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Topic: MSD 6AL and Pertronix Ignitor...?
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 05:06 PM
 
I'm wanting to get rid of my points ignition. I'm not very familar with different types of ignition, but I want to have electronic ignition and have a rev limiter. Do I need to install the Pertronix Ignitor and then also install the MSD 6AL box, or is the MSD 6AL box just a bigger, better version of the Pertronix Ignitor with a rev limiter. By the way, right now all of my ignition parts (coil, distributor, wires...) are stock.
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BlueMule
Gearhead Posts: 1781
From: Kent Island, MD USA M&M # 2423
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 05:12 PM
I'm sure you'll get as many opinions as you will get answers. Let me add, most if not all are valid. That's what's nice about this place. The pertonix fits inside the stock distributor. No external boxes as such. If you're doin' serious racing or part time and are not worried abot originality, go for the other after market stuff. '67 right? Welcome to M&M... ------------------
-Paul 70 Mach1
79 Ranchero GT
97 Expedition XLT
00 SVT f150 Lightning 4149 of 4966 Born on: 06/26/2000 'life's tough... it's tougher if you're stupid.' [This message has been edited by BlueMule (edited 12-05-2002).]
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 05:38 PM
yea, its a '67 with a 289. I mainly want to know if the msd box replaces the points and condenser...because I know that the Pertonix Ignitor does. I don't really care about the big box, because I will probably hide it in the glove box.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9835
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-05-2002 05:43 PM
No the MSD does not replace the points/condenser.SteveW
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 05:47 PM
Will the MSD box work with the pertronix ignitor? Or is it really that neccessary to get rid of the points and condenser? I want to stop that stuttering and hard starting when its cold.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9835
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-05-2002 06:08 PM
Yes, you can use the petronics to trigger the MSD box. But it's better to use a Ford DuraSpark distributor to trigger the MSD in my opinion. A rebuilt DuraSpark distributor is about $50 (used in late 70's 302ci Fords) Also look at the Crane HI-6 ignition with a built in adjustable rev limiter, it's cheaper and works very well.
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 22791
From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-05-2002 07:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Yes, you can use the petronics to trigger the MSD box. But it's better to use a Ford DuraSpark distributor to trigger the MSD in my opinion. A rebuilt DuraSpark distributor is about $50 (used in late 70's 302ci Fords) Also look at the Crane HI-6 ignition with a built in adjustable rev limiter, it's cheaper and works very well.
I'd go the Duraspark way the 1st time.Next time my pertronix gose out AGAIN I'm doing the duraspark too. SCOOP ------------------
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 08:02 PM
Instead of buying the duraspark and the ignition box, is there a setup that I can get that does everything...replaces points, and has a rev limiter?
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9835
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-05-2002 08:11 PM
None that I know of.SteveW
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9835
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-05-2002 08:14 PM
Did you know that you can use the stock points to trigger a Crane box? There is very little current so the points will last a long time. Just a thought,SteveW
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GT350Clone
Journeyman Posts: 88
From: Kansas
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 12-06-2002 08:18 AM
CRANE has a new setup coming out in the next month that replaces the points AND has a built-in rev limiter.....Don't know too much about it, but I heard January 03, and a price under $100. Might check Jegs or Summit for more details. Looks pretty good at first glance....  ------------------
My webpage: www.gt350clone.com
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1459
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-06-2002 09:44 AM
I second SteveW's suggestion as I have the duraspark distributor and it's well worth it over a Petronix IMO. It's also running off the MSD 6AL with NO problems whatsoever. I believe they're less than $75.00 at Autozone + the core charge. If you decide to go that route, just return your points distributor for your core $$$ back.  I could also help you with wiring procedures for a Duraspark/6AL combo. Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 12-06-2002 01:47 PM
That "Crane XR-i" points to electronic conversion with rev limiter looks like exactly what I need. And its only $70. Has anybody heard anymore about it?http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=112615&prmenbr=361
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Hemikiller
Gearhead Posts: 726
From: Killingworth, CT
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 12-07-2002 01:15 AM
Here are my thoughts....Get the MSD if $ permits, you will reap many benefits in driveability and performance. You can use your existing points distributor to trigger it. When $ permits, you can get a Duraspark distributor or the Crane XR-I upgrade and get rid of the points. As far as I'm convcerned, the Pertronix is NOT any sort of performance upgrade, and the reliability seems a bit suspect as well...... The electronic XR-I will not improve performance, etc like an MSD, as it is not a capacitive discharge multi-spark ignition, just an electronic version of your points (magnetic breaker) I do recommend that you upgrade to a performance wire set when you install an MSD, as the current to the plug is increased substantially..........
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 12-08-2002 05:00 PM
Even though the crane XR-i isn't goin to be good for extra performance, will it at least solve the problem of the engine stuttering and hard starting in the cold weather since it replaces the points?
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