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Fastymz
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posted 06-18-2002 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im taking my 65 racing at a 8th mile track in August.I know thats some time off.But I dont get alot of time off.And money comes in slow and gose out fast.
I want to get my car as ready as I can.If you guys can think of any thing I sould look at, adjust, change with reason,or do.Please let me know.I got the rear end well set up.I've been testing it on the street(driving sideways is new for this car)
I'm going to try using my pops tires,he has some 26-12-15 tires for his t-bucket.I hope they will give me some better traction.I'm also trying to get some 90-10's too.And maybe traction bars.I'm going to get an extinguisher and mount it inside the car.
My car has never been through tech before.What do I need to pass.Do I need a helmet and if so will my older motor bike helmet do?

Ron

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Fastymz
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posted 06-18-2002 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And one more thing what do you think the car will run in the 1/8.I say it will be 8.80-9.20.
SteveW will give any one $20 that gets it right.
J/K about the $20.

Ron

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TomP
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posted 06-18-2002 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
assuming those huge tires will fit they may do more harm than good ... the gearing for an 1/8th mile should be as low as possible,so keep the tires under 26" tall .A short height soft compound tire will help, but actual drag slicks are best. The traction is a concern. If the "strip" isn't an actual dragstrip the traction may be pretty marginal for any tire.

The Motorbike helmet may be OK, NHRA rules call for a Snell 90 minimum rating for cars quicker than 8.59 (which is supposed to be 13.99 in a 1/4... but my 13 second Ranger runs more like 8.8's) Depending on whether they follow all those rules you might get away with an older one. If they ask how fast, don't admit to anything faster than 14's (1/4mile) and worry about needing one when you do run faster, bring it anyways.

As for adjusting things.... hmmm , maybe a bigger cam, better heads, etc...etc...

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-18-2002 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree on the short tires. Beg, borrow, or steal the shortest tire you can find.

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Fastymz
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posted 06-18-2002 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The tires I run now are 25.6" tall.They are 245-60-14.Maybe I'll just use those.
TomP I dont think I would run faster then 14.50 anyways in the 1/4.
I cant get heads cam,motor,or gears.Gotta go with what I got.And know it's not a real track it's an airport.Do I need to change my NAPA clear plastic fuel filter?
Also what about the extinguisher is one from like NAPA,KRAGEN ect will that work ok.And what rating on it B,C,.

Thanks
Ron

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-18-2002 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Filter is OK. You are not required to have a fire extinguisher.

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Fastymz
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posted 06-18-2002 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Filter is OK. You are not required to have a fire extinguisher.


The rule sheet they sent me says no glass,or plastic filters?

And I know I dont need a fire extinguisher,but I'd feel better to have in the car anyways.

Ron


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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 06-18-2002 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop, don't forget the radiator catch can and battery hold down.

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Fordwiser
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posted 06-18-2002 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basics are ussally double return spring on the carb,overflow bottle for the radiator, battery hold down in place, neutral saftey switch and no more then 12in. of rubber line for gas. Drivshaft loop isn't a bad idea either!
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Fastymz
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posted 06-19-2002 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fordwiser:
Basics are ussally double return spring on the carb,overflow bottle for the radiator, battery hold down in place, neutral saftey switch and no more then 12in. of rubber line for gas. Drivshaft loop isn't a bad idea either!
Roger

I got all that,but no drive shaft loop.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 06-19-2002 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fordwiser:
Drivshaft loop isn't a bad idea either!


IMHO, not a bad idea even for a 'serious' (ahem ) street-only car. Maybe not as critical with radials and a C4, but still. The Shelby repros are cheap and simply bolt to the rear seatbelt anchors, just either side of the driveshaft tunnel. No drilling/welding required

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Fastymz
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posted 06-19-2002 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:

IMHO, not a bad idea even for a 'serious' (ahem ) street-only car. Maybe not as critical with radials and a C4, but still. The Shelby repros are cheap and simply bolt to the rear seatbelt anchors, just either side of the driveshaft tunnel. No drilling/welding required

Where do I find that one?
Is there any issue's with the travel of the drive shaft with the loop in place.

"'serious'",now thats funny.

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Larry Jennings
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posted 06-19-2002 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry Jennings   Click Here to Email Larry Jennings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron. I sent an e mail through the M&M system but since I haven't heard back I now wonder if you got it. I have a set of SouthSide Lift bars you can have for free if you want them. Since Butch and I will be running Sac on Fri I can take them with me.

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Fastymz
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posted 06-20-2002 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry I didn't get your email.My email is here at my work.And one of the other guys may have got it and deleted it.I'll email you.

Ron

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 06-20-2002 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCOOP:
I relayed the story of a fire last night at my home track on another thread...butta, I'm with you. An extinguisher is cheap insurance. In fact, rather than use one of those $15 "dry chemical" A-B-C extinguishers from Wal-Mart, you might want to check out those from www.fireade2000.com I think for $20, the FireAde 2000 unit may be better on B-C fires and isn't nearly as hard on your equipment/car as the dry chemical can be (that dry stuff is coorosive as HE!!, especially if you get it wet!) if you ever need to use it.

I'd also 'second the motion' on getting a driveshaft loop. With a good launch or sticky tires, you really test your U-joints!

The filter rule sounds like a rule for your track only. I don't think the IHRA or NHRA rules say anything about them specifically, however, you may want to search each of their web sites for specifics on the subject.

Good Luck! Ryan

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Fastymz
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posted 06-20-2002 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ryan, thanks for the web site and info.What,where,and how do you guys mount your extinguisher.
And have any of used this product?

SCOOP

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 06-24-2002 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the center of the trans tunnel just behind the shifter...you just don't want to be digging under your seat for it when you need it!!

I've also seen them clamp-mounted on a section of a rollbar, if you have one.

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