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Topic: Neutral Drops/Street Racing, part 3!
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 1367
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 12-10-2002 10:59 AM
   
Well, that post was getting a bit long as well, so I figured in the interest of those dial-up guys, it would be a good time to start another page... I like the idea of late night 'instant green' racing at local race tracks as well. You'd get a lot of the bracket guys hopping up their cars and installing nitrous systems to go play with the 'outlaws'. It would be fun!  To stay true to the name of the thread, I'll tell one more story... On those huge concrete straight stretches mentioned earlier, I got in a race with a 69 Camaro. This was with the most current 302 nitrous engine.  The camaro had a high compression 406 with a solid roller, Bill Mitchell Dart heads, huge Brodix intake, CS tuned Holley, automatic trans, 4.11 gear, and those soft compound MT I-block street tires. (predecessors of Drag Radials) I had a 302 with 289 heads, 650 double pumper, flat tappet solid lifter cam, 4-speed, 3.89 gear and rock hard radial tires. Oh yea, I also had nitrous. He didn't. We both had a pretty good reputation in town, so there were plenty of people who made the trip to watch the show. There were about an equal number of people cheering for each car, and the race was an 'instant on' flashlight start that went for 1/4 mile. On launch, (as expected with the soft tires and auto trans) he pulled me a little (but only about a carlength). I launched pretty good, spun pretty hard through second gear, but still managed to stay right on his back bumper... Once the car was settled into 3rd gear, I saw we were probably just going to stay that way to the finish line... so I hit the nitrous and waved to him as I went by! I held it on through 4th gear as well, and put a nice amount of distance on him. Yea, I had to use the bottle, but he knew that. If I hadn't, they would have sworn I did... so be it. We were already good buds, and we teased each other about that race for quite some time. It wasn't long before he went shopping for a nitrous system... but he sold the car to another friend of ours. He never put the bottle on it, but we raced each other constantly without nitrous. Whoever got the holeshot, would usually get the win... unless it went well into 4th gear, then I would slightly pull him. At the 1/8 mile (no bottle, but with slicks) I ran a 7.48, he ran a 7.45  Good Luck, and be safe! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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MrWesson22
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From: Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 12-10-2002 11:48 AM
Okay, I guess I'd better post one. My car's been not running/running poorly for so long, I haven't had any in quite in a while. I'm also very picky about who/when/where. That said, this race was in August 2000 (I bought the car July 23, 2000). A buddy of mine was moving down to south GA, and this was to be his last night up in Dacula. He'd decided he wanted to do a little hellraising for a last hurrah and my car was the perfect candidate for the job. We left at around 2am (this was a Tuesday night) so there wouldn't be any traffic or witnesses We were heading south on Harbins Rd about to cross Hwy 316 (major divided 4 lane hwy that becomes limited access right after the redlight at Harbins) to go out into the "country" for a little mischief and fun. Like every good intersection in Georgia, there's a Waffle House at the corner of 316 and Harbins. As I'm sitting at the light, a loud, bright red 67 Nova heading east on 316 makes a left at the light, fishtailing through the intersection, and makes another quick left into the Waffle House parking light, again fishtailing a little as he turns. Naturally, he spotted me and gave me "the look" as he passed by. While I was paying attention to his spirited driving, my light had finally turned green. I started through the intersection thinking he might be a fun race, I looked over at Robert to see what he was thinking. Robert knew exactly what I was thinking and just said "Go for it" with a huge grin on his face. I was still in first gear, so I just punched it and cut the wheel to make a fun little smokey U-turn back to Waffle House. I pulled in next to the Nova, and he immediately asked me "Whatcha got?". I tell him 351 and find out he's running a 327/TH350. He wants to run from a 30mph roll on 316, which is fine with me since I'm running on 225/70R14s with a 3.00 open rear. I let him get the jump, so he gets about half a car on me initially. I've already gained it back and we're even as I shift into second. As I grab third, I'm 2 carlengths ahead and we're above the 65mph speed limit, so I let off the gas there. He gets up beside me, we exchange thumbs up (Robert too - he's grinning like a stuck pig at this point), and he motions for me to follow him and turns into the QT (a gas station) parking lot. We stop and BS for a while. I find out he's running a very mild combination -- mild cam, performer intake, edelbrock 4 barrel, headers, duals, glasspacks, and a "shift kit". At the time I was running a 351C 2V with a performer intake, holley 600, hooker longtubes, duals, some unknown quiet mufflers with full tailpipes, a pertronix, a 4 speed, and basically stock everything else. We decide to run again from a redlight, as he thinks he can take me off the line. He also says he'll pull on the topend with his "high revving 327", so I tell him I'll wind it out but his "Chevy ain't gonna see nothin but Mustang taillights". Friendly trash-talking makes racing even more fun, IMO. So we catch the light at Hwy 8 by the gas station heading back east on 316. I spin off the line, of course, but am back even by the time I hit about 30mph. I miss my shift into second (dammit!), and he gains half a carlength. From there, it was all me. I stayed in it through fourth (I was buslengths ahead by then) until I hit 5600rpms. How fast is 5600 in 4th with 26" rear tires and a 3.00 gear? I dunno, but I do know it was way too fast to be going on stock 69 suspension. Anyway, Robert never did get that street sign he wanted since we went home after cruising around a bit after that, but he wasn't the least bit disappointed.cliff notes: Raced a 67 Nova as a last hurrah for a friend moving away. His 327 was outgunned by my 351C.
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Neal 69 Gulfstream Aqua Grande
351C/4sp
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Just Strokin
Gearhead Posts: 754
From: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-10-2002 12:02 PM
5600 in 4th gear with 3.00 and 26 inch tires is about 144mph.Reminds me of the last time I tuned up my long since sold 70 Mach with a 351C toploader with 3.00 gears and G60 tires. Coming home from a night on the town on a long stretch of rural interstate in Alabama, we let her wind out for the 14 miles till the exit we needed to get off on. The last look at the tach thru beer soaked eyes was around 5800rpm and the speedo had long been past the 120 mark. Today, I shudder to think what would have happened if a deer had ran out in front of us or a blown tire. Needless to say, we were over driving the head lights for a sober person. And to top that, I later got married and traded the Stang for a 73 Pinto so the now Ex could get around town.  To bad I couldn't traded her back for the Stang when we got divorced. hehehe ------------------
Larry No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel.
And one rusty 64 Fairlane nick-named the Rust Bucket....And sometimes called the Money Pit... The sounds of a brain dropping into gear.....
"Buzzzzzz.......Click"
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Fastymz
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Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-10-2002 02:32 PM
I keep writing to every one I can to get them to open a track here in town.We have a great place for it already.I really would care if it was a 1/8 or 1/4 mile track.I'd rather race at the track,but I know plenty of street racers that cant or wont race at the track.They say it's not as much fun.I couldn't disagree more with them.I like racing the instant green lights.I know my cars not fast but it's still alot of fun.SCOOP ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 12-10-2002 03:18 PM
Back in 1978 or 79 I used to have a 70 chebbie C-20 as a tow vehicle. (it was a good deal and my first truck)350 4v with a 3 speed stick. I had it for a long time.
After a couple of years it was getting tired. All I had done to it was a nice dual exhuast system, electronic ignition, and blue printed the quadra bog.
I had a 350 4 bolt block and a steel crank. I decided to build the ultimate 350 chebbie tow motor.
TRW 10 to 1 pistons, nice double bump heads with 1.94 valves, screw in studs, all good bolts, 260 H Comp cam, long slot rockers stc. It was all topped off with a Holley Economaster crossover intake and Jimmy Carter 625 carb. I had some prototype DOug Thorley Tri-Y truck headers that I obtained.
I got a 4 speed Saginaw GM trans out of a Starfire (Olds Monza) that had some incredible first gear, and a hurst shifter. This way I could change out the 3.73 gears for some 3.55's and still have good towing power. I had put some huge Cooper 12.50 x 15 tires with white spoke wheels on it and it rode and looked good. It was up a little higher and most thought that it was a 4x4.
Well it ran great and went from 12 MPG to about 16. I was very happy as it ran a bunch faster too.
One night at the shop some of the boyz came over for some parts and we got to talking about the truck and how well it ws running. One of the boyz had a real dog 65 442 with a hopped up 350. It might have run a high 14 or so. He was asking me about a cam selection/recomendation. His brother kind of got on his case and wondered why he would ask a Ford man about an Olds. He had a 75 442 with a transplanted 455 and TH-400 that was pretty fast considering. Low 13's or so with slicks and open headers. They had been buying all JC Whitneys parts and I recomended a W-30 Olds OEM cam as I had a lot of succes with them in street cars.
Later that week while crusing the street hang outs one night(it had calmed down a bunch by now and street racing was almost by appointment only as the times and social climate they had changed)I ran into a few of the guys and we had an adult beverage or two while shooting the crap. I had the truck with me and it ws looking and sounding very nice. One of the guys had a 69 or 70 BUick 225 with pipes and raced it a bit. Mostly flying mile stuff. One thing led to another and they talked me into racing the Buick with my truck. We raced for $20 and a six pack of malt liquor. That was the first time I had ever brought the truck out of the hole and power shifted it. It barked the heck out of those big tires and ran great. I won.
Back at the corner I shared a portion of my winnings with the other boyz and while we talked more trash the Williams bros showed up with the 65 442. A few more malts later and I was racing the Olds for $50 and fun I thought.. I promptly trounced it and they were quite upset. They had just installed a NEW ultra hot JC Whitneys $39 "full race cam" and a new carbustretor. 
Later that week they came by the shop at night again and asked if I wanted to race the truck once more. I declined sighting the fact that the truck was a tow vehicle and not a race car. After some serious signifying and name calling I agreed to race once more.
I had spys everywhere at that time as I did a lot of work for a lot of street/drag racers. I had header that the WIlliams bros were swapping out the 350 for the other brothers 455 during the week. 
I had just began palying around with No2 a bit and decided that two could play at this game. I went over to my parts distributor and bought a Marvin Miller bolt on plate No2 kit.
About two hours later it was up and running.
I mounted the activation switch on the shifter using a Hurst line lock momentary button.
I went out for a road test and all I could say was WOW! I used up the whole ten pound tank. It was a blast. I had the tank refilled and went on to meet my competition later that Friday night. My information was correct as the 65 442 sounded a bunch better. They really thought that they had suckered me. We only raced for $200 or $300 as I recall, hardly worth the efforts put forth, but it was an "honor thing" I guess.
I had the bottle mounted on the passenger side floor of the cab. It was covered by a jacket.
As we were lining up and I pulled a couple of short hops just to knock the dust off of the tires. I reached down and turned on the bottle. I purged it and nobody could see as it exhuasted under the big truck hood.
We took off without too much of a fuss as neither vehicle had slicks or open headers. The Olds had me by about 1/2 a car length through a very short first gear. As I powershifted second I hit the juice and whooomp! I was gone. Third gear, then fourth and I had the Olds by just over a truck length. That was my first experiance with Nitrous Oxide. The bothers dejectedly paid up and went on home scratching their heads. I never told anyone about the juice. I left it on the truck for about another week then removed it and installed it on MM. But that's yet another story. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 12-10-2002 03:33 PM
I cant believe how many guys around here use nitrous.
When I was at the track late this summer.It seemed all but a few cars didn't have it.And many were telling me that they had a hidden system and would use it only if needed.A few never told tech either.
It would seems like a good way to go for street racers.
My pops has always wanted to try a kit he keeps trying to talk me into getting one.For now I'd rather use all motor,but it sure is tempting. Most guys I talk to about it say they can pick up an easy second or more.SCOOP ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 914
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-10-2002 11:13 PM
DANG!!! Another great set of stories guys!!Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-13-2002 01:44 PM
One of the most memorible winning street encounters I ever had was also against a Chevelle.
Towards the end of MM's street driving career(the 289 HIPO short block was getting tired needing a rebuild and I soon retired it from "driver" status)it was running exceptionally well. Normally a sure sign that a motor was getting ready to blow up.
One warm Friday night at our primary meeting spot, it was exceptionally crowded. There was a guy with a 70 SS 454 4 speed Chevelle called "the Rapper". He had raced 3 guys already that night and won. Actually he had a reputation of never being beaten. While shooting the breeze with friends some of the Rapper's confederates approached us with a proposition to race for $200. I played very coy and told them that he was just to tough for me.
Meanwhile a guy with a puke green 70 SS 454 automatic Monte Carlo showed up specifically to race the Rapper. It was jacked way up in the back and was all gummed up. They negotiated a pot and set up a heads up race.
I walked down to about the mid point so I could get a good view of both cars.
Headers open and both sounding good, they lined up. The Rapper pulled the Monte Carlo about a car out of the hole and picked up about two feet with each gear change. He was a truck shifter so the car bounced a lot during each shift. Well the Rapper won again and they were really stoked now. I had an idea of what the Monte Carlo could turn at the strip and judged that the Rapper was only a very low 13 second car at best.
They again approched us and this time were offering a spot. Two car lengths for $200. I thought about it for a bit and said, how about 3 cars for $300? Cocky as hell, they immediatly agreed.
We got to work on MM, opening up the headers, removing the big aluminum Tri-Power aircleaner assembly and adjusting tire pressure. The car had been sitting for a while and was nice and cool.
We fired up and pulled up to the designated starting line. The crowd had increased to what looked like over 1000 spectators. As I pulled my first short hop I looked out in front of me and hundreds people lined both sides of the street.
The three car lengths were measured off and the starter took up his position between us. MM felt very good and as I brought up the RPM slowly it really sounded awesome!
I floored it and dumped the clutch about 6500 RPM, the car shot out and I grabbed second. It felt so good that I completely lost track of the Chevelle. I hit third and looked in the mirror and the Rapper was far behind. I wasn't confident enough to lift as I could hear the 454 coming on hard. As it turned out, it was all noise and he could not come within two cars of me. It was a great feeling and that race really made my reputation. He told me later that his clutch was slipping badly and he new he was in trouble when he shifted second. No matter as we beat the Rapper and the money spent well. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 914
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-13-2002 02:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
He was a truck shifter so the car bounced a lot during each shift.I floored it and dumped the clutch about 6500 RPM, the car shot out and I grabbed second.
What's a "truck shifter"? Also, do you get any traction on the street dumping the clutch at 6500? I would have to assume you had some sort of sticky tire. Great story!! Erik
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Fastymz
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posted 12-13-2002 02:15 PM
Another great story Alex.Erik truck shifting is when you shift slow and the car dives down then back up. SCOOP ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 12-13-2002 02:55 PM
Truck shifting is sort of like double clutching in between gear changes.
I had 8.90 x 15 Goodyear Blue Streak Dragway Special slicks mounted on 15 x 7 Magnum 500's on the car. Period for the time. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 12-15-2002 07:44 PM
Any of you guys every raced Bikes too.
I used to have when I was younger a 750 Katana.That was one dam fast bike.I won many of races with that.
Scary out of the hole,but would pull like a mother,all the way up to 120mph+++.
I have a raced a few bikes too.I have won agaist alot of them.Just look for the riders who look like they just started riding. SCOOP ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-15-2002 07:46 PM
Only when I was REAL stupid! ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 12-15-2002 07:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Only when I was REAL stupid!
Ok I'll 2nd that,not the most smart thing to do.But hey I was young and wild once.
And even sober at least one day a week.
I did alot things when I was younger that was not smart. SCOOP
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oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-15-2002 07:55 PM
Drinking only made me more stupid.
Booze, a hopped hp KZ1000, and balls of steel made for a very dangerous package.
If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't!
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 12-15-2002 07:59 PM
Those old KZ1000 had some balls,all motor and little bike to go around it.
I know a guy here in town that still races and old KZ1000.He turns in the 10's at fallon.He's drunk more then half the time he's there.Drinking never made me more wize either. ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 12-15-2002 08:23 PM
One of my best friends had a 1985 FZ750 Yamaha. It came from the factory with 5 valves per cylinder and an 11.2 compression ratio...Only this guy's bike had nice set of $1000 carbs, ported head, header, and nitrous You hit the bottle in 4th or 5th gear in the midrange, and it was instant wheelie time! We normally jetted it for 60-75hp, and used a larger 5lb bottle for more staying power. I rode it a lot, and the thing flat scared the sh*t out of me one night... I was riding it at night on the interstate to where we went to college. (he was with his girlfriend in the car) A sport bike came up beside me and wanted to play.... Rodney said to go get em', so I did! I have no idea just how fast we were cranking out that road, but it was scary fast. Keep in mind, this is West Virginia... not even the interstates are perfectly straight. You gotta ride the damn thing out here! Well, I burned his a$$, and Rodney eventually caught up in the car and we had a few beers when we finally reached our destination! It was one of those times when you are feeling every fiber of your being... Be Safe! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-15-2002 11:17 PM
I had a brace of 40mm Mikuni's on mine in addition to a pair of Andrews cams, and of course the obligatory (at the time) Kerker header. 4 inch extended swing arm and geared to death. Oh yeah, did I mention the MTC 1075cc 12.5 to 1 kit? Yeah, I did fast Bikes too! 10.90's on a Dunlop "R" driving it to the track in the very early 1980's.
Usually drinking a six pack along the way. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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CJR
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posted 12-15-2002 11:36 PM
Could that FZ have been Rodney Coon's bike by chance?
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n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
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posted 12-16-2002 08:01 AM
Sure is... Small world! He still has it too. (engine is worn out and needs a rebuilt) Where do you know him from?There are TONS of stories centered around that character! We still live in the same town. His kid has been riding since the age of 3, and is kicking a$$ on his KX65 in amateur motorcross. ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-16-2002 10:00 AM
Boy, we had some fun in the early seventies!
Some of the Boyz had a pretty nice white 70 Riviera GS. I had installed a 3.91 gear in it for them and they raced it a bunch. It was a high to mid 14 second car with open 2.5 dumps and won a lot of street races.
They had taken it to Ced's Muffler service (our main custom exhaust installer and one of my homes away from home) to have some headers made. The sound and smell of open headers must have gotten to their brain as they fully thought that the car picked up a full second. They began racing lighter traditional muscle cars instead of only hopped up luxury land yachts. They began to lose. I had gotten some parts for them from Kenne-Bell and was at the time the only Chicago area dealer. They contacted Kenne-Bell on their own and purchased a complete, 468 inch tunnel ram equipped, 455 Buick race engine. BIG BUCKS!
It was shipped by truck and upon it's arrival the boyz installed it themselves.
Two days later after it still wouldn't start, they towed it over to my house. The car had an in tank fuel pump and it was triggered by the oil pressure sending unit. Anyway, I got it running and all tuned up. The hood would not fit with the tunnel ram and two 660 Holley carbs sticking up. The boyz did not want to expose the engine and all of it's tricks so they went hood scoop shopping. I recomended a subtle Vette styled scoop, or even a Boss 429 unit. As it turned out they went to Warshawsky's (JC Whitneys to you non Chicago types) and picked up a tear drop A/FX scoop. Fortunatly the stopped over by me at work on their way to the body shop and I was able to explain to them that the holes go to the rear, and not the front. They would have had it mounted backwards. All in all after paint it didn't look too bad on the Riv. Fast forward to Friday night and I'm in my garage working on a buddies 442 getting ready for a match race with another 442. The boyz come over and want me to look it over one more time as they have a race locked up with a 69 DOdge R/T convert. My old nemisis Country was enlisted to drive the R/T. All was as well as it could be and the car sounded like a monster. Unfortunatly, the 13 inch torque converter (even with a switch pitch) wasn't up to the task of getting the big Buick under way. I had already cut back the secondary throttle cams on the 660 Holleys as far as I could to delay their opening, and had a very quick curve in the Mallory dual point.
The Riv had some tall 9.00 x 15 M&H slicks mounted on Riviera mags which didn't help matters. I pumped the tires up to 20 lbs or so and told them I would meet them at the spot.
I arrived and the trash talk was going at 200 MPH. The $500 wager was now up to over $2000 By the time my other friends and I had added our pennies, the pot was $5000.
The race was to be heads up, gummed and uncorked. I raised the hood on the Riv with about 25 guys standing around blocking the engine compartment from vision so I could remove the small chrome air cleaners. A couple of the boyz were opening the headers while I checked incidentals like lug nuts, tire pressure and the course itself.
The signal went out that they were ready and so were we.
I fired up the Riv for the first time with the headers open and boy did it come to life! The glass pack mufflers they had were apparently really restrictive. Off the line response was much better, but still sluggish.
We both pulled some short hops after our bleach burnouts, and I could see that the Dodge was out leaving me. I then made my decision. I had to be careful as I knew that the RIv had a CV drive shaft.
We staged up and by pre arrangment promised not to screw around with a lot of cheat jumping. Country torqued up the R/T and I put the RIv's horse shoe shifter into neutral. The starter pointed to both of us and I brought the car up to about 2500 RPM.
At just the right moment I snatched it back into low as I floored it and the big Buick roared off like a shot. It even spun a bit.
Well, I pulled the R/T by about 2 car lengths at mid course and held him that way to the finish. The boyz were happy. They eventually transplanted the engine into a 71 GSX, but that's another story. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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CJR
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posted 12-17-2002 11:03 PM
Born and raised around Spencer. I knew Rodney and Chad back when I was racing motorcross. They used to hang out at Dave McCutcheon's place alot. I remember a nice little red pony that always sat behind the theater too. I'm in the AF now in NC and don't get home much anymore but I'm sure nothing much has changed to include the Sat. night races at chicken farm or dogcreek.Chuck Ross
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-22-2002 10:02 PM
I think I feel the need to go out and neutral drop something tomorrow. now what was that Hertz office phone number...... ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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