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Dubz
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posted 12-04-2002 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
which headers would be the best for a street/strip 351W???

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posted 12-04-2002 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on the body you are intending on using.

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posted 12-04-2002 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
It depends on the body you are intending on using.


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Dubz
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posted 12-05-2002 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone???

i'm looking at hooker super comps or hedman tork step. Neither will fit with my c6, but i figured i could maybe fab them to fit. any other headers i should be looking at??

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posted 12-05-2002 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the Hooker super comps.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-05-2002 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If they said it won't fit a C6, I'd believe them. They want to sell headers more than you want to buy them.

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posted 12-05-2002 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but NOBODY sells headers for 351W with a c6

so what do i do???

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Fastymz
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posted 12-05-2002 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Email TomP he builds headers and knows alot about them too.

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posted 12-05-2002 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dubz:
but NOBODY sells headers for 351W with a c6

so what do i do???


What year Torino do you have?

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posted 12-05-2002 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I just noticed the '74 in your sig...

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posted 12-05-2002 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good luck finding anything for a 74 either, they are exactly the same as a 73 tho and just about every company makes them for up to 73

go figure

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posted 12-05-2002 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doug Thorley has them listed as: 68-74 260-302W Fairlane, Torino, Ranchero. THY-268

You could check and see if they'd work for the 351W. It's odd that they don't list it.

http://www.thorleyheaders.com/ford_headers.html

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posted 12-05-2002 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought FlowTech has something for you, but again no C6.

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posted 12-05-2002 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dumb question, but you're sure you have a C6, right?

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posted 12-05-2002 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
positive, crawled under the car and looked at the pan with the notch in it...

installed a B&M shifter and used the c6 tranny parts

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posted 12-05-2002 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bummer. Why don't you email Summit and see if they have any suggestions?

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posted 12-05-2002 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i found a set of shorties that would work from hedman....but i want long tubes cause they are better

i may have to settle for the shorties but wondered what i would have to do to modify headers to fit a c6

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posted 12-06-2002 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a 351W 74 Torino isn't a big market for header companies. Luckily the car has enough room that something else may fit, even 289-302 Mustang headers may be able to work.

If you look at the Thorley site you'll notice they only list three small block headers ... the #289 Tri-Y's ,#285 for 79-up Fox body and #268 for everything else.

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posted 12-06-2002 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm more having a problem finding headers that fit any 351W with a c6 tranny....just about every company makes them for my car

but not the combo
there are only 3 other people i know of on torino boards that have the same 351W/C6 combo so it wasn't very popular

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smblk t-bolt
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posted 12-06-2002 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smblk t-bolt   Click Here to Email smblk t-bolt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what part doesnt fit?do the headers not clear the c-6 bellhousing,or is it that the headers wont fit in your engine compartment without rubbing?(thats easy to cure...hehehe )
I have a 351 with a c-6 and there doesnt seem to be any problem...but dont ask what brand..they are olllld and I've foregotten.but they look pretty generic( as opposed to me, who looks very geriatric)

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posted 12-06-2002 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they might all fit, but every site that has about headers either doesn't make that combo or has a footnote "not for use with c6 transmisson" or "automatic : c-4 only". So this would lead me to belive that they won't clear the bellhousing

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posted 12-06-2002 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang   Click Here to Email Rustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ran a pair of "Coyote" headers on my '67. They cost around $80.00/pair, actually fit pretty well, (no clearance problems, header bolts even were easy to get to for a windsor). Coyote was Hooker's off-brand header, I don't know if they even exist any more. And yes, I ran the times posted below with them!

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posted 12-07-2002 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
which would you suggest on a 351W without worrying about the tranny
the Hooker super-comps or the Hedman Tork-step?? or is there any other brand that i should look at?

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posted 12-07-2002 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I've seen, heard, and read,I'd say go with the super comps they seem to make the best power.They are real well built and have about the best flange I've seen.

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posted 12-09-2002 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try these guys, I am using their headers on my Mustang, very nice headers, maybe they have one for your application, ask for Stan.

www.fordpowertrain.com

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They might mean that the linkage wont clear. I stuck some ratty old ones off a Maverick, (right out of the dumpster, after he wanted manifolds back on it) that fit my 76. I might have hit them with a ballpein on one tube to clear something, as they were 302 originals.

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posted 12-12-2002 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Dubz, if I were you, i'd call Heddman and Hooker's tech support line. Tell them your combo and what they'd recommend. I'm sure one of them can cross reference a part number with your combo/car.

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posted 12-12-2002 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rockafellz:
Hey Dubz, if I were you, i'd call Heddman and Hooker's tech support line. Tell them your combo and what they'd recommend. I'm sure one of them can cross reference a part number with your combo/car.

Erik


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posted 12-12-2002 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although it wasnt a windsor, I had a set of hedders on my cleveland that the manufacturer claimed wouldnt fit with a c6. The area it was tight, was by the pan. We had to modify the flange on the collector to make it fit (we had to cut notch it so the pan wouldnt hit it and cut the reducer to match).

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posted 12-12-2002 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could make a set. it's not much fun though. Stahl headers sells weld up kits for just about anything.

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posted 12-12-2002 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would i be able to run two exhaust gaskets to make it a little wider or put in a metal spacer or something???

if not the hammer method might work

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