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Dave_C
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posted 02-22-2002 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From time to time the subject of aluminum radiators for early Mustangs comes up. A few weeks back I bought one and installed it.

It's a 26" X 9" unit from Afco. Just about the same as the Griffin and Summitt brand universals. Made some brackets and also had to do a little cutting on the core support as the stock radiator for my 69 was only 24" wide. The 22'X 19" would be perfect for a 65-66. For hoses I used a top hose for an early Bronco (70-75). The bottom hose is an Auto Zone # 103. Not sure of the application. I dug through the hoses until I found one. A stock Mustang lower hose was not long enough. Tried a longer one, same shape, but it wanted to kink because the lower radiator outlet points up at ~30 The # 103 hose is L shaped, but the end of one leg is angled to meet the radiator outlet.

Anyways, I thought the install turned out pretty good and it cools better than 3 core copper brass radiator I had in it.

Some pics of the install are on this page I put up. (also wanted to try my new digital camera)
http://home.bellsouth.net/personalpages/scripts/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=26404&ck=&ver=3.0

Comments?

Later,

David Cole

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-23-2002 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clean install for a universal deal Dave. We'll see how it performs. One important item that maybe you could mention is price? How much was that puppy and how long did it take you to do the install? (Not counting the Autozone trips and research )

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Dave_C
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posted 02-23-2002 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Alex.

I paid $150 for the Afco radiator, new in box, out the door at a trade show/sale a few weeks ago. Mostly round track stuff there. Afco sells that same radiator for $179 on their site:
http://www.dragraceafco.com/
Mine is part # 80103N

I removed the old radiator and then spent a day or so deciding how to mount it. Once decided I spent about 30 minutes on the core support with a sawzall and utility cut-off tool. I cut the sides of the core support that stick out towards the engine back to even with the top lip. Gave me a square hole to work with. Them I spent maybe a couple of hours on the rest of the mounting. The top brackets were two 1"X 6"X 1/8" mending plates from a hardware store. Bent them into an L shape using my vice and 4 lb hammer. Paid $1.50 for the pair. The bottom is held in place by two small L brackets made from scraps. You can see these in the pic at the bottom, painted black. 3"X2" by 1/8"? The bottom ones hold the weight, the top just keep it from falling over.

While I was at it I also took some scrap aluminum C channel and another L bracket and made a good mount for my trans cooler. It is solid and sits abouit 5" from radiator. Much better than the zip ties I used to have holdin it in.

Went to the track for Test n tune today and it cooled well. Temp was in the mid 50's. Normally temp after a run and trip up return road (stage at 140) would be 175 on a cool day. Today it was showing 162-163 and cooled down quicker after the run. Will really test it this summer when racing temps are in the 90's and after run temp is 190.

Later,

David Cole

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Fastymz
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posted 02-24-2002 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dave,for the info.
Do you think this would be good rad,on the street too.Thats less then I paid for my 3row.How do I get the inlet and outlet on the same side.


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Dave_C
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posted 02-24-2002 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see why it wouldn't work well on the street. But the 26" wide X 19" tall might be a little wide for a 65 Mustang. They make a 22" wide X 19" tall that would be a good fit.

All the universal radiators have the outlets, top and bottom on opposite sides. Thats why I went with the Chevy style. It has the bottom outlet on the passenger side to match the 65-69 Mustang. The top being moved to the driver;s side was no big deal. That's why I used a top hose for a 70-75 early Bronco. These came from Ford with the top hose on the driver's side. It was an easly fit. I think I trimmed about 2" off one end of the Bronco hose and was perfect. It would fit your car also.

BTW, I have seen some radiators with the outlets on the same side, but they are not listed as "universal" They cost ~$350. I would rather spend the $7 on the Bronco hose.

There are several more pics of the radiator on this page:
http://home.bellsouth.net/personalpages/scripts /community.dll?ep=331&folderid=11703&groupid=26404&folderview=thumbs&ck=&ver=3.0

Take another look. If you have any more questions or need a pic from another angle just ask. With the new digital camera I can have pics online in minutes.

Edit: I went out and took some more pics, got some pics of the lower hose also:
the new pics are here:
http://home.bellsouth.net/personalpages/scripts/community.dll?ep=331&groupid=26404&folderid=11900&folderview=thumbs&ck=&ver=3.0

Later,

David Cole

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Fastymz
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posted 02-24-2002 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dave.
I always enjoy looking at your car.Nice truck too.


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posted 02-24-2002 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dave_C
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posted 02-24-2002 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys. Glad I bought it. Can't think of any other truck I would rather have. Really happy with the truck so far. Good mileage, comfortable and can pull anything I hook to. If the truck didn't have mirrors I wouldn't know trailer was behind me.

Later,

David Cole

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