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69 Sportsroof
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posted 03-18-2003 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a line on a set of Headman 88650 headers. The are for a 351 W. Is there any reason these will not fit the 302 in my 69?

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-18-2003 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They'll hang an inch lower because of the deck height difference, that may not be a problem or it could be a big problem.

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 03-18-2003 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Steve. They are shorty headers so they shouldn't hang low at all. I was mainly worried about my clutch linkage.

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posted 03-18-2003 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep in mind that they'll have to clear your shock towers, motor mounts, and crossmember, too.

In times like this I consider that if they would fit the 302 in addition to the 351W, the manufacturer would have saved a lot of packaging, tooling, storage, and other costs and have a single part number for both application. There's probably something there that will bite you in the butt.

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 03-18-2003 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point(s).

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ccode67
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posted 03-18-2003 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You better check about the clutch linkage, I don't think shorty headers are made for manual tranny cars.

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 03-18-2003 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccode67:
You better check about the clutch linkage, I don't think shorty headers are made for manual tranny cars.


Good point, but all I've been able to find so far is that they wont fit with column shift manuals. Seems like a shift linkage rather than a clutch linkage problem. What I'm concerned about now are the things Steve mentioned.

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ekbeanctr
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posted 03-18-2003 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
69 Sportsroof,
If you saw those on ebay and they are listed by Ekbeanctr2, that's me. If you decide to bid on them I will throw in the frt for free. BUT, you might want to try contacting Hedman at 562-921-0404 and ask them if they would fit. I don't want to sell them to you if they won't work. Ernie

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 03-18-2003 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are the ones. I'll give them a call and thanks for the offer.

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horseballz
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posted 03-19-2003 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for horseballz   Click Here to Email horseballz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
69 Sportsroof (David I Think?)
Click Here https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/002730.html
These may be just what you're looking for.
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69 Sportsroof
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posted 03-19-2003 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Gene. Yep. David it is. I saw that but I'm looking for short headers. Plus, I hardly ever buy anything new..... Yeah, I know, I'm a cheapskate...

[This message has been edited by 69 Sportsroof (edited 03-19-2003).]

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RonnieT
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posted 03-19-2003 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RonnieT   Click Here to Email RonnieT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the headers I have on my 351W in the 69 MACH1. I don't think they would work on a 302, i think they would hit on top of the motor mounts.

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RonnieT
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posted 03-19-2003 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RonnieT   Click Here to Email RonnieT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I have to take that last statement back. I looked on the hedman web site and they list the same long style headers for a 302 and a 351, so they should fit with no problems.

http://www.hedman.com/pages/hedmanmain.html

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horseballz
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posted 03-19-2003 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for horseballz   Click Here to Email horseballz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ronnie,
These are clones of Hooker Super Comp, not Hedman. Also, Alex says they are for 289/302.
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Mpcoluv
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posted 03-20-2003 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
Thanks Gene. Yep. David it is. I saw that but I'm looking for short headers. Plus, I hardly ever buy anything new..... Yeah, I know, I'm a cheapskate...

[This message has been edited by 69 Sportsroof (edited 03-19-2003).]


Hedman calims to me (via E-mail) the the shorties WILL fit a 4 speed car.
I don't see how unless everything passes above the Z bar....

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