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steve'66
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posted 11-26-2001 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the best way to keep a c-4 w/ 8" convertor cool? Which cooler, and where do you guys mount them? Do you use the radiator's cooler too, or skip it? Can I mount a electric fanned cooler somewhere away from the radiator? (where?) Thanks in advance for the tips!

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Fastymz
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posted 11-26-2001 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I talked to a guy from Derrale{spelling}.They said that you can use a cooler with a built in fan and skip the rad, and mount it any where.The fans eoungh to cool the trans,without alot of air flow over it.Hope this helps some what.

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chips67
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posted 11-26-2001 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chips67   Click Here to Email chips67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have some experience with trans coolers.....mount it in front or the radiator obviously for the best performance. also, you can run it in series with your radiator if your radiator provives the current trans cooler (usually stock radiators do). always use a fan with a shroud or a nice puller electric fan behind your radiator....a finned, or high capacity trans oil pan helps too. skip the little fan for the trans cooler only idea, its redundant if your current cooling fan is adequate. do you know what i mean by "in series" with your radiator?

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67 coupe, 650dp and rpm intake on 5.0 with afr 165 heads, 4 speed, 4.11's.....best so far is [email protected] in 1/8 mile with 1.79 60ft. time.

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steve'66
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posted 11-27-2001 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chip,

Yep I do, the current radiator is a 4 core copper/brass with a puller electric fan. Not sure if it's gonna be enough for the 408 550hp motor to come. So, you suggest the biggest cooler I can fit in front of the radiator + the radiator's cooling?

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chips67
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posted 11-27-2001 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chips67   Click Here to Email chips67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yep, and have the lines going to the cooler come after the radiator. in other words, from the trans, to the radiator, then to the cooler, then back to the trans. higher capacity finned aluminum trans pan too.

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67 coupe, 650dp and rpm intake on 5.0 with afr 165 heads, 4 speed, 4.11's.....best so far is [email protected] in 1/8 mile with 1.79 60ft. time.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-27-2001 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NO, no, no,! Do not mount the clooer in front of the radiator with that big a$$ 408 motor. Why would you want to keep cool air away from the radiator? Get a 10K lb cooler and mount it flat off the floor or flat under the valance. Tuck it up nice and neat. This way the cooler gets it's own air and you do not take any away fron the radiator. Most guys/gals are not even using coolers anymore, but I highly recomend one with a C-4. I use a huge one from Perma Cool with the AN fittings already on.

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chips67
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posted 11-27-2001 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chips67   Click Here to Email chips67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alex, how is any air gonna flow through the cooler fins if the cooler is mounted flat?

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67 coupe, 650dp and rpm intake on 5.0 with afr 165 heads, 4 speed, 4.11's.....best so far is [email protected] in 1/8 mile with 1.79 60ft. time.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-27-2001 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust me. It will get plenty of air. The cooler's job is to dissipate heat via it's fins. The air is just a bonus.

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steve'66
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posted 11-28-2001 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about using a B&M super cooler that's 11 X 8 X 1.5" with an electric fan? Hell I could mount it in the old battery location!?! I'll run braided s/s lines, but for safety I'd rather run it behind the rear axle. Any thoughts on rear locations?

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mellowyellow
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posted 11-28-2001 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the behind the valance idea. Alex: Would you bypass the radiator?

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-28-2001 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, that is a good piece. Pete, I NEVER use a factory radiator cooler in conjunction with an aftermarket unit. Kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it? No worry of ever contaminating the atf and keeps the engine and trans cooler.

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mellowyellow
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posted 11-28-2001 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right!! I don't know what I was thinking of. Duh! Had to draw myself a pic! Sr. moment! LOL!

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chips67
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posted 11-29-2001 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chips67   Click Here to Email chips67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SEE, THATS WHY IM A STICKMAN. never ever worry about contaminating the 90w, no guessing which converter to run, no changing clutches every year.....who cares if its costing me 4 tenths, it looks cool.

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67 coupe, 650dp and rpm intake on 5.0 with afr 165 heads, 4 speed, 4.11's.....best so far is [email protected]6.19 in 1/8 mile with 1.79 60ft. time.

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