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Fastymz
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posted 02-27-2002 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I've got the axels off my pops 9" rear on his 23T bucket project.I cant seem to get the center section off.Is there any tricks or tips to getting this off.I wacked it a few times and still nothing.
I at a lost here please help my pops is losing faith in me.
Thanks for your help.

SCOOP

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John Holloway
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posted 02-27-2002 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Holloway   Click Here to Email John Holloway     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCOOP,If the center section has never been removed before the factory seals would be around each stud,there are copper and you need a screw driver and a hammer to remove them

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Bob Hopkins
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posted 02-27-2002 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Hopkins   Click Here to Email Bob Hopkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have the axles out and allthe nuts off the studs the center cection is glued in place "gently" slide a thin chisel/screwdriver/puddyknife between center and housing brakr glue/sealer's bond.some times it will hang up on studs too and need to be persuided

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-27-2002 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I put a piece of wood on a jack, put it under pinion support and give it a little pump and it pops the center section off the housing. Then I move the jack and use it to lower the center section safely from under the car.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-27-2002 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or.......get a BFH!

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Fastymz
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posted 02-27-2002 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Or.......get a BFH!


YES we think alike.

Ok guys I tried the jack and it jacked the ****ing frame off the ground.

I got most of the brass washers loose not all the way off.I'll go back and remove them all.

I was afraid of chipping it or cracking the housing or the pig with the screwdriver.

So you guys are saying remove all the brass washers and then use a thin puddy knife and pry it off.
I was going to tie a tow rope to the pig and then to my pumper and floor,but Iw as worried about losing my bumper.

Thanks SCOOP


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Moneymaker
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posted 02-27-2002 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whack the sh*t out of it on the yoke with a BFH and it will come loose.

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F551
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posted 02-27-2002 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F551   Click Here to Email F551     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BFH always wins!!!!

For next time drill and tap two "jacking bolt holes (about 5/16")into the flange.
Then you can just screw a couple of bolts in and gently break the sealant.

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kid vishus
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posted 02-28-2002 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The center section on my racecar got "crooked" on the studs and was thoroughly stuck the last time I tried ot remove it. Me being the "genius" I tend to digress into when "not happy" (see pi$$ed off) decided to pry it off with a big screwdriver and a small pry bar. The pry bar slipped, and whacked me right on the nose bending the he!! out of my glasses. I took my glasses off, looked at them, put 'em back on and went back to prying on it madder than before. Well, it slipped again, smacking me on the nose/glasses even harder. I took my glasses off to assess the damamge done to them, and just as I looked down to see how badly they were bent, the blood ran off my nose onto the floor. I really figured I had broke it. I didnt break it, but I did have a pretty nasty cut right on the side/bridge of my nose. (and it bled like he!!) I then decided to straighten it out un the studs with a good kick, luckily that worked. I dont think my nose could've taken another smakc again at that time.

What this has to do with yours being stuck, I have no idea, but it seemed like as good as place as any to tell this story

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steve'66
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posted 02-28-2002 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KV,

I can relate to that!


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1trickpony
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posted 02-28-2002 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1trickpony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heheh
I can relate to that as well. I have a nice scar on the bridge of my nose right smack between the eyes from a similiar prying experience. Luckily I was dead center and not off to a side or I would be missing an eye.

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Fastymz
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posted 02-28-2002 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kid thats one funny story.
Some how it did not help me at all.
Luckly the rear is in the a frame only no body on it now.So it's easy to get to,I was worried about how hard you can hit it with out causing damage to it.
I too have dropped many things on my head,maybe thats why I'm the only one that likes my scoop.

SCOOP

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-28-2002 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

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TomP
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posted 02-28-2002 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KV

I have done that too! Working under a car with ehaust in the way so the pry bar would only reach from below, prying with all my might when the thing nailed me in the mouth, breaking a tooth and splitting my lip... looked like a horror movie!

Did almost the same thing again while tightening a flywheel, sockets start with a bit of a taper and the ARP bolts have a very shallow head... almost got 75lbs/ft on one when it slips off and POW in the jaw again... thought i broke my damn head in two!

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ccode67
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posted 02-28-2002 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a good one for you, I was removing the nuts from the rear end u-bolts, a little rust on the threads, extra long ratchet and I was really cranking on it, socket slipped off, caught my thumb between the spring and ratchet while pulling toward myself, had a "dent" in my thumbnail for 6 months, hurt like crazy for a couple of weeks too.

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Greg Pettit
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posted 03-01-2002 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greg Pettit   Click Here to Email Greg Pettit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a good one, too...

Working on the wife's '91 T-bird (O/D band replace). Loosening the trans to engine bolts, when the socket exploded. Was pulling that breaker bar for all I was worth, and the car was on 2 ft jackstands. Well, the hole I stuck my hand into was a little small to pull out a clenched fist wrapped around a wrench, but that didn't stop me. Hurt like hell, so much I was afraid to look at my hand. Looked at the exhaust manifold studs, and there was a 3 inch by 1/2 inch long piece of meat with hair still on it. I'll be damned if I wasn't missing an identical piece of hide from the back of my right hand. I won't even mention damage done to 4 knuckles at the same time.

Hurts just thinking about it.

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SundanceKid
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posted 03-01-2002 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scoop, Mine was a pain to get off too, you just need to get one side broke loose to break the seal. Don't try to remove the carrier strait out at first, your gonna have to pry it cockeied to shear the seal first then remove the carrier rocking back and forth over the stud threads.

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SundanceKid
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posted 03-01-2002 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SundanceKid   Click Here to Email SundanceKid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You also might want to try combining Steves trick (jack under carrier/yoke) and Alexes trick (BFG) Lift it with the jack and tap it from the side with the BFG.

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stang106
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posted 03-01-2002 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew a guy named Red who had his truck on his front lawn, and was in the process of changing a U-joint. He was laying on the grass with his head resting on the rearend. when he got the u-bolts out and pulled the driveshaft forward, the truck settled forward in the grass and the movement broke his neck... It was hours before anyone thought that something was wrong and check on him, and by that time he was dead. Now the wacky part of the story- I worked with his next door neighbor Bob and apparently this guy had a penile extension of some sort and had flashed his neighbor's daughter. So when Bob came to work the day after Red died, Bob was all smiles like he had won the lottery!
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