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Topic: I need help making a torque over strap
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-01-2002 05:29 PM
   
I know to bolt to the head and down near the sway bar mounts.
But between the fuel pump and the oil sending unit.Which using an extension tube to the block.I cant figure out how to make one.
Since I got the holley jetted better.My air cleaner now hit the hood on one side.It's made a small dent in the air cleaner.If you guys have any pictures or idea's please let me know.  SCOOP ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-01-2002 05:38 PM
Ron, you need to make a strap that bolts to the front of the head. Then have it go down to the fram rail where you can make an "L" bracket to bolt the strap to. It won't come near the fuel pump or oil sender that way. ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 11-01-2002 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Ron, you need to make a strap that bolts to the front of the head. Then have it go down to the fram rail where you can make an "L" bracket to bolt the strap to. It won't come near the fuel pump or oil sender that way.
So drill into the top of the frame rail? The front of the head part I got. Would you make it so it dosen't move at all or let it have some play like a chain type? Ron
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-01-2002 06:10 PM
NO PLAY Ron. Make it solid as you can.It will help you pull wheelies.  ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 11-01-2002 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
NO PLAY Ron. Make it solid as you can.It will help you pull wheelies.
Thanks Alex, I'm not to the pulling wheelies stage yet.I'm just happy that the whole car makes it to the end of the track. Ron
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mustangboy
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From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 11-01-2002 07:37 PM
Scoop I wouldn't drill into the frame rail I would just use one of the bolts from the swaybar mount like you were saying.Sounds like you've awakened the beast in that 351  [This message has been edited by mustangboy (edited 11-01-2002).]
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-01-2002 07:44 PM
I guess that you can do that too but it places the geometry way over to the right that way.  ------------------
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kid vishus
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posted 11-01-2002 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I guess that you can do that too but it places the geometry way over to the right that way.
I'm curious, how much different is the sway bar mount location in the 65's than in my 69? I have mine in the sway bar mount and it doesnt look bad to me. Are the cars that much different? (I really dont know, I have never really looked at a 65-66 that closely)
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-01-2002 07:55 PM
Naw, they are similar. The 69 is wider. ------------------
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jsracingbbf
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From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
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posted 11-01-2002 08:17 PM
I'd probably drill into the frame rail like Alex suggested. I had one exactly like Alex suggested made from flat bar and 2" angle. It fit perfect and the engine moved ZERO once it was installed. I painted it FORD blue and it looked decent. If you go straight off the head to the frame rail the bracket won't be at an angle. I'm like Kid I have no idea where the sway bar mount is. Good Luck SCOOP!
Jerry
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-01-2002 08:18 PM
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Fastymz
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posted 11-06-2002 01:54 AM
Ok tell what you think about this set up.
I used some 1/2"X3/4" alum angle I had.
I bolted one end to the head and the other to an L bracket from the sway bar mount.I cut a small piece out to go around the oil sender unit.
I only got a chance to rev it a few times.I noticed the motor dosen't on the driver side at all now.It stll trys to sit down on the passenger side.The bracket seems to flex alittle sould I redo it using steel instead of the Alum angle???THANKS
SCOOP ------------------
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Mustang Man
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From: Howe In USA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 11-06-2002 06:05 AM
I went to the hardware store and bought a big turnbuckle and made mine out of that.Only cost a couple of bucks....Worked great Later, Doug
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rockafellz
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posted 11-06-2002 10:07 AM
I know I should know this, but which way does an engine torque over? I always thought it was clockwise?!?  If it was clockwise wouldn't the torque strap be required on the passenger side??Thanks in advance. Erik ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-06-2002 10:29 AM
Engines torque left to right or counter clockwise facing the front. ------------------
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rockafellz
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posted 11-06-2002 10:41 AM
I'm a bit confused. Which way does the crankshaft rotate? Erik ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-06-2002 11:00 AM
Clockwise!
Where were you during physics class? 
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." ------------------
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rockafellz
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posted 11-06-2002 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Clockwise!
Where were you during physics class?
"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."
 I didn't take physics. I took computers. That's what I figured after I asked that question. Time to make a torque strap!! Hey Alex, when we pushed the car mildly hard last week, I noticed my #3 header pipe is now touching the shock tower. Think it could be the motor mount? Anyway, I could verify? Wasn't touching when we installed it. Erik ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 11-06-2002 11:12 AM
Do you guys think the small 1/2x3/4 angle Alum I used will hold ok?
Or should I do it in steel,or a turnbuckle?SCOOP ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-06-2002 11:27 AM
Probably Erik. Especially if they are the stock rubber units.
Yes Ron, I think that the aluminum is fine.
Look at MM's motor plates. They are aluminum. ------------------
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Fastymz
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posted 11-06-2002 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Probably Erik. Especially if they are the stock rubber units.
Yes Ron, I think that the aluminum is fine.
Look at MM's motor plates. They are aluminum.
Thank you What do you think about putting the bolt,nut through the stock mounts dose that really work.It was in a Mustangs plus catalog. SCOOP ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-06-2002 11:41 AM
Yes, it will help Ron. Also in case the mount ever breaks, you have a saftey mechanism. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 11-06-2002 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Yes, it will help Ron.
The way you type that just reminds me of a teacher thats been asked the same question millions of times. Thanks for the help.
SCOOP ------------------
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-06-2002 05:04 PM
Heh, heh, heh, uh......yup. ------------------
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Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fastymz
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posted 11-07-2002 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Heh, heh, heh, uh......yup.
Hang in there because alot of us are listening,and learning.
I'm teaching my son as I go.So your information is going to double good use. P.S. I drove the car hard today,and the strap held on just fine.I do notice alittle more vibration from the engine.
Car seems to pull harder now???
SCOOP
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14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8"3.40 TracLoc,Cragar SS,Black Suede. https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Fastymz.html
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V8 Thumper
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posted 11-07-2002 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
What do you think about putting the bolt,nut through the stock mounts dose that really work.It was in a Mustangs plus catalog.
I thru-bolted both my motor mounts, got the idea from M+. It's a slick little deal I too have torque strap plans, just need to get to it. If you ever wind up changing motor mounts (or if you've got the motor out) I'd recommend doing it. Simple, effective, and cheap Like Alex said, also a great safety mechanism
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