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Topic: best headers???
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-04-2002 05:27 PM
   
which headers would be the best for a street/strip 351W???------------------
1974 Gran Torino, 351W
1970 Mustang Grande, 289 Just a young buck
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-04-2002 05:46 PM
It depends on the body you are intending on using.  ------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-04-2002 06:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
It depends on the body you are intending on using.
torino
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 06:27 PM
anyone???i'm looking at hooker super comps or hedman tork step. Neither will fit with my c6, but i figured i could maybe fab them to fit. any other headers i should be looking at?? ------------------
1974 Gran Torino, 351W
1970 Mustang Grande, 289 Just a young buck
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-05-2002 06:34 PM
I like the Hooker super comps. SteveW
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-05-2002 06:39 PM
If they said it won't fit a C6, I'd believe them. They want to sell headers more than you want to buy them.------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 07:16 PM
but NOBODY sells headers for 351W with a c6so what do i do???
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-05-2002 07:18 PM
Email TomP he builds headers and knows alot about them too. SCOOP ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-05-2002 07:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dubz:
but NOBODY sells headers for 351W with a c6so what do i do???
What year Torino do you have? ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-05-2002 07:36 PM
Sorry, I just noticed the '74 in your sig...  ------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 07:40 PM
good luck finding anything for a 74 either, they are exactly the same as a 73 tho and just about every company makes them for up to 73go figure
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-05-2002 08:01 PM
Doug Thorley has them listed as: 68-74 260-302W Fairlane, Torino, Ranchero. THY-268You could check and see if they'd work for the 351W. It's odd that they don't list it. http://www.thorleyheaders.com/ford_headers.html ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
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posted 12-05-2002 08:25 PM
I thought FlowTech has something for you, but again no C6.------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-05-2002 08:26 PM
Dumb question, but you're sure you have a C6, right?------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 08:29 PM
positive, crawled under the car and looked at the pan with the notch in it...installed a B&M shifter and used the c6 tranny parts
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 33371
From: Saco, Maine
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posted 12-05-2002 08:30 PM
Bummer. Why don't you email Summit and see if they have any suggestions?------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-05-2002 08:37 PM
i found a set of shorties that would work from hedman....but i want long tubes cause they are betteri may have to settle for the shorties but wondered what i would have to do to modify headers to fit a c6
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 4812
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 12-06-2002 01:01 AM
a 351W 74 Torino isn't a big market for header companies. Luckily the car has enough room that something else may fit, even 289-302 Mustang headers may be able to work.If you look at the Thorley site you'll notice they only list three small block headers ... the #289 Tri-Y's ,#285 for 79-up Fox body and #268 for everything else.
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-06-2002 02:23 AM
i'm more having a problem finding headers that fit any 351W with a c6 tranny....just about every company makes them for my carbut not the combo
there are only 3 other people i know of on torino boards that have the same 351W/C6 combo so it wasn't very popular
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smblk t-bolt
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: port alberni BC Canada
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 12-06-2002 02:49 AM
what part doesnt fit?do the headers not clear the c-6 bellhousing,or is it that the headers wont fit in your engine compartment without rubbing?(thats easy to cure...hehehe  )
I have a 351 with a c-6 and there doesnt seem to be any problem...but dont ask what brand..they are olllld and I've foregotten.but they look pretty generic( as opposed to me, who looks very geriatric)[This message has been edited by smblk t-bolt (edited 12-06-2002).]
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-06-2002 02:54 AM
they might all fit, but every site that has about headers either doesn't make that combo or has a footnote "not for use with c6 transmisson" or "automatic : c-4 only". So this would lead me to belive that they won't clear the bellhousing
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 471
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-06-2002 06:33 AM
I ran a pair of "Coyote" headers on my '67. They cost around $80.00/pair, actually fit pretty well, (no clearance problems, header bolts even were easy to get to for a windsor). Coyote was Hooker's off-brand header, I don't know if they even exist any more. And yes, I ran the times posted below with them!------------------
'68 mustang 351 clevor- 10.92@124
'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
'78 Pickup 351W-15.56@88
'79 Pickup 460 ET=??
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-07-2002 01:25 AM
which would you suggest on a 351W without worrying about the tranny
the Hooker super-comps or the Hedman Tork-step?? or is there any other brand that i should look at?
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 11429
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-07-2002 04:50 PM
From what I've seen, heard, and read,I'd say go with the super comps they seem to make the best power.They are real well built and have about the best flange I've seen.SCOOP ------------------
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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ccode67
Gearhead Posts: 1605
From: douglasville,ga,usa
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-09-2002 07:59 AM
Try these guys, I am using their headers on my Mustang, very nice headers, maybe they have one for your application, ask for Stan.www.fordpowertrain.com ------------------
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HIGH-RISER
Journeyman Posts: 28
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Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 10:28 AM
They might mean that the linkage wont clear. I stuck some ratty old ones off a Maverick, (right out of the dumpster, after he wanted manifolds back on it) that fit my 76. I might have hit them with a ballpein on one tube to clear something, as they were 302 originals.
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1291
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-12-2002 11:18 AM
Hey Dubz, if I were you, i'd call Heddman and Hooker's tech support line. Tell them your combo and what they'd recommend. I'm sure one of them can cross reference a part number with your combo/car.Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 03:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rockafellz:
Hey Dubz, if I were you, i'd call Heddman and Hooker's tech support line. Tell them your combo and what they'd recommend. I'm sure one of them can cross reference a part number with your combo/car.Erik
been done, and they don't have jack shiot!  ------------------
1974 Gran Torino, 351W
1970 Mustang Grande, 289 Just a young buck
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 4538
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 12-12-2002 03:45 PM
Although it wasnt a windsor, I had a set of hedders on my cleveland that the manufacturer claimed wouldnt fit with a c6. The area it was tight, was by the pan. We had to modify the flange on the collector to make it fit (we had to cut notch it so the pan wouldnt hit it and cut the reducer to match).
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 1677
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 07:46 PM
You could make a set. it's not much fun though. Stahl headers sells weld up kits for just about anything.
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 08:09 PM
would i be able to run two exhaust gaskets to make it a little wider or put in a metal spacer or something???if not the hammer method might work
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