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Topic: Large tube 351W header offer!
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Dr. Who
Gearhead Posts: 122
From: Redwood City, Ca.
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 12-11-2001 11:47 PM
   
Tom at Dawson Racing Headers says he'd make a large primary header for big inch Windsors in early Mustangs if someone in the SoCal area will use their car as the mockup. If there's enough interest to make a bulk order so he can do a run we'd get a buy too! His e mail is [email protected] and his page is www.dawsonracingheaders.com
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 551
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 12-12-2001 09:53 AM
Hooker already makes a 1 3/4" 351W swap header for 65-70 mustangs. It's part #6208You can go to www.holley.com and click your way to the Hooker site to get more information. What I would like to see is a 1 3/4" header for a 289-302... Seems easy enough, but nobody I know of makes it.  Oh Well... ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 484
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 12-12-2001 11:00 AM
Thats what we need. 302-347W large tube headers.. If he can make a buck or 2 maybe he should be willing mock them up..Hey mike, why don't you market them.. I need 2 sets right now.. n2o Performance Parts 
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 9999
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-12-2001 12:15 PM
Two things.
1) Tubular Automotive makes not only a 1 3/4 header for 289-302 8.2 deck motors, but also a 1 7/8 header.
2) Steve W. would be the PERFECT candidate for the mock up of either the 289 or the 351W using Melissa's car.  ------------------
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Butch Jennings
Gearhead Posts: 305
From: California
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 12-12-2001 03:01 PM
I think Larry's talking about a 1 7/8" or 2" header Mike. Alex, Tubular Automotive might as well not exist and far as Larry and I are concerned....neither of us will ever spend a dime with them. ------------------
Butch
460 powered 1967 Comet Cyclone
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 9999
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-12-2001 03:08 PM
Yeah Butch, I know. Their customer service really SUCKS! ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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I65Stang
Moderator Posts: 4429
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 12-12-2001 03:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
2) Steve W. would be the PERFECT candidate for the mock up of either the 289 or the 351W using Melissa's car.
Steve's up here in the normal part of the state Alex (500+ miles away ) .
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Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
1976 Silverline Comoro 18' trihull ski boat, 188 hp 302 I/O, another toy
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 551
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 12-12-2001 03:31 PM
There's a guy by the name of Gary Moore, who's from Ohio. He has a 65 with a 8.2" engine, fogger nitrous system, and custom 1 7/8" headers. Those are TIGHT! He expained how they had to be installed, and it sounded like a huge ordeal. The car isn't a lightweight, is street driven (raced) on rare occasions, and does really well. It's set up with a full interior, DANA 60, and ladder bars... and runs low 9's. And no, it's not tubbed. It's beautiful black with white interior. He runs a 28x10.5 slick. Anyone else know this guy? He's a wildman. Oh yea, it's power flows through a pro-shifted Toploader. The first time I saw him (years ago) the car had two cheater plates with the largest jets stacked on top of each other, on a Mexican block... and the rev-limiter had an 8600rpm chip. His last pass was a low 11, much of which was run with plenty of dents in the oil pan... from the inside. His latest engine (last I saw him) was built with a Motorsport block and had the 1 7/8" headers. He had also added coil-overs to the rear end. I believe he had crashed it, and then rebuilt the car. An interesting guy, with some TIGHT headers! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 9999
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-12-2001 04:08 PM
Mike, I have headers on MM that step to 1 7/8. They are also very tight but fit like a glove. They are completly modular and install one tube at a time into a 3.5 inch merge style collector. They were built by KromerKraft in Ohio and I believe that he has a master pattern to build them for over the counter sale now. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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Dr. Who
Gearhead Posts: 122
From: Redwood City, Ca.
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 12-12-2001 04:13 PM
Alex! I thought Tubular Automotive might have a problem with my zip code so I asked 4 other people to order the headers from him and then send them on to me if he'd fill an order, we asked for the header to fit 4 different cars all with either big cubes, nitrous or blower to need a big header, 68 convert, 67 coupe, 68 fastback and 68 coupe, the orders came in from Mo. Nv. NY. and Fla. and he "still" won't send them, or return calls. We have a client's car all done except for tubes and I need to get it finished. Bottom line here is "Tubular Automotive" does "Not" offer a large tube 351W header and to send anyone to him will leave them with a wait and without parts. What Tubular Automotive need is 10 years without orders so he can figure it out. If there are other people that need this pipe Dawson will make them and if there are no others I'll have a set of customs made for huge loot and explain to the client that I was a fool for basing the estimate on an available part from Tubular Automotive.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 3277
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-12-2001 05:16 PM
Larry,After you pay for the tooling and R&D Melissa's pair of headers should be reasonably priced, right?  The '66 is up on jack stands now, awaiting me to finish the tranny install. Waiting for the cooler, then braided lines to and from it, then wrap the blanket around it and bolt up the crossmember. Then it has to go in for its rollbar, then we can test it with the same 351w power for now. Getting it to SoCal for header fitment ain't gonna happen for a while. Let me know how it goes though, we'll probably use the 1 3/4" Hookers with the 408w. SteveW
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Just Jim
Gearhead Posts: 356
From: So Cal
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 12-12-2001 07:26 PM
Hey Steve, Tim says you live in the normal part of the state. I didn't think anywhere in California was normal.I might let them use my Falcon as a mock-up but they are looking for a Mustang. I still have the 1 3/4 Hooker 6208's waiting to be installed,just have to find the time. ------------------
"Just Falcon Around"
1962 Falcon 351W
1958 Morris Minor 289
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Dr. Who
Gearhead Posts: 122
From: Redwood City, Ca.
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 12-12-2001 09:16 PM
Hey Jim I did include Falcon (thinking of you) in my original conversation with Tom at Dawson Racing Headers and he'd try to make a good set of tubes for them too. I don't think a 2" is realistic though. Sometimes a larger tube in a restricted chassis ends up flowing less because of how it turns at the all important port outlet. The car I'm working with (68 Cougar) has room for 2 1/2 primary tube cause the bay is made wide for the FE.
Steve if I gotta spend the big bucks to tool them up I'll keep the rights and sell the "Jennings" header by whomever makes them for me LOL![This message has been edited by Dr. Who (edited 12-12-2001).]
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 9999
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-13-2001 01:35 PM
Hey Doc, I bought a set of larger tubes from Tubular Automotive last year. It took 4 weeks to get them, but nevertheless we did receive them and they are on a 67 Mustang with a 351/408W. I don't know what their problem is and why they won't sell you a set but they do OFFER big tube 351W headers. Wheather or not they are shipping them these days I cannot attest to at this moment but If I can help anyone in any way I would be happy to. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 3277
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-13-2001 01:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Just Jim:
Hey Steve, Tim says you live in the normal part of the state.
Jim, Yeah what does he know, he's too young to remember "normal". SteveW
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Dr. Who
Gearhead Posts: 122
From: Redwood City, Ca.
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 12-13-2001 03:00 PM
Thanks for the offer Alex. Right now I have a deal working and should get a set made soon. I'll come cryin to you if this deal falls apart . Again thanks.
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