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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got an aluminum Tony Smith radiator in my '65 GT cooling my 333, and it definately does its job . Too well this morning, as a matter of fact. Ambient temp was about 55*F when I went for a Sunday morning cruise, the damn thing wouldn't get above 140-150* with a 5/8" restrictor in it. Is there a really good thermostat available? I'm not comfortable protecting my motor with a $6 part

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-27-2002 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Best thermostat for a deal like yours Todd, is a nice piece of cardboard that you can slide in front of the radiator when you need to for some more heat. Stick with the restrictors.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never even turned the fan on (toggle switched). I even pulled over to the side of the road to let the temp come up. Once I got driving again, the needle dove right back down. I'll come up with something to block off part of the radiator. Tough problem to have, hua? Thanks

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-27-2002 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I told ya them there Smith's Radiators were bitchin'!

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Alex Denysenko
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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I told ya them there Smith's Radiators were bitchin'!


...and you weren't kidding! I think you put it to me like this: "If you're building a $200 motor, then get a $200 radiator." Not that the cooling system cost should match the investment in the powerplant, but that really sunk in. Definately money well spent

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posted 10-27-2002 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Alex Denysenko
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Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-27-2002 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't mind my asking, what did it cost for that radiator?

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, you've got mail

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-27-2002 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got it, thanks!

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a good pic of Alex's on his Member's Photo page. I'm not 100% certain, but it looks like the race car's radiator is thinner than my street car's core. My fan is narrower than the one on Alex's, but not by much. It clears my water pump snout by about 3/4"

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, maybe 1/2" close enough. It fits

Stock mounting location, no mods necessary. It's the real deal

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-27-2002 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is thinner.
Lightest one he has ever made for a non Pro Stock. 12 lbs. with the shroud and the electric fan.

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Alex Denysenko
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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
It is thinner.
Lightest one he has ever made for a non Pro Stock. 12 lbs. with the shroud and the electric fan.


I'm not quite as concerned with weight as much as I am with efficiency, but what would you think mine weighs? Can't be a whole lot more than yours

Pro stock customers too? Wow

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rockafellz
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posted 10-27-2002 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Todd, what's a restrictor? Another word for thermostat? Or is that some new toy I haven't heard about

Also, could you give me contact info and your price of that radiator? [email protected]

Erik

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-27-2002 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A restrictor is a metering device that takes the place of a thermostat. Ok, it's just a plate with a hole in the middle of it

Thermostats can fail , restrictors cannot. By experimenting with different sized restrictors, you can 'tune' your cooling system for maximum efficiency. I got mine from a local speed shop, Moroso I think. They come in a kit with a few different sizes. You've got mail

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-27-2002 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My old one (Smith's) was about 20 lbs Todd.

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Alex Denysenko
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Professional Manwhore
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Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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rockafellz
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posted 10-28-2002 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
A restrictor is a metering device that takes the place of a thermostat. Ok, it's just a plate with a hole in the middle of it

Thermostats can fail , restrictors cannot. By experimenting with different sized restrictors, you can 'tune' your cooling system for maximum efficiency. I got mine from a local speed shop, Moroso I think. They come in a kit with a few different sizes. You've got mail


Interesting info about restrictors, thanks . I personally like thermostats since it will bring the engine water temps to 180* before it allows water circulation for cooling. I guess I just haven't seen enough fail to dislike them

Also, thanks for the info!!

Erik

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Fastymz
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posted 10-28-2002 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Todd email me too,about the cost of Rad,.

SCOOP

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V8 Thumper
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posted 10-28-2002 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Scoop, you've got mail

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65_302
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posted 10-28-2002 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_302   Click Here to Email 65_302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard of (never used)thermostats that fail in the "open" position not "closed" position. Are they any good?

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Fastymz
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posted 10-28-2002 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd thanks for the info.

Did you ever watch Saturday Night Live.In the 70's when they would do that skit,with the young nerd couple.His name was Todd,And Todd was always trying to get into her pants.I cant help but think about that skit ever time I type your name.

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