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steve'66
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posted 08-29-2002 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What ways have you seen for safely blocking the first two ambers? So you launch at the first sight of the bottom bulb.

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70coupe
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posted 08-29-2002 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tried everything to set my car up to launch on the first sign of the bottom bulb with no luck! I have to launch when the last light is bright or I'll red light. The only thing I haven't tried which is probably the easiest is to move forward a little more when staging. The key here would be to know exactly how far forward you have moved. Secondly I always just light up the bottom bulb this way if the guy beside you double bulbs your not stuck trying to stage a little deeper as the tree comes down because as soon as you stage they start the tree.

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posted 08-29-2002 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tried everything to set my car up to launch on the first sign of the bottom bulb with now luck! I have to launch when the last light is bright or I'll red light. The only thing I haven't tried which is probably the easiest is to move forward a little more when staging. The key here would be to know exactly how far forward you have moved. Secondly I always just light up the bottom bulb this way if the guy beside you double bulbs your not stuck trying to stage a little deeper as the tree comes down because as soon as you stage they start the tree.

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steve'66
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posted 08-29-2002 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I mean is to block the top two bulbs from sight after the car is shallow staged. So you can't anticipate the last yellow.

70coupe,

If your car is reacting that quick you can slow it down by lowering the front tire pressure, or running a bigger dia. front tire, and staging as shallow as possible. Also lowering your two step speed should add a little vehicle reaction time.

SteveW

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posted 08-29-2002 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You running in a no-e class, Steve?

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kid vishus
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posted 08-29-2002 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way one local racer has his set up, and he was helped setting it up by a super stock racer (Alex knows him, Don Duke), he has a metal flapper attached on a swivel on his upper roll bar mount. After he puts the stage lights on, he flips it down, and it blocks out the middle two yellow. I believe it took him a couplfe of tries before he got it set in the right spot. But at least it's an idea.

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posted 08-29-2002 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastbackRb   Click Here to Email fastbackRb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve I have seen a buddy take shoe polish and draw a circle where the bottom yellow is when he is staged and lookes thru the circle. He has 2 one for each lane and does not block his view while going down track. He gets a buddy to draw it on durning time trials or test and tune night.

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posted 08-29-2002 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tried this and it works OK in the day light. After dark I start to see the haze(reflection) of the top 2 bulbs as they come on, so I find myself still anticipating the bottom bulb. Has anyone else had this problem?

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steve'66
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posted 08-29-2002 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 65_289:
You running in a no-e class, Steve?

Yes, actually my daughter Melissa is.

We have one guy in CompRod that has the top 6"s of his windshield painted, so he looks under it to stage. But I don't think it's legal.

We could clip a card onto the visor for each lane, but like Ben said you see the lights coming anyway at night. I noticed this on the practice tree too. During daylight I cut .502 - .512 lights 12 times w/ a .506 average blocking the top two in the daylight, on the practice tree that is. When it was dark I found myself anticipating it and either fouled or was late.

Anyone tried tape on their visor? So you'd tilt your head up to stage or down to launch? The other factor is we run a blinded tree in Div 7 and it's hard to know when to get on the chip with the top two blinded, any ideas?

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posted 08-30-2002 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65_289   Click Here to Email 65_289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's weird. The No-E class at my track won't allow transbrakes, rev limiters, line locks, etc. Consider yourself lucky.

As far as blocking the lights at night, I think it will be a hard task, since the glow will cause her to anticipate.

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posted 08-30-2002 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 65_289:
That's weird. The No-E class at my track won't allow transbrakes, rev limiters, line locks, etc. Consider yourself lucky.

As far as blocking the lights at night, I think it will be a hard task, since the glow will cause her to anticipate.


Yeah, Division 7 is a little different. T-brakes and two steps are even allowed in the street class out here. No-E just means no delay box and no down track controllers (throttle stops or stutter boxes).

SteveW

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posted 08-30-2002 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've gotta hand it to you guys. Perfectionists!! I give it up to anyone who can cut anywhere between a .500 - .599. I had a chance to go down the track once when I was 16 years old and I cut a .683 light and I thought that was good.

What's the prize money involved on Wednesday nights SteveW?

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Fastymz
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posted 08-30-2002 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erik I'll 2nd that,I too cut a .67 something light.And I was thinking I red lighted for sure.I dont know how you guys do it.
I was leaveing when I saw the last amber light.
Steve how would it help to mnot see the other ambers lights too.Sorry but to me it seems like it would help to know when the last light is coming on?

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steve'66
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posted 08-30-2002 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eric,

Wednesday night is just for trophies, unless you run JackPot then it's a little over a hundred depending on how many entries there are. JackPot is all run though, delay boxes allowed. The w/e races can be $800-1000, and the finals can be $6000+.

Ron,

Not seeing the first two stops you from anticipating when the last yellow is coming and red lighting. Melissa's ride reacts (breaks the staging beams) probably about .15 seconds faster than yours so red-lights are very possible.
In her class, you gotta keep the lights between .500 and .530 or so to be good.

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steve'66
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posted 08-31-2002 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melissa is running the class that Kyle Seipel dominated before he won his first SS national event at Infineon (SearsPoint) recently. (his 6th National event title) But he'll probably be here (sportsman) for the div. 7 finals. He won the pro class (box) and 2nd in the sportsman (no E) class last year in the finals and took home about $9,000 racing two cars for Helmet City. It's pretty tough out there even w/o mentioning Ron Nickels. But hey we're having fun!

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