
$-Maker, Thanx for the appreciative comments about the Omni story, but I'm a little 'ignorant' about all these acronyms. What the hell does NDJFHRIUTIOYKGJ (or whatever that was) mean, anyway? Just curious.

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posted 12-11-2002 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work   Click Here to Email JCQuinn@work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My story probably isn't the worst loss I ever had. But it's one of the few I remember clearly. I have raced in Stock and Comp eliminator for quite a few years and the losses and wins are mostly lost in the crowd of runs down the track.

This story happened back in the late 50's. I was driving a stock 54 Mercury 2 door hardtop with a four barrel v8. I can't remember the displacement, the 54
ford engine (the first overhead valve v8 in a Ford) was 239 inches and the Mercury version was slightly larger. At that time in Eastern Nebraska there were no drag strips so all racing was done on the street. Since there were no rules, you just ran whoever you weren't afraid to run with no real thought about engine size, car weight or whatever. I used to run whoever would run me I didn't particularly care whether I won or lost, I just wanted to race.

This particular race was the first time we had a legal sanctioned race. The NHRA Safety Safari came to Lincoln and got permission to have a real drag race at the local Air Force base. I was pretty excited because it would be a chance to race against other cars that were fairly matched with mine and would let me know if my car ran good or not. I didn't have a rule book, I don't know if they even existed, so I just took the car to the track, entered and let them tell me what class I would race in.

Truthfully I don't remember how many cars were in the class, I only remember the run I lost on. It was against a 52 or 53 Olds that belonged to a guy I knew from high school. He just waxed my a$$. I found out later that he had a 57 Olds engine in the car. My first experience with legal racing and my first experience with people who cheat in stock eliminator all at the same time.

John

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The worst for me was just last week!!
I was at a light in Seymour CT on Sunday morning at 10:03am in the left lane,first at the light when an old guy in a new Buick pulled up on the right,but It looked like he was going to turn? But when the light changed
he dropped the hammer! It was to late he had the jump on me! By the time My F-150 stopped spinning he was a nose ahead of me and the lane was ending for him. So did the nice thing and backed out and let him go!
My 15 year old Daughter couldn't believe it.
So from now on when anyone pulls up next to me I'm gassin it!

P.S. Come to find the car was one of these new 300+ HP Buicks! So in retorospect the little 4.6 in a 4X4 did pretty good! I did stay with it even with a slow start!!

It was kind of cool seeing a 70+ guy still had some balls left! I hope to be doing the same thing when I'm his age! Just not in a Buick!!!!!!!!!

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I was talking to a old friend about this thread. he reminded me of a whoopin I took one night.

In High School my 442 with a transplanted 455 was pretty tough to beat as far as high School cars were conserned. In 1981...

There was this pocket protector nerd at school who was pretty handy with wrenches. He had restored a 64 Valiant with a 225 slant 6 and three speed that was a pretty cherry refrig white car.

One day at lunch I harrassed him a little bit about his car. (Mistake) He told me he would race me and my 442 and beat me. I never gave it another thought. I thought he was kidding.

That Friday night he came looking for me at our normal hangout. He had $50 and his Dad (another nerd) with him. I figured an easy 50 bucks... right....?

We lined up. I took off and had him by two cars at least and was pulling away. Next thing I know he is next to me near the finish and passing me at the finish. He won.!!!! It was like slow motion watching him pass me. My buddy was next to me and says he will never forget the look on my face as I watched this guy pass my car. I was so embarrassed. My buds were amused to say the least. It took me a long while to live that one down.

Turns out this guys Dad was an engineer for NASA in Houston. They put a 4brl carb and nitrous on this car. He had cheater slicks on a stock wheels. Man talk about a sleeper.

He never raced again. Which sucked. I was his only race and his only win.

Rick

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Wow, you got beat by a 225 Slant 6 with your 455? That must have been REALLY and I mean REALLLLY depressing. Slicks + 4BBL carb + nitrous?? Even still, was he pushing 200shots?

That's an impressing story. I'm surprised you dug it out of your memory closet.

Nice one!!

Erik

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I was 18 and just bought my '67. I thought it was bad-*** with it's '71 302, 2barrel and 2.69 gears. It was a Friday night and I spied a late 70's trans am in the distance. I got on his butt, he just kinda putted along for a few seconds and then he jumped on it. I couldn't believe it! That T/A's back-end dropped down, pipes started screaming and he proceeded to dust me like I was standing still. I gained respect real fast of what a fast car was really like, and respect for 400 pontiacs!

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quote:
Originally posted by rockafellz:
Wow, you got beat by a 225 Slant 6 with your 455? That must have been REALLY and I mean REALLLLY depressing. Slicks + 4BBL carb + nitrous?? Even still, was he pushing 200shots?

That's an impressing story. I'm surprised you dug it out of your memory closet.

Nice one!!

Erik


More of a depressing story. I can make no excuses. He beat me fair and square. Not by much but a win is a win. That car had a header and no telling what else done to it.

I was giving him HE!! that day because I saw him getting a second gear scratch on the way to school.

He may have had gears too for all I know. Still, I had double the Cubic inches he had.

Rick

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quote:
Originally posted by cobravenom71:
$-Maker, Thanx for the appreciative comments about the Omni story, but I'm a little 'ignorant' about all these acronyms. What the hell does NDJFHRIUTIOYKGJ (or whatever that was) mean, anyway? Just curious.


LROTFLMFAO= Laughing, rolling on the floor, laughing my f*cking a$$ off.
Still laughing. Fat broads are bad enough, but to get beat by one in an Omni
Oh My God !

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quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
OK,

The street race scene back then was on Edison Way. The 1/4 mile was even painted on the street and it was well lit. SteveW

p.s. I'm building a Mopar for Ma and I, hope you all understand.


I know all about Edison way that street is still talked about today.
Now Steve they have about 5 different spots to race at.They change them all the time,and they change the days of the week they race too.
Edison is real beat up now I think the city leaves it that way.
The areas expect for aren't maked or as well light as Edison was.
One of the places they race has three cross streets so you have to keep your eyes open for cars.
I have never and will never race there.
Did you every see a line green super bird,or a two tone green 70 challenger.
Or how about a blown orange 68 crapmero.

These storys are just to cool,keep it up guys.
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Steve, I owned a fleet of early 'Cuda's. All Formula S cars and all 273's. Boy were they stones compared to any 289.
I once had a 65 Dart GT 273 HIPO 4 speed that I bought very cheap in 1973. I "appropriated" a warrantee 68 340 stick engine from work that needed only a rocker arm and push rod.
I had a warrantee AVS carb and used the 273 exhaust manifolds and dumb a$$ giant HIPO single exhuast system. Even all choked up and with only 3.23 gears, that car was a monster. 14.0's on D-70 x 14 tires walking it out of the hole. That car made me about $1500 in two weeks $20 to $50 at a crack. It was such a mundane looking little pee pee car and with the 273 FOUR BARREL emblems on it, everyone spotted me cars.
I sold it to a guy who still bracket races it today. Same 340 block, but with W heads and a bunch of other changes.

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