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steve'66
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posted 05-24-2002 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The original contest was delayed by a slight set back when the main bearings went south on it's second run. The bearing manufacturer says inadequate lubrication. Anyway it's back in Melissa's car and ready to rumble (tomorrow) next first race on Memorial day. So it's still on, here are the specs again, only this time around the compression is bumped to 12.1-1.


Here are the vital statistics,
Rods - Eagle 6.250 4350 H-beam
Crank - Eagle 4340 forged knife edged
SRP pistons (flat tops)
Speed pro plasma moly rings
Cloyes DR chain
Comp Solid roller cam 35-772-8 286/292 248/254 @ .050 .610/621 lift lsa 110, c/l 106, installed at 105, overlap 69 degrees @ .015"
Heads - Edel Vic Jr's 2.05/1.60 valves
Rockers - Harland Sharp alum rollers
Springs - 195#s closed 350+ @ .600
Intake - Vic Jr. ported to heads
Fully balanced
Milodon pan & p/u
MSD billet Distributor
Race c-4 w/ 9" converter 4200 stall
spooled 9" rear
10" MT et drag slicks
4.5" MT et drag fronts
3000#s track weight
850 DP'r Holley
3.89 gears
12.1-1 compression
110 octane gas

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steve'66
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posted 05-24-2002 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the expert predictions so far, remember they are for what it'll run after 45 days of tuning etc.

Here are everyone's guesses in chronological order:

johnmustang 10.38
Buster 10.39
Larry Jennings 10.41
FastTymz 10.45
Butch Jennings 10.46
unklshu 10.47
fordwiser 10.48
I65stang 10.50
71Resto 10.53
RPM289 10.55
Stang106 10.58
67coupster 10.60
KidViscous 10.65
CapriMan 10.67
MDF99 10.69
N2OMike 10.74
jsracingbbf 10.77
Melissa66 10.79 (disqualified)
RobsRM 10.80
Chips67 10.83
ClevStyle 10.84
Fonzi007 10.85
BlueStreek 10.86
DaveGibson 10.89
MoneyMaker 10.90
Stewart 10.96
JustJim 10.99
jkilroy 11.10
TomP 11.11

There's still time to add a guess or change your guess up until the time I post the first et. We'll need 45 days after the first et post before we decide what it'll run "dialed in" Although it'll probably run better next winter when the D/A improves.


I've been saving my lunch money and just about have enough saved to cover the payoff now. Soo don't worry about my financial security.

SteveW

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capri man
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posted 05-24-2002 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10.67

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Larry Jennings
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posted 05-24-2002 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry Jennings   Click Here to Email Larry Jennings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Change mine to 10.41 and if I win put the money into a set of B1 heads for the Dart LOL!

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clevelandstyle
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posted 05-24-2002 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should I give you my address now, or wait 'till after I win?

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RobsRestoMod
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posted 05-24-2002 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RobsRestoMod   Click Here to Email RobsRestoMod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best guess is 10.80, I'll take cash,check or paypal.

Rob

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Buster
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posted 05-24-2002 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the displacement?

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steve'66
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posted 05-25-2002 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Buster:
What is the displacement?

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steve'66
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posted 05-25-2002 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Buster:
What is the displacement?

Buster,

It's a 408W 4.0" stroke 4.030 bore.


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Moneymaker
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posted 05-25-2002 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10.90 at best at Sacramento.

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rockafellz
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posted 05-25-2002 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buster,

351w stroked 408w. Right Steve?

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TomP
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posted 05-25-2002 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
45 days? hmmm... we have covered the spectrum from 10.30's to 11.10 pretty fully , i think unless we gotta split the prize when two guessers are .03 off , i am gonna guess 11.11 and cover myself in case nobody guesses a higher number... i think it could go 10.50's, but it's not as easy as that, 11.1 within 45 days, 10.5 soon after

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Stewart
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posted 05-25-2002 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stewart   Click Here to Email Stewart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Riding on Alex's coat tails, I'll guess 10.96.

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Buster
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posted 05-25-2002 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10.39 and I think it would be faster with more cam & carb.....

I have a friend that was running a 373W stroker, with a C4. Best time was a 9.98.

It was a white 86 GT with the name Stalker on the door. I think the weight was a little less though.

The driver wasn't the tuner. The engine tuner was one of the best that I personaly know, that used to be a funny car driver in the 70's.

It also had a high dollar 950 BG carb. The intake was port matched. They sent the intake to Champion to get it ported and the car slowed. Not one of the runners were the same, so they replace it.

The car would run 10.00's all day long.

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steve'66
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posted 05-25-2002 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rob,
It'll be cash.

Ben,
Wait

Larry,
Tha Dart's already got Edel RPM heads. Good enough for now, just gotta get ride of that lime green paint.

MM,
How about at Sears Point's new track?

Erik,
Yep

TomP,
Yeah I agree.

Buster,
Yes sir a bigger cam and springs is next. But it's my 19 year old daughter's car and we have slowly progressed from an 18 second ride to the 11's so far. The car felt slow to her the last time out so that's my signal to pump things up a bit. Eventually she wants to drive a RED, but I tell her she'd better get a good job after college or marry right.


Everyone,

I fired the new motor up this afternoon. Lit on the first crank, 60#s of oil pressure idling/65#s at 3000rpm warm with 10-40 dino oil. Gotta tune it and set the valve lash tomorrow and put some road miles on it. First race on Monday Memorial day at SearsPoint. I'll post the first numbers and then the predictions will be cast in stone. The first numbers will be break-in runs with the timing laid back and the carb "out of the box" and shifting at only 6200 etc. Thanks for playing!

SteveW

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67Coupster
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posted 05-26-2002 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67Coupster   Click Here to Email 67Coupster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, looking forward to hearing about the progress!!!! Good luck!

What was up with the inadequate lubrication? Did the engine builder have any comments?

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Buster
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posted 05-26-2002 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes, I wish I had a ride like that at 19.....

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-26-2002 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, Sears Robuck is cool.

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Fastymz
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posted 05-26-2002 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Buster:
Yikes, I wish I had a ride like that at 19.....

Heck at 37 I wish I had a ride like that.
Thats one cool car Steve.If Melissa,ever gets tired of it let me know.I come down and live with you,and drive it.

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84stang
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posted 05-27-2002 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 84stang   Click Here to Email 84stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
my 19 year old daughter's car

Is she single?


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steve'66
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posted 05-27-2002 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK The first results in!!

Remember with nothing tuned yet and 2 1/2 exhaust.

It ran,

60' 1.539
330' 4.458
1/8mi 6.939 @98.37
1000 9.112
1/4 10.978 @ 119.59

A slower 60' run later hit 121 mph. This thing's got a bunch left in it's tank.

Oh by the way, she won the first round and lost the second in a stripe war. It was a fun day!

Good luck,


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steve'66
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posted 05-27-2002 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 84stang:
Is she single?


Yeah,

But can you afford her?

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steve'66
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posted 05-27-2002 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW,

Melissa said it was a blast to drive! Really slammed her back into the seat. I said "just wait, it's gonna get faster"


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kid vishus
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posted 05-27-2002 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very

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Butch Jennings
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posted 05-27-2002 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Butch Jennings   Click Here to Email Butch Jennings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

That's good news, I'll stay with my 10.46 guess....I think you can find 5 tenths in a month and a half

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steve'66
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posted 05-27-2002 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Butch,

Me too! We coulda run uncorked today, but didn't. That alone will be worth 2 or 3 tenths maybe more if it's a bottle neck. Thanks for your help!

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kid vishus
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posted 05-27-2002 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
lost the second in a stripe war.

That part does suck, and I know how she feels. I lost the run off saturday night by .001, and lost the second round sunday on my "A" card by .002.

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posted 05-27-2002 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:
That part does suck, and I know how she feels. I lost the run off saturday night by .001, and lost the second round sunday on my "A" card by .002.

Yeah Rob,

She had the guy but thought she might break out and lifted. He was dialed 11.11 and she was dialed 11.00 and she ran a 11.20 @ 115 mph, he ran 11.29 something. He won by a .005 mov. She'll get it and she's a fast learner! She's just not used to the new car like she was with the 351 version. But she's only got 4 runs on it so far... These guys are a lot more competition than HS. This is the "no box class" here in div 7, 10.0 - 15.99. The box class is "pro et" here.

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posted 05-27-2002 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Yeah Rob,

She had the guy but thought she might break out and lifted. He was dialed 11.11 and she was dialed 11.00 and she ran a 11.20 @ 115 mph, he ran 11.29 something. He won by a .005 mov. She'll get it and she's a fast learner! She's just not used to the new car like she was with the 351 version. But she's only got 4 runs on it so far... These guys are a lot more competition than HS. This is the "no box class" here in div 7, 10.0 - 15.99. The box class is "pro et" here.

SteveW


edit, p.s. when we left, Kiel Stiepel was still in it with his Helmet City Austin Healy. My dream is for Missy to trailer Kiel!
Nothing against Kiel, but he's the best and you gotta have something to shoot for.

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posted 05-27-2002 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Steve,

We couldn't make it out today... had family from out of state and was a little busy. Are you guys planning on heading out on Wednesday?

Congrats on breaking into the 10s. Can't wait to see it run!!

Hey, at Sears on Wednesday drags, if I write "no time" on my window, will they NOT post my time on the board for everyone to see? I've heard of people doing this at other tracks...

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posted 05-27-2002 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erik,

That won't work at Sears Point for Wednesday night drags. Sorry,

I dunno if we'll make this Weds night or not, gotta check the car over real good first.

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Very cool Steve! Damn, you beat me (lol, I still have a ways to go, need to find some time) .

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posted 05-28-2002 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I65Stang:
Very cool Steve! Damn, you beat me (lol, I still have a ways to go, need to find some time) .


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quote:
Originally posted by I65Stang:
Very cool Steve! Damn, you beat me (lol, I still have a ways to go, need to find some time) .


Nanernanernaner, LOL I told you! What did we bet anyway?

We're all smiles here. If you need help just let me know.


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Steve,she must have had a blast with the new car.I'm sticking to my 10.45 and thanks Butch just noticed your 10.46.
I hope I can meet up with you guys again this summer.I'd love to see your cars run.

SCOOP

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posted 05-28-2002 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats Steve!

Hey Erik... why would you not want people to see your ET ?

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posted 05-28-2002 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Erik,

Why not? Are you a street racer?

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Yeah Erik,

Why not?
SteveW



Good question. And actually, I have never heard of that being done.

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quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:

Good question. And actually, I have never heard of that being done.

They allow that at Sacramento Raceway on T&T so the street racer's don't tip people off to what their car will run.

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Oh,

Did I mention that this was with a Holley red pump in the rear, 3/8" fuel line and a stock mechanical pump at the engine? Melissa said it pulled hard through the traps and the time slip shows that to be the truth, so I'm not gonna upgrade the fuel system yet.

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posted 05-29-2002 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Guys,

No, i'm not a street racer, seriously. I just don't wanna show an embarassing run . I know there are a lot of $hit talkers in the scene (around my area) and I know that would push me to spend way more money than I expect. As much as possible i'm trying to do this with my dad for FUN!

SteveW, you know i'm still learning and honestly, i'd just like to build something that will last. Hearing these stories about breaking at the track makes me not want to even run, to be honest. No offense to all you guys, I know it happens. I guess i'm not used to seeing internal engine parts break. I also don't wanna pour my paychecks into all this as I plan to tie the knot and buy a house all within the next year and a half.

Erik

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posted 05-29-2002 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eric,

I understand, so I'd suggest you run it on a Friday Night at Sac. Raceway where no one will know you.

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The second time out the conditions were very hot and slippery. 11.30's were the best, next w/e we'll run it uncorked and jetted up a bit. It was a little lean (three grey threads on the plugs) with it corked and with little 2 1/2" pipes. The best so far was the first outing 10.978, but I have a weird feeling we'll be able to better that.

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